Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi all

Sorry to hear so many are struggling and low. An understanding ear makes all the difference so I hope those that don't have the support they need find it through an alternative GP. I was on new tablets for about a week. (Avomine after Cyclizine didn't help) The first few days knocked me out completely. I felt like a complete zombie but no sickness, until I was. At that point I just felt totally bereft. I had my flu vaccine booked and ended up breaking down in the nurses office. Just exhausted really.

Now on new tablets again buccastem? Or something similar, basically tablets that dissolve into your gums instead of swallowing. Just since yesterday and so far I've had a bit of an improvement. I'm also on pretty vile tasting hydration drinks. Plus signed off from work which is a bigger relief than I even expected.

Hand hold/hair hold to all

Hi all. Sorry awol. Been sick again. Wish it would bloody stop. Only once in the evening but it's bad :(

Too knackered to name check and on phone so hello newbies and sorry to those feeling crap in early weeks. I improved at 14 then again 20 but have blips every few weeks and at 33w tom still have blips 😢

Would like to say hg goes away in tri 3 but in my case it isn't - tho isn't every day so grateful for that. Unlike the early weeks

Headaches make sure fluids in and if in tri 3 beware if pre eclampsia

Ahh blondes I had it all the way up to birth last time. I'm sorry for you

Blah - the strongest you can get in pill form is ondansetron. The next up from there is one off steroid shots at the hospital. I haven't had them and don't know much about them, but have read about it while researching HG. I'm on ondansetron 8mg, twice a day, and most days I lose everything between 4pm and bedtime (8pm), and then wake up early due to bad sleeping on empty stomach.

Midwife appt today. Not looking forward to it. Last pregnancy was implied I had an eating disorder by both midwife and ob. And midwife has been messaging me again along the same lines. Talking with hubby about seeking private treatment as I can't handle being told that I'm making myself sick. Especially when I'm well aware I'm allergic to high estrogen levels.

Had 12w scan yesterday. Everything in place and healthy.

That's really quite shocking melleebacca that accusation would send me over the edge!

I'd definitely look for alternative help, for your mental well being as much as anything

Magnum - it is actually the worst. My stepmum is coming with me today as advocate, hopefully she can tell my midwife that she's never met a better eater than non pregnant me. Spent yesterday drooling over pictures of apricots, that my body refuses to let me eat.

Thank you Melleebacca, that'really helpful info

Hi all, hope everyone is having an OK day. Hope its OK to come on here just to moan, been at work today and it seems to make me feel so much worse. Constant acidy gurgling stomach like I'm starving even if I've just eaten and making me feel so nauseous. No one irl understands it, none of my friends or family have had this so badly in pregnancy, I feel like they think I'm being a bit whiny and precious if I'm always moaning about how sick I feel but it's like it's all I can think about cos it's all I feel at the moment. I don't know if it's the cyclizine but seem to be suffering with a bit of insomnia and headaches which I'm sure is making the nausea worse.

Sprite Moan away. That's what this thread is there for

MEL poor you but yah scan is all good at 12w

Welcome to BlahBlahBlahetc. There are various meds you can try, as others say. If your GP is unaware of the options, do ring the Pregnancy Sickness Support number in my introductory post 024 7638 2020 and they will return your call with advice about meds from a retired doctor. He's helped many women on here obtain meds. It is very dismal. How are the liquids staying down? With that level of vomiting, you are quite likely to become dehydrated. Have you got kesostix which can check for ketones in the urine indication dehydration (in the early stages, anyway)?
In the meantime, do you find flat coke, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit, especially peaches, sips of chocloate milkshake (maybe soya), ice lollies or slices of melon any good? Or elderflower or soda water? Many swear by cheap ice cream.
Hollyhop It might be an idea for you to ring the number, too, because they might be able to think of a solution. Really sorry you are suffering so badly.
Melleebacca That is outrageous - I have only known that to happen to two other people - one I think because she was so young and overweight to begin with (not at the end) and another was accused by a dentist...I am tempted to advise you to complain if it happens again, but you know best.
Blondes Much sympathy.
MagnumAddict A lot of people on here have been really helped by buccastem. I'm so glad you have a sick note.
peaceloveandbiscuitsIt is so worrying about teeth - and advice from dentists seems to vary so much. Many say that normal rinsing of the mouth out with water after every vomit will minimise damage, but you do worry.

Mamabear Oh dear, poor LO and poor you!

sprite25 Never worry about moaning.There lots of safe anti acids to take,
the GP can prescribe one and as I recall, they are ranitidine and omprazole.
It might be worth asking if the cyclizne is linked to the headaches. I hope they aren't a sign of dehydration?
Mellebacca Forgot to add to my rantings about those unfair accusations, congratulations on a healthy scan.

We've come out for a rare child-free dinner on our own. I feel wretched on account of two really grim full vom episodes today, but on the plus side, I have made more room for dinner?

Peace - your optimism makes me smile. Hope you survive dinner.

Peace. I begrudge going out for dinner as usually lose it. Lost all 4 xmas meals out plus friends bday and df dd birthday the other week

Its df bday tom and out sat for a meal. I assume it will reappear :(
Saying all that have a lovely romantic night out x

Hi all!

Sorry for the last reply.

Castle I found ondansetron helped a lot with nausea. I found the nausea the worst part tbh.

I cut back on breast feeding as per the doctor's suggestion & quickly felt a lot better. Ironically, now I'm eating I have more milk. Going to try & up it again now I'm feeling better.

