Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hops - thanks for your support! Sounds like you have HG to me. Im glad that I can see mental health without getting meds. I'm mostly hoping for coping mechanisms when I get super down.

Good luck with your routines, I hope your babies are amenable.
Having another "why am I doing this to myself again" day. Not only HG but I was extremely mentally unwell last time for around 18 months. Officially too late to do anything about it now. I've gone from sticking head in the sand to blind panic. Possibly why I've been so sick again this week. I guess I'm bitter that I don't have the happy blinkers this time around. I'm going to flounce off for a bit. Hope everyone has good weeks with minimal voms.

@peace please go and talk to your gp or mw how you are feeling you are having a rough time but will ease soon 💐

I don't have any one, my mum's hours away and oh family are really busy with their own kids and most don't live nearby. I'm so sorry to any one who has this too

Blah agree with maternity mental health (and peace) or gp or mw

There is help out there for you but as hard as it is you have to make the first step

Or finances depending could you think about a temp nanny a few hours a day?

I think it's inevitable to have mental health repercussions from HG (or even severe NVP) even without it being triggered necessarily by any kind of chemical imbalance but just from circumstances.

peace just seconding the suggestion to go to a GP re your concerns for post-birth. A few friends in my Mumsnet group from when DD are born had PND and although not all of those who went on to have second children had PND again, those that did found having things already set up with the GP and MW/HVs was really helpful.

I didn't have as bad sickness as most of the people here, but my few relatively "good" hours each day were spent at work so I felt (like it sounds peace & hops & mellee do) like an absolutely crap mum through most of this pregnancy (compounded by the fact I had a MMC with bad sickness before, so I really felt I spent the whole of 2016 throwing up which was not far from the reality). It's the kind of thing that you can only bear at all because you know there is an end at some point - but even that doesn't make it easy to bear, just possible. All I can say is that now I am feeling a bit better and able to do a bit more with my DD she doesn't seem to resent it or have any long term consequences that I can see. Hopefully in a couple of years time she won't even remember that Mummy was sick.

Thanks for the advice. I'll get in contact with the right people tomorrow

Sorry I missed you out Blah! Hope you can find the right people to help. So many people going through a similar thing here. Hopefully that means all the systems will be in place to help without having to fight too hard (the last thing you have energy for in this situation is fighting bureaucracy!!)

Hi all, hope everyone is having a bearable day/evening. I've felt better today and stupidly have eaten stuff I know I should of avoided (muffins,chocolate) and I'm now paying for it. Like a lot have said, I have mum guilt pretty much everyday when DD wants me to play but I just want to curl up on the sofa and not move. Have also had horrible headache the past couple of days which I don't know if it's caused by the cyclizine but it's made me want to sleep even more

BlahBlahBlahEtc I am so sorry you feel so desperate. Things will get better. You've had great advice. Coping with this is bad enough, and really tough with an LO. As others say, everyone on this thread understands how hard it is. Also, the Pregnancy Sickness Support network does have a volunteer one to one counselling service that might be helpful on my inevitable number 024 7638 2020.
peaceloveandbiscuits I don't know if the number might help you with counseling?
Blondes Great support and advice about sleep training. I think my baby sensed she could manipulate me, and this is typical. I believe cats are the same .
hopsalong Never fear, you will get your old self back. Your LO won't remember any of this period of comparative neglect and will have a sibling, and you have every reason to be fed up.
LightTripper MamaErmintrude Melleebaca and others, how are things? Great advice from you, too.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Back soon.

Hi all, sorry I've been absent. Ive missed loads. Hope everyone ok.
HG been bad lately but mega stressed. I've been made redundant from work and get my leaving date tomorrow.
Doc told me to reduce tablets. I take 10mg metichlopromide and 150g cyclizine each day. He said to reduce met first. Stopped Saturday but had to take it again today. Anyone experienced coming off it? What are thoughts on taking very other day, then every 2 days then every 3 days?
Sorry to have neglected and then asked a question. Really hope all well x

South - why are you reducing meds if HG is still bad? I think your plan for reducing is good, but please don't do it until you're well enough. My midwife has already told me to prepare to be on ondansetron until the pink castle.

Got a last minute dietician appt today. Didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, but got a prescription for Fortisip and a strong warning that baby needs me to gain weight now I'm in the second trimester, because it's totally up to me! 😂

Hope everyone is coping well. Happy Valentines Day 💚💛💜❤💙

Been a manic afternoon. Leg swelled up so been in triage since 330.

They aren't sure if dvt or swelling but calf is big so putting me in v high dose of Fragmin to try and counteract clot if it is one

Ultrascan will show either way. Hopefully get one wed

Due to history of dvt and one of the reasons I am red flagged - they are wary

Sorry to heat that Blondes. Hope you get your scan soon. Sorry to everyone else, dealing with mental health issues on top of/caused by HG is so difficult. I hope you all get the help you need and deserve.

