Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

South - I am not driving, in early weeks I could barely get out of bed so driving was really never going to happen, now I am up and about a bit more I still don't feel safe driving as nausea attacks with dizziness can come on quite strongly and suddenly. Think I will wait until off cyclizine too as I definitely have moments where I can't quite remember what I am doing.

Captain - from what I remember of previous pregnancy I decreased meds gradually when I accidentally missed a dose and didn't notice! I know I still need meds at the moment, as a few times over Christmas I was an hour late taking pills and started to feel pretty rough.

Congratulations on your pregnancy melleebacca, sorry you are already feeling nauseous, welcome back to the club. As you were ill in previous pregnancy the GP should be willing to prescribe drugs straight away (mine gave me them as soon as I was pregnant, I was an idiot and didn't take them as I was coping ok with nausea at first and was worried about drowsiness side effects, then it hit me really hard and I wished I had just taken the pills at the start).

15 week weeks now and am so happy I was well enough to enjoy Christmas with DS, things are definitely getting so much easier.

Slightly belated Merry Christmas to you all!

My GP is an idiot, and finding out during the Christmas holidays makes it very difficult to get an appointment. I keep meaning to change GPs, but somehow life keeps getting in the way.
Stocked up on 'safe' foods yesterday. I was on ondansetron from week 7 to week 34 last time. I do still have some left over, but I'm hesitant to take it just yet.
The hardest part is not knowing my due date, and my midwife can't see me for at least another 2 weeks so dating scan is probably 3 weeks away and I'm sitting here, hopeful that I end up with normal MS. But judging by the debilitating Nausea I have already, I'm just being naive.
Struggling with the mental side of not being the Mumma my little girl is used to.

South - I drove when sick last time around. Mostly just to doctors appointments and home again. I was never sick while driving as I was focused on what I was doing. But once I got home I would heave and heave and heave.

South, I did drive while taking meds, but only shortish distances and only after the oblivion of the first tri had passed. I think it just depends on how alert you feel; medication affects people differently.
Peace, sorry to hear about that path vomit. It's awful when it comes on unexpectedly like that. I was sick in my garden a few times last spring, it's not great.
Four, hope your January phased return goes well. Sounds like you have quite a commute to endure?
Sneezy, glad you managed to enjoy Christmas with DS and that the sickness is easing a bit.
Mellee, good work stocking up on safe foods! Hope you get to see your GP soon but if not, at least you have the Ondansetron to fall back on. Try not to worry about your DD; she's young enough not to remember a period of (relative) neglect. Do you have any childcare help? The toughest part of HG when you already have a child or children is that it's much harder to rest, so I hope you have help standing by. It will be worth it in the end!

Bit of a panic - Couldn't feel bubs Move last night after I posted

Worried about it all eve/night. Rang triage early hours told to go in asap

Was put on monitor and heart beat loud and strong and moving showing /heard via monitor

Never cried so much. Tho then in relief. Thought we had lost bubs - she's being a pickle

Saw lovely senior midwife who said come in whenever worried - they are there for us 24hrs

Almost got told off. She said I should have called them /gone in last night

She said call anytime if preg but even more so if infertility /older /high risk as I am

They will never say we are wasting their time etc

So morel of story ladies is please call mat triage if any worries

But hopefully none of you will need to

Mella. Welcome back mad woman to do all again :) tho once baby is in arms we will forget about then sickness etc - pay for a private scan if you want to know dates

South. Always drove. Sometimes puking into a coop bag 😷😷

Peace glad sickness is getting less

Blonde - OMG. That sounds so scary, but glad everything is all ok. You're so lucky that everyone tells you to call whenever, such great support! I'm in NZ, and in my town there's no places I can get a private scan done, gotta wait my turn in the public system

MoP - took an omdansetron tablet this morning, hoping to take the edge off the nausea. Driving to tell my mum today. Hubby is off work for the next two weeks and this helping out with DD while I lie pathetic on the sofa.

Thanks for