Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Heartburn - I find ondansetron does nothing for the nausea and just makes its quite painful to vomit. So in the long run it helps as it keeps food and water in, although I feel like crap. I'm also on Laxol for the constipation.
In regards to the depression, I'm pretty much treating this pregnancy as a prolonged sickness, and being in a relatively strong state of denial. DD helps to distract, but I cry because I can't do the things she wants me to, like carry her when she's sad. I've had to change the way I interact with her from day one essentially.

2drifters. Take as early as possibly !!! Wish I had taken at 4w but didn't till 7/8 as thought was normal ms not hg as never been preg before

Thank you for adding me to the list of dates Lucinda!

Melleebacca
That's exactly how it is for me with the vomiting being less but still there and no change to constant nausea. It seems harder work to actually vomit now, which also results in me regularly wetting myself with the force of retching. Another delight I experienced last time.
That's a really good way of putting how you are treating your pregnancy and is how I feel too. I feel guilty already about my DD, she was rubbing my leg when I was puking in the street the other day and looked all worried.
I feel worried that I don't want to ever feel in that dark place I did before and the sickness really does make it difficult to cope doesn't it.
Hope you and everyone else are managing this evening.

Heartburn - oh you poor thing! My maternity mental health counselor says my drug of choice is food, which makes the sickness worse for me. I miss eating and cooking and all that. Made pancakes with DD on the kitchen floor this week (FYI pancakes stay down).
It's hard with a toddler, but they learn so fast. DD hears me retch and brings me my bucket and bottle of water. The way ondansetron works is it closes the stomach valve, hence the pain of trying to vomit. If I'm really bad, I can normally skull a glass of water and that helps me vomit and get some sort of relief.

Just keep doing whatever gets you through the day.

I've gotta go get myself prepped and primed for a wedding, in an old school, so there will be nowhere for me to lie down.

Thanks Mellee and Blondes and sorry to hear you're suffering too Heartburn

I am dreading this and totally in fear of what it will do to my close bond with my toddler especially as I'm still breastfeeding but can't imagine being able to do that whilst feeling constantly nauseous and vomiting

I suppose I should wait until I'm actually pregnant to truly panic. Those of you doing this for a second time, I'm in awe of you all

Bless your daughters heartburn and mell

I have my step sons dog looking after me if he is here. He just stays outside bathroom door or nudges way in ans head on my feet

As said previously no way would I do no 2 even if could get preg naturally And younger

Bubs is it !!!

Violently sick last night - even at 37.3 tho it's more weekly now just some things I can't hack

Had curry mon. All fine. Had curry last night And every single sodding grain of rice came Up as well as poppadom and nam bread

Was up at 4am eating melon as tested wee as soooooooo dark
And 2.5 so knew needed fluids in me asap

Oh blondes you poor thing. I haven't eaten curry since the sickness started as I can't imagine anything worse than bringing it back up!!

Had some peach squash last night and it stayed down and maybe even soothed my tummy a bit

Think I started to get cocky as getting less sick

I love curry as does bubs - but always regret eating it 😢

Melon and ice lollies are nice to get liquid in

I only drank water as anything else made me ill. Tho last few weeks been on lemonade which is nice and bubbles makes bubs kick which is also nice

Blondes Oh no, curry and rice. Horrible. I hope those pesky ketones have gone down?
How is everyone today?

I can't remember if I said this before but last time for weeks the only thing I could stomach drinking - even sips of water made me vomit - was Crodino. It's an Italian non-alcoholic aperitif, violent orange in colour and tastes a bit like Aperol, very bitter and tangy. You can find it in Italian delis in London or order a case for an exorbitant price on Amazon. Just in case anyone is desperate to find something they can keep down!

Hello all. After a hellish few days today I am feeling slightly better and managing to keep some water and weak squash down. lucinda thank you so much for all the information in your post. It was so helpful and flat Coke saved me the other day when I couldn't get out of bed, a few sips helped me so much. I had heard about the keto sticks but didn't know you could buy them yourself so am going to get some today. And thank you for adding me to the stats.

Sorry that so many are suffering. Until you go through it I don't think you realise how debilitating this is. Again I am so glad I have found this thread, even though I wish none of us were on here it helps so much knowing I'm not alone.

TwoDrifters I never heard of that, that's intriguing. I'll have to add that one to my list.
littlepooch I am so glad the flat coke helped. It may be the sugar. A pleasure to give advice - though it can be difficult, as what one person can stomach another can't stand - and it can vary from day to day. I remembered recently that at one time I was drinking Dr Pepper, and recommended it to someone on here who had found none of her regular drinks worked any more. A rule of thumb unfortunately seems to be that the more unhealthy it is, the more acceptable it is likely to be.

Hi everyone. I'm having a really bad day today. I managed to get into work for a couple of hours yesterday but it seems to be taking its toll today. Can't really get out of bed although I'm managing to keep enough liquid down so at least that's ok. I have so long to go......

Yes they are ok now. Back to 1 and feel fine

I've learnt if really sick aka exorcist style then to get fluids in quickly then go back to bed and sleep

Shame I haven't learnt to avoid rice 🙄

Swollen feet in Bucket of ice cold water which is lovely and relieving f pain

Hello LucindaE - my hyperemesis baby is now a handsome 3yo. I shared a Guardian article on my Facebook the other day, and a couple of friends shared their horrid HG experiences too. One would like to try for a 2nd baby but is too scared, so I mentioned this thread as it was such a MASSIVE help to me 4 years ago. It's given her hope.

