Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

mellee I've had irrational urges to practically stab friends who are sailing through pregnancies... It feels so unfair doesn't it!

Holly I'm glad you made it on here I got so, so, so down in the first trimester. We've no family close by and I was so isolated. I do know what you mean about feeling relief there IS something wrong with you. Even though I'd been diagnosed, I was convinced I was being a wuss even as I was being ambulanced to hospital with emergency drip, oxygen mask etc (!) It felt like such a relief to know this wasn't normal and I wasn't somehow less able to cope with others. Re drugs, are you mixing and matching? At one point I was taking 3 anti emetics and an anti acid all at the same time and it was only the combination of them all which helped.

100% agree with everyone who said the constant nausea is the worst, and that it sucks your soul/leaves you feeling like a shell of a person...

I'm sorry I can't remember who asked, but no I never came off the drugs - though I did successfully reduce so now I'm only on 1 type! I'm at 33 now and you're automatically switched to maternity leave at 36. In all honesty I think I mostly just feel like i don't care anymore!! I love my job, but all I can think of now is getting this over with. I hate, hate, hate being pregnant and have found this really hard. I've started hoping she'll be premature not so much that she's in danger, but they seem to stand a pretty good chance of being OK from 34 weeks onwards and that would mean only 1 more week to get through!! Knowing my luck she'll go to 42...

PS I'm B+ and not Rh-!

Evening all. Thank you for all of the lovely comments about my commute. Hopefully I'll have a smoother week this week.
Generally I have had quite a good weekend, feeling very sick, but no actual vomiting and I have even eaten real food with veg in and everything!
Very tired though, wishing I could find some energy from somewhere. I'm 22 weeks now, so limping my way across the half way mark.

I'm RH positive, sorry to ruin a good theory!

Haich Glad to hear you have a break planned, what a lovely thing to look forward to.

Holly Welcome, and sorry to hear you have been struggling. Never apologise for complaining, we have all done it. Advice from everyone has been spot on as usual.

Mellee how are you feeling today?

Waving to everyone, and praying for good weeks. Xx

I'm AB-. Interesting to think we may be over represented in HG although I'm struggling to think how that could cause nausea.

As always I hope everyone feels better.

This is my second pregnancy. Last time my sickness wasn't as bad but I did lose weight up to about 24 weeks and never gain it back because of nausea/lack of appetite. I mean, I gained it back and more after having the baby. I had always remembered loving being pregnant but now I think that was mainly because my third trimester which wasn't too bad. If you ask me now I'd say pregnancy is awful and I can't imagine getting through 7 more months of this. My poor dh is working so hard and even our ds knows that I'm poorly and I can't always do everything I normally would for him.

Is anyone else sleeping a lot? I'm not even that sleepy now that I'm off cyclizine. It's just too hard to do anything that's not essential and the nausea only really goes away when I'm asleep. It's all getting really boring and I'm sick of it.

Hello everybody, just taking the chance to check in with my fellow duvet and bucket huggers! Holly hello and it does sound like you've got a bad case. I know what you mean about relentless nausea- long term trapped in those few mins before you want to throw up is not fun. Hang in there. The prize is worth it. mellee yes closely followed by the sheer joy of realising you can polish off a choc bar, or in fact, many many chocolate bars!!! Happy days. Looking forward to liking coffee again too. When I am not pregnant I do not want to go near a tinned peach though- bad memories!!
Well 2nd time round it is better for me. I can get to work most days and even look like I'm doing actual work most of the time, I think. Keeping a lot more food down. But the nausea and fatigue is a killer. No more after this. (She says firmly)
I'm o positive if that's helpful, don't think that's very rare though. No history of this in my family, I seem to have started a trend.
My mum came up today and cleared our fridge of horrifying out of date food, fed my dd dinner to save me doing it while holding my nose and helped me put away a rack of laundry that had been sitting there for about 3 weeks. I love her
Waves to you all xxx

Oh Mama - I know what you mean. I was lucky DD came on her due date, but the thought of going overdue with this one is terrifying. When I'm in the peak sickness, I also think how wonderful a quick and easy planned c section would be.