I am feeling really down again. I wasnt sick for 5 days and was nausea free for most of those days as well. I really, really thought it was over. Today, I woke up feeling nauseous immediately and then was sick again this afternoon. Has this happened to others? It seems to cruel to suck me back in when I thought it was finally over. I was planning on going back to work and now I'm not sure. I will be 18 weeks on Wednesday and am so fearful this will last the entire pregnancy...

Sorry if this is really self indulgent, I know there are plenty on here far worse than me. Hugs to all.

Sadly so @holly. I keep having blips. Think it's all good then sick for a few days Hopefully will pass soon for you x

Sadly so @holly. I keep having blips. Think it's all good then sick for a few days Hopefully will pass soon for you x

Firstly thanks to everyone who replied RE prochloperazine - my GP triggered the concern whilst prescribing and I then read up. I've read results of cleft palate and heart defects were equal to those not on the medication which put my mind at rest. Think they don't know how to manage this and are fed up. I've since had 2 awful days and begged for ondansetron from a different doc at my surgery, was also told it may be dangerous and the decision was on me. Doc has prescribed it "as required"!? Don't have a clue what dose it should be!
Came out of docs in tears, he said my high ketones and dehydration were my fault for not sipping. My DH and mum both watched me sip and throw up all day.

How did it go, blondes?

Holly, this weekend was fine after hospitalisation again last Friday and then yesterday and this morning already have been horrendous. Due to obvious high ketone level the doc ignored, looks like I'll have to get some fluids.

Forgot to say Holly, hugs to you My last post sounded so self involved, I, too, am getting frustrated all round. Apparently, at 20 weeks HG can ease off, it may help to keep that in mind?

Thanks to every one that replied to me yesterday, I was having a really bad day. I feel a lot more positive today and I've actually managed a shower and getting dressed. I hope every one is as well as can be. Thanks again

Meowstro that sounds awful - it makes me angry and sad that so many GPs are still underinformed and unsupportive. Do you actually have a prescription? If so can you ask your pharmacist for advice on the actual dose (or the PSS helpline at the top of this thread should be able to advise)? Sounds like you may be back to hospital anyway, in which case they will be able to provide good advice I'm sure: did they not prescribe Ondansetron when you were in on Friday/did they discuss it with you at all? And please don't worry about sounding self involved. You don't at all - it is just called self-preservation and it has to be a top priority in these circumstances!!

Sorry to hear you've had a turn for the worse Holly. Fingers crossed this is just a blip. I did find that when mine started to get better (earlier this time, more like 15-16 weeks) I definitely had better and worse days and was quite volatile until 20 weeksish. Hopefully the fact that you have had some completely nausea free days is a good sign.

South I also came off metoclopramide before cyclizine. I had a few attempts. Started to try to come off around 15-16 I think, but felt much worse, so tried again to reduce my dose once a week after that (just reducing by 1 pill a day) - I think it was on about my third attempt that I decided I felt OK enough to reduce the dose permanently, and then I probably dropped another pill a week until I was off them altogether somewhere around 20. It's definitely a gradual process, don't rush it, and if you immediately get sick again it's probably a sign you need to take them (or something else) for a bit longer. How many weeks are you now?

Hope everybody is doing OK. I am officially "on holiday" this week, but have been coming into the office to do my final bits of admin. Still, nice to be able to swan in late and leave early. Just hope baby stays put for a week or so or else we will not be very organised at home! Never thought I would be wishing this pregnancy to last a day longer (and if you ask me in the evening I'd probably still say the opposite).

Great to hear blah, apparently PSS have peer to peer support, especially for bad days as well -just in case you ever need it in future. I think I will be looking into it myself so I will let you know how it goes.

Thanks for the messages. Depressing to hear that it happens to everyone. Had I known about this pre getting pregnant I honestly think I would have looked into adoption. I have basically hated every minute...

Glad you're feeling better Blah. I am a bit concerned I haven't had any perinatal care yet (I suffer from a mental health condition). Together with HG I just feel very unable to cope on some days. Got an appt with my midwife next week, so will try to chase that up.

Meowsto I hope you get a better GP. There are 5 at my surgery and only one is at all bothered by HG. The last one I saw told me off for crying saying 'I was only making it worse'. The understanding of how horrific this is, is so depressingly low.

Hope everyone is having a good day.

@meow. It so sad that some gp's are supportive and clued up or happy to listen when I said I had researched

And others aren't :(

There do seem to be bleeps /hormone surgers that make you have a few terrible days the sickness stops again 💐💐💐

Glad you are feeling a bit better holly and blah - hope that's the right names. On phone and can't name check easily

Been booked in for emergency ultra sound scan to check for clots - still waiting but have book phone and free wifi :)

Blondes My goodness, how awful and dramatic. I hope all is well with the scan on your leg. No doubt, as you say, they are being extra careful.
Glad that BlahBlahBlahEtc feels less desperate.
Just in case anyone missed this among my usual waffle: 'The Pregnancy Sickness Support network does have a volunteer one to one counselling service that might be helpful on my inevitable number 024 7638 2020.'
Great advice from LightTripper Meowstro and everyone....