Just wanted to say, I've never forgotten all the wonderful support I got on here from you and other sufferers, and I think what you do is amazing! How long has this thread been running now? I hope you realise how special you are

P.s I've name changed various times over the years so you won't recognise me.

Hey all, poking my head in here. Posted this elsewhere but think you ladies may be pretty helpful. Am 7 weeks pregnant with DC2. My previous pregnancy was plagued by sickness and utterly miserable. This time I've promised myself that I'll treat it and try to stay on top of it, for my sake and that of my 2yo DS.

When I saw the GP for my hospital referral he prescribed me metoclopramide straight away, so I could take it at the first sign and get on top of it right away. I started feeling very very unwell last week but took the tablets 3x a day and was able to function.

Yesterday I had another GP appointment where he expressed concerns about me being on this medication and switched me to phenergan. 24 hrs later and I feel horrific, and have barely moved all day. I'm dopey, exhausted and incredibly nauseous. Clearly these meds aren't as effective for me.

I'm going to try and see the GP again tomorrow but do you think they'll allow me to go back on the meds that actually work? I'm utterly miserable on the current ones.

mrsgembles the leaflet for metoclopramide now says you shouldn't take for more than two weeks, so I wonder if that is why? It seems to be new advice and is because of side effects for the mother, not the baby. But I took it for months with no side effects. I wonder if the PSS helpline could advise?

TwoDrifters it is hard to willingly put yourself through this again but I am convinced that earlier and better meds helped me a lot. If you Google the RCOG green top guide to nausea and vomiting in pregnancy that has some good evidence for preemptive meds if your GP is resistant /unsure.

Although it's hard with a toddler, my DD doesn't seem to have been too upset by it (though my OH has been amazing at stepping up and doing all the bedtimes, all the cooking, most of the laundry etc). Having your DH around is also a brilliant reminder of the prize at the end of the road! And you will have the advantage of being able to agitate for meds before you get so sick that it's hard to do physically.

Hope everybody is doing OK. Cheering blondes on the final slog over the drawbridge!

Here is the PSS info. So EU guidance seems to be 5 days. But in the US they say you can use for up to 12 weeks, and the side effects seem to be mainly in very young women/teenagers and seem to usually appear very quickly (so you probably would have had them by now). So hopefully your GP can be flexible if it is effective for you and you had no side effects so far...
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/treatments/metoclopramide/

Mrsgembles - I was prescribed metachlorpromide in my last HG pregnancy, but found I could throw it up very easily, and was getting feet twitches from it. It's a really common one to be prescribed, and is what they give me as IV anti emetics while in labour. Hopefully your doctor sees that it's helping and let's you take it.

TwoDrifters - I went through the same mental battle with deciding to have number 2. I didn't really get too much say in the matter as managed to get pregnant unexpectedantly on the first try (!?!), so that has led to the mental struggle occurring while sick.

Blondes - you're so close! Glad the ice bucket is helping your feet. My dog also lies in the bathroom with me when sick, it gets quite crowded with him, DD and me.

Survived the wedding for an hour and a half. Didn't puke. Hit cousin in head twice with the umbrella while trying not to pass out. Ended up on the floor twice due to blood pressure and venue having no seats. Managed to drive home in torrential rain ok and went straight to bed with DD. Awful night sleep though, but keeping the week clear of all activities to recuperate.

Good morning all,

Just checking in to say hi. On my way to work but major signal failure means my train has been taken out of service and we have all been chucked out at a random station with no alternative lines... oh joy.

My daughters tests have so far not found the source of her problem. We are expecting a brain scan next.

Mellee No seating at all? I can't imagine even braving it. So well done for going!

Hi to everyone else. Hope you are all doing ok. Xxx

Thanks for the advice ladies, GP at 10.30. Feel utterly grim today and keep having mad fantasies about abortions and how much better everyone would feel. Then feel utterly wretched for having such fantasies.

Morning all,
Thank you all for advice regarding Ondansetron and the side effects. I have been suffering with constipation but found Fybogel works brilliantly.
I'm currently on a mission to get a new prescription - when I took it to the pharmacy they didn't have enough tablets so part prescribed, they called me on Sat to say they have the rest so in I went yesterday only for them to say they've lost my prescription so can't give me them!
I can't run out!!!!!!

Mellee Well done for surviving that wedding, that sounds awful, no where to sit?!

MrsGrembles - I took Metoclopramide for 8 months 3 years and was shocked at the change in advice when I went to docs this time (I'm 7 weeks too). I had no problem with them at all and took them along with Cyclizine the whole time. They didn't do a lot of I'm honest but did keep my vomiting at a level where I was only admitted a few times, I suspect it would've been worse without those meds. Let us know how you get on today. It's awful, I feel for you.

8 months 3 years ago! That would've been an unbearable time to endure!!

Hi all

Been a bit quiet of late. To be honest I had such a low couple of weeks I felt like I couldn't contribute anything positive- not that it's a requirement!

This will be my 6th week off work. They have been understanding and my dr great but I am so fed up. Can't even bear the TV. My sickness is reducing but the tiredness/exhaustion seems never ending.

I was quite delighted to see I'm no longer the last person due though!!