Daffodil - I don't think I touched crackers at all between pregnancies. Was so put off by them after consuming them for so long. And I went through chocolate bars like there was no tomorrow, until DD started realizing that I was eating something yum and not sharing.

Cookie - if I nap during the day, it's for 15-20mins and I wake up with a racing heart and horrendous nausea. At night, I fall asleep early and wake really early, but the nausea comes on a bit slower.

Shirley - coping today, but normally vomit up all of dinner, so will have head in toilet all evening. My mummy visited and took me to get my bloods done. Got a feeling I will be anemic again and really don't want to take iron pills until I can keep them down.

At my dating scan they found a large cyst on one of my ovaries, which is giving me a bit of pain. And my back is in agony from all the dry heaving. Ondansetron does a great job making it hard to vomit, but sometimes I wish it didn't make it so physically painful.

I'm A -

Morning all, I'm caught up but can't remember who said what.

Firstly im positive blood, my friend and I had a theory that sickness is because you have a girl .... then when you have had it once you have it in all pregnancies.

I felt horrid on Friday and then last night we didn't get back from my parents until 9pm and I was so tired and started to feel sick but all ok. Even managed to leave the house earlier this morning. Only got to the train station in pouring rain and my train cancelled. So I'm just sitting here in the cold reading our thread. Hoping a train in 10 mins (been here 15 already). Man next to me wanted to talk about how rubbish southern are but I didn't engage as literally don't care anymore. It's amazing how cyclizine dulls the mind hahaha.

Second thing I need to remember, sick bucket is orange too! I can't recommend enough, £1 from B&Q, and huge enough to catch all sick!!

Third! (Sorry I sound strange but have some weird drug fog induced amnesia these days) I had promethzine at the beginning and it is used as a sleeping aid. So if you are on it. You need to just go to bed. I went from that to cyclizine and cyclizine to cyclizine with other stuff, I know metrochlopromide didn't suit you so don't know a good solution. It took a week for it to settle for me so have you tried that long. Or onandestron if you can cope with constipation and possible headaches.

I am 20 weeks tomorrow!!!!! I don't want to tempt fate as had some BIG wobbles very recently, however feeling significantly better to the early days. I like the 4 week theory that improves every 4 weeks but seen someone else say 24 weeks is a hormone surge.
So my SMP isn't affected I can't have sick leave all of January and February. I have 4 days leave until 1st April. The tablets make me so tired I want to come off them but I really don't want sickness. Debating if to try and reduce now or in March. March seems more sensible but I will need more appointments and prescriptions .. so time off work.

Anyway, I've typed so long I'm on my train! Big hugs to 1st and early 2nd tri sufferers!! I totally agreed with what someone said about it being almost a surprise when your tummy grows as you just feel seriously unwell before and then this bump pops out!!!! Pregnancy feels very secondary when suffering HG.

Last thing I've remembered - Tesco Apple squash saved me!!!!! I still cannot drink plain water. Give that a try. I've bought every squash there is. Also ribena really helped me to give a burst of energy xxxx

Morning all, hope you managed to at least get a good nights sleep. I love being asleep as ita the only point during the day I dont feel sick! It seems like cyclizine really helps most of you? I was started on that but after a week or so I found no improvement. Did I give up too soon? I found that promethazine was at least taking the edge off, but for the past 3/4 days it has stopped making any sort of difference really

I have got a short cervix so got an appointment later in the week which I am half looking forward to and half dreading. I barely leave the house, so its nice to get out, but almost as soon as I am I feel worse and SO exhausted. Does this happen to anyone else?

Big waves and hugs to all struggling into work, looking after other DC or like me just feeling supremely sorry for themselves...

Must rush off to Welsh, but goodness, I do so sympathise with those who just want it to be over. Welcome back to SouthLondon very brave of you to battle in with such train delays and convalescent - glad you're a bit better. MamaErmintrude You thought you were malingering even a you were rushed to emergency?
It was the same with another women on one of these threads years back - MelangeaTrois she was bringing up brown blood (they refused meds until then). Much sympathy to all those who are suffering and fed up.
Pip I do feel for you over week nine - I think there must be a hormonal surge then.
There seems to be a mix of blood types on here, then - as below, I'm
O positive. As that is the hoi polloi of blood types, it is intriguing that there seem to be so few of represented on here.