Had a bit of a week of it. Turns out I have liver damage from the HG. Joy. I also have to have a dexa scan as they think it's lowered my bone density. HG is just the worst!

Hope you're all having ok days.

Hi all, I'm 7+4 and sickness has been getting worse day by day. Constant nausea and throwing up at least twice a day, but mostly four or five times which is making work interesting! This is my fifth pregnancy (will hopefully be baby number four) and have never had sickness anywhere near as bad as this is. It is making me feel so down

Not had booking in appointment with midwife yet - should I wait to speak to her or go to the GP? I really struggle with taking tablets but cannot afford to be off work as I have my own consultancy and am paid a day rate (so if I don't work I don't earn anything) and need to save for maternity leave.

Thanks so much lucindae. I was keytones at 4+ when I was admitted 2 weeks ago, I've been ok until a few days ago and I just can't stop being sick again, even on water. I can't seem to manage coke, ice lollys etc but I'll definitely try the other things you mentioned. Thanks again.

Blah definitely try the tinned peach juice. One of the few things I could stomach.

Kep1979 the tablets are very small & some come as a dissolvable wafer. I was on medication before my booking with the midwife. I'd call your GP.

Oh I definitely will, I'm so thirsty I'll try anything. I only have pineapple so I'll walk to the co op tomorrow and get some. Just had some cheap ice cream and it's the first thing that's stayed down in 2 days. Love this thread, thank you.

Hi all,
Thought I'd pipe up here and share my experience of GPs and finding the best anti emetics. Firstly my GP was totally clueless as to how to treat Hyperemesis. I was having to research anti emetics myself and go in and ask for specific medications. He would write me the prescription and send me on my way.

My mum got in touch with the Pregnancy Sickness Support group and found the name of a local consultant who was "Hyperemesis friendly" (I was too ill to make telephone calls myself!). I cannot recommend this enough. I instantly changed hospitals to where this consultant was based (Mr Waterstone at Darent Valley Hospital in Kent).

The hospital where I had 4 hospital admissions for dehydration was even more disappointing than my experience with my GP. Not only was I waiting 3 hours vomiting in the A&E before they'd hook me up to an IV, each time, they put me on so many drugs, it was as if they didn't really know what to give me so they were giving me everything.

When I changed hospital, they took me off all of them except 10mg of Metoclopramide three times a day and 4mg of ondansatron three times a day. These are staggered so I'm taking one or the other every 4 hours. My new consultant also put me on a course of steroids, which meant I was able to get out of bed after 5 months bed ridden. I had previously been told by at least three hospital doctors that I wasn't sick enough to be on steroids!!! The vomiting has stopped since I started the steroids, but the nausea is still a daily battle despite the meds. I've had to accept that at nearly 29 weeks this battle is likely to continue the whole 40 weeks.

Blah tinned pears were a saviour for me - whatever appeals most to you, give it a go. Beware, though: mandarins not good on the way up.

I was sick just before we left the house so didn't fancy eating anything, but had about half my main, which was nice. Then mango sorbet which I wish I'd had more of when I was very very sick in the early days! It's still down, and going to sleep now, so a success!

Haha good tip thanks

Hello everyone, my first post here. I'm 13+2 first pregnancy. Not sure if I'm officially suffering HG but it's certainly severe NVP.

Week 8 was bad and I was off work. Saw a GP but wasn't given any meds. I did get better for a while, only being sick every couple of days (severe nausea in between though) but this past week I've gone bad again. Last thurs night threw up five times in space of a couple of hours completely out of the blue. Monday saw GP again as was struggling with fluids and sickness over weekend. I'm now on ciclizine 3 times a day but GP said to just take it for a few days. But now I'm confused and not sure why only a few days and what I'm meant to do next! Since Monday I was sick tonight for first time but I think I had guzzled too much orange juice to quench thirst.

Just want this to be over, this is not what I imagined pregnancy to be like!

HurryUp thanks for sharing your experience. It does go to show what a huge difference finding the right health care practitioners can make.

Kep I would definitely make a GP appointment ASAP. You don't want to wait for the midwife (and I don't think they can prescribe anyway). I would take the NICE Guidelines or RCOG Guidelines with you in case your GP is not inclined to be helpful (experience on here is mixed - I have only had great support but others more sick than me have not been so lucky).

Laura try not to worry too much about whether it is HG or not HG (although to be honest struggling with fluids and sick 5 times within a couple of hours does sound like HG) - all that really matters is whether you are coping. I assume your GP probably meant take it for a few days to see if it helps, and go back if it isn't helping (or isn't helping enough) - could that be it? Generally if you need anti-emetics most people will need them until at least 15-16 weeks I would think, and often longer. Did he give you enough to take for longer? If not I'd get an appointment and get more (if they are working) or something else (if they aren't).

Mellee I am horrified by professionals suggesting an eating disorder when it's clearly outside their expertise and they have no evidence at all!! Why even go there when there is a perfectly obvious explanation of HG?? If I were you I would want to ring up the local head of midwives and ask to switch to a different midwife (and tell her the reason) - I'm sure they will be able to find you somebody better - no reason why you should have to pay for private care because your MW is being unprofessional? I really hope yesterday's appointment went better, but even if she didn't raise it again I'd be tempted to ask to change based on the last meeting and the messages. This clearly wasn't a one off mistake that she regretted.