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Fed is Best!!!!!!

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HotDawg123 · 26/02/2017 20:58

If you choose to breast feed - good for you
If you choose to bottle feed - good for you
But if you choose to be a breast feeding warrior and look at those who choose to bottle feed as scum then I hope you slip in dog shit tomorrow.

The amount of horrible women I've come across who are like this is too many now. And as I am heavily pregnant and have hormone rage it is really pissing me off.

Thank you for listening.

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NannyOggsKnickers · 05/03/2017 10:53

Do you have any evidence skerry for you assertion that mixed feeding groups are crap at providing support for BF?

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 10:55

It's not really a feeding group it's a group for mums. I didn't say anything about teaching anyone anything did I? A group of peers to discuss problems, seek advice perhaps and chat, that'd be the purpose of the group. To support each other through experience

skerrywind · 05/03/2017 10:55

nanny- yes .

I have worked in breastfeeding support for 17 years, and been involved at personal, LA strategy and governmental level.

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 10:57

Skerry good for you you carry on whilst us normal unqualified mums seek advice and support from each other

skerrywind · 05/03/2017 10:57

A mixed feeding group is like having a support group for cyclists and petrol heads under a general "getting to work " theme.

Breastfeeding problems need breastfeeding solutions.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 05/03/2017 10:57

I've not read the thread but have been seeing this phrase more and more recently. this article pretty much sums up my thinking. RSorry if it's already been linked to

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:00

I don't see any support just throwing around figures and links to articles. Where's the practical advice? Wheres the support for mums who feel so alone?
I remember feeling alone, tired, scared and having this tiny little person to look after. If there was a nice welcoming group of people from all different backgrounds, ages and who fed differently I would have loved that.

skerrywind · 05/03/2017 11:03

Skerry good for you you carry on whilst us normal unqualified mums seek advice and support from each other

Yes, and promote a lot of misinformation. Your idea sounds poorly thought out.

Your LA is not legally able to rent out space for an infant feeding support group without insurance. A baby may become ill as a result of bad information.
You need insurance to run such a group.

You won't be able to get insurance without a qualified facilitator.

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:04

And it's not about bf solutions either. The reference you made is completely off kilter too and wrong. My fil actually has a group for speedway riders, this includes petrol and push bikes because in speedway both can be used. Same principle in both sports hence the reason it works.
I don't see why it can't work for feeding infants, principle is the same but different fuels.

NannyOggsKnickers · 05/03/2017 11:06

Amy it's not worth the effort of arguing. I did it earlier in the thread and got nowhere. Some posters don't want to accept that some women and babies are being failed quite badly by the current attitudes and methods around promoting BF. Apparently, it is their own problem if they develop PND because of failed BF and the responsibility of the NHS to pick up the pieces afterwards.
I'm actually done now. Stick your fingers in your ears and pretend their isn't an issue is the message. Don't challenge the system. Leave distressed women to sort themselves out. All to pretend that there is never a reason not to BF successfully. What crap.

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:07

I don't know what you took from my feeding corner idea. I'm not going to be telling people how to feed their child but meeting with mums to talk and feel less alone. Obviously in your professional role you are looking at just feeding solutions not other things.

Like a baby group. Sit, chat, drink tea and if needs be feed the baby. How can a baby become ill though mums meeting for a chat? Where's the misinformation going to be coming from if people meet who are mixed feeders?

skerrywind · 05/03/2017 11:08

It has been tried, I have attended such groups.I have spoken to HCPs who have facilitated such groups, I have discussed at length at NHS and LA meetings about the mechanics of such groups.

They are crap for supporting breastfeeding mothers.

Poor weight gain- give formula.

Sore nipples- give a bottle.

Unsettled baby- give a bottle.

But I bow to your superior knowledge amy.

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:08

Fingers firmly in my ears. It's people like this that drive bf mums away. Luckily I don't associate with anyone who has an agenda

skerrywind · 05/03/2017 11:12

amy - but how does your group differ from a baby group? How would you advertise?
How do you make sure women keep to the topic of feeding? What if they decide to discuss politics/recipes/working/yoga instead?

DianaMemorialJam · 05/03/2017 11:16

I have worked in breastfeeding support for 17 years, and been involved at personal, LA strategy and governmental level.

Christ. That's frightening that you have access to potentially vulnerable mums. Are they aware of your recent antics I.e promoting the breastfeeding agenda to women that have had breast cancer?

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:16

🤣🤣 superior take a look at your own posts. Then you can comment on who has the complex.

Good luck to all the new mums on the thread. I hope you all have happy pregnancies and a happy feeding experience which ever way you chose to feed your babies.

Joffmognum · 05/03/2017 11:20

Personally, I've found myself judging people who won't ever give it a shot. Not because I think they're will fully neglecting their child, but because I was very sceptical but tried it when DS was born and found it to be really nice (although it did hurt a bit at first), and how do you know you won't find it to be really nice too? If you tried and made an informed decision that it was too painful etc and thus wasn't worth it, or this is your second etc child and you tried it for your first, fair enough. There are so many benefits that not taking a few hours to give it a try just doesn't make sense to me.

AmyB1986 · 05/03/2017 11:21

I never said it would be purely about feeding, that is not the point of a support group.

The point was, all are welcome to discuss what ever their troubles are. It's just a name, feeding corner.

You have jumped the gun by implying something I never actually said. I said support for all, I didn't say support for feeding. I said mums who ff also encounter problems, not necessarily with feeding but other problems. Ff babies can still be unsettled, gassy etc.

My friend is on her way round to discuss things.

Not posting anymore about it. All I can say is there are no group here for mums. There is a wriggle readers baby group for half an hour once a month.

DianaMemorialJam · 05/03/2017 11:22

Joff judge away!

Joffmognum · 05/03/2017 11:26

I care less about what babies are being fed as long as they are getting lots of attention. Formula feeding on demand is more difficult than via a schedule, but I believe it's better for the baby. Cave babies didn't have 3-hourly restrictions! My 5mo drinks loads in the mornings and evenings and pretty much nothing all afternoon. He also goes through growth spurts where he'll be super hungry over two days and then gain half a pound. If I fed him on a schedule I know he'd be miserable. THAT'S when I find myself judging.

DianaMemorialJam · 05/03/2017 11:27

I've never formula fed on a schedule didn't even know that was a thing tbh.

Lunalovepud · 05/03/2017 11:32

I think the best thing all of us can do is just ignore skerry - giving her attention only seems to make her behaviour worse and she has demonstrated time and time again that she is only interested in showing us all how right she is.

I agree with Diana that it's scary how much access she has to vulnerable new mothers, although maybe her level of influence has something to do with the poor breastfeeding rates we have in the UK?

DianaMemorialJam · 05/03/2017 11:39

Luna she hasn't responded to comments about her recent bitch plopping either. Very curious.

neonrainbow · 05/03/2017 11:51

Funny how Amy's posts are much more useful and informative than skerrys.

TinselTwins · 05/03/2017 12:10

Alyosha no! just because I care about breastfeeding does not mean I don't care about any other child health/mortality issues - in what way are the two issues mutually exclusive? they're not! it's not either/or! Right now I am mostly being horrified by plans to separate women and children who cross from Mexico to America and trying to think of how I can help! I still care about breastfeeding TOO!

It's not really a feeding group it's a group for mums. - there's loads of them already, general polite chat and support/adult company groups. We allready have them in spades, they don't fill the same need as breastfeeding groups do.

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