Back soon.

Can't believe I am at the top of the due dates list now! A bit scary as I have quite a lot to get done before then, but I am so relieved the end is in sight.

I only have a washing up bowl to throw up in (well, 2: one blue, one green). Feel like I am doing it all wrong...

All fine here. Nausea still fine - just backgroundy. Have started to occasionally retch in the mornings again, but I don't think I'm feeling any worse so I'm hoping this isn't the worsening at the end that I know some people get. Anyway, seems pretty clear that I will not be back in vomit-country so that's good (although I totally agree that - at my level at least - the nausea was the worst thing - even never vomiting wouldn't have added that much to my quality of life if the overwhelming 24/7 nausea was still there).

Oh, and I think I am O+ too, but interested in all the theories on who gets it and why. The research seems completely at a loss on that!

Sending love particularly to those in the "horror zone" of 6/8-14/16 weeks. For most of us it really does get a bit better after that (and hopefully better again after week 20). Hang on in there. It's a horrible horrible slog and often feels like you just can't go through another day, but I totally agree with the lady who said the euphoria of not being pregnant any more helps sooo much with the newborn stage!

due 1st aug (12wks), B+ blood & been on pill for years then POP mini pill last 2 years. don't know if any of that is contributing to HG as wasn't sick at all with DC but was hideously greasy skin/spotty, dry/scaly this time. think i have a uti/cystitis due to lack of fluids catching up with me, have drank a pint of weak tropical dilute juice over last 3hrs to try ease symptoms & cbeebies been on for toddler as i can't really function yet. hoping for a quiet easy day with toddler & they go for a nap so i can nap too.
hope you's are all coping today xo

Hallo!
Jaffa- I thought The exact same, that I had a uti but the doc said that I couldn't possibly have it as too dehydrated to have anything infected. Xxx

Oooo south we are bucket twins! Mines the bright oranage B&Q basics one too. It's been a good friend.

I am way too excited to discover we have that common!! Lol.

I'm also 22 weeks- so we aren't far apart in due dates.

Commute into London was ok for me today, and I have managed an early escape due to a training day finishing early. Not too bad for blue Monday. Xx

Hollyhop Cross posted this morning. Cyclizine helps some sufferers more than others, it seems; some find it really helpful when combined with another med,but it does make people sleepy. I think miserable exhaustion is more or less general - how some totter in to work I will never know, let alone do long commutes with unmentionable fellow passengers, like IAmSerious.
LightTripper Such nice, positive advice as ever. You are indeed, next in line for the Pink Castle, along with MamaErmintrude.
SouthLondon I never knew that about uti''s being impossible if dehydrated, I'd always thought it made you vulnerable to them; or is that maybe the case with mild dehydration?
whoate I have added you to the list. Sorry about bladder discomfort.
On bowls, that orange bucket sounds like a fine bargain! I had a horrid bowl which was colourless and had belonged to a food processor.Small and handy to carry about the house. Lol about LightTripper having the choice of a green or blue washing up bowl. Green seems most appropriate. Someone on here mentioned, 'Brian the bowl and Tilly the toilet'...
Watch me cross post with someone.
Due Dates
LightTripper 3 March
Mama Ermintrude 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley 20 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June
HollyHop17 20 July
whoate 1 August
SociallyAcceptableCookie 5 August
JimmyJay Early August
HaichM Early August
Pip1982 20 August.
Melleebacca 22 August

Due Dates
LightTripper 3 March
Mama Ermintrude 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley 20 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June
HollyHop17 20 July
whoateallthejaffacakes 1 August
SociallyAcceptableCookie 5 August
JimmyJay Early August
HaichM Early August
Pip1982 20 August.
Melleebacca 22 August

Sorry about double due dates list! Got carried away with cut and paste!

Shirley inlove we have the same bucket too. Are you north London? If south we could be in the labour ward together!!!

Lucinda - I didn't know it either. I don't see why you can't get an infection even if empty?!? Surely that would have got worse if got more unwell. Like you say maybe mild dehydration as I wasn't hospitalised but doc said when I went to see her.

I'm looking at breaks away before baby, does anyone know anywhere that has a posh bath I can lie in for ages commutable from London for 3 nights?

South I work in north London, but commute from Buckinghamshire. Even more randomly than that my antenatal care is in Oxford due to a heart condition that I have. But in London lots.

Loads of lovely apartments for a mini break in Bath which is easy on the train (2hours) from Paddington... they also have he thermal spa which is nice.

Re:UTIs you can definitely get them when v dehydrated. One of the best ways to cheat one naturally is to 'flood' the system and flush it out in fact. Xx

Shirley sounds like you donlota of travelling! I've been to the therme spa twice since it opened and enjoyed it. They have warm swimming pools which I don't think would be as hot as a hot tub so good for pregnant women.

Good to know about uti. When I was dehydrated i was getting pains and my sis in law said uti so thays why I mentioned it to the doc.

Tummy feeling massive today. 20 weeks in the morning but scan a week on Friday. I really don't want to wait that long!!!!!

light I've also only got a washing up bowl and now I feel seriously left out! And also stupid, as I imagine a bucket is a lot more effective at preventing "splash back" (sorry everyone). Kudos to everyone with orange buckets - maybe when you join this thread you should get issued one to join the club

Socially I could sleep all the time. I honestly do think some of it is psychological for me, as you say just because then your body is getting some relief from the nausea etc.

Mellee I'm so glad someone else feels the same and that it doesn't make me a terrible mother before I've even started!!

South can I ask what you mean about sick leave and SMP? I didn't realise one could affect the other I would recommend Winchester as a lovely short break near to London. Depending on whether or not you can eat (!) The Gurkha Inn had the best curries me and DH have ever had. Maybe have it with naan rather than the dreaded rice though and congrats on making it to the halfway point! It's such a psychologically significant moment to know you're over the hump isn't it...

Serious hurray for getting away early and a good commute!

Lucinda I know... it was only when they told me my blood pressure was 75/40 that I realised I didn't need to worry I was making a fuss...!!

Hope everyone has a good day, whatever that currently looks like for you

9w sucks 🤢🤢🤢🚽 (no bucket emoji 😞)

Ooo South, you'll have to let us know how you get on with the scan- I love a scan!

Mama I love the idea of a standard issue HG bucket. Each one could come with a unique name and care instructions. Perhaps with a survival kit inside with things like tinned fruit, cuppa soups, sick bags, ketostix.....

Mellee 9w really is the worst. You have my sympathy. Try and keep in mind it will get better than it is now.

I'm off work today for a cardiology appointment. So dropped of my little girl at nursery which was nice. Normally I leave for work too early to see her in the morning. She was really happy to see me which made me smile.

I hope everyone has good days. Xx

Four. I'm A positive

I've known people with 2g and another with 2b and both v sick/hg so don't think it's a girl thing

Shirley. Hope commute better now

Pip. It's still early days and you will feel crap. 14w saw an improvement with me

Holly I have a short cervix due to cone biopsy done 20yrs ago where they were over generous with what that cut and freeze 🙄

It's a simple and quick. Dildo cam and can save babies life if you need a stitch

Mel splash back is not good. Few times I've thrown up at home and been splattered with puke splash backs which made me Heave more !!!

All good here. Had 28w mw app yesterday. Mw found bubs breech and then asked if student could feel. Fine by me. They have to learn. Student was gentle but couldn't find baby so mw felt again and bloody bubs had in a maternity of minutes turned round and moved up 5inches and curled back round my stomach facing my back. Her fav position

Have 4d scan this weekend. Alien baby 😱😱😱😱

Hey blondes, thanks for the info. I wasn't too worried about it until I rang Kings to find out if they had measured on my scan last week. The doctor was cross I didnt mention I had previously been told I had a short cervix so I stupidly did some googling and of course have worried myself. My old midwife from Croydon wasnt at all bothered when I mentioned it to her, which is why I had sort of forgot about it. Oh well, at least Kings are taking it seriously.

Hope everyone is having a good day today. Promethazine is definitely not working for me anymore, so going to give the number Linda suggested a ring. I am 14 weeks on Thursday and hoping for a miraculous instant recovery... Yeah. I know.

IDEally stitch needs to be in by 16w - if not 20 the latest - if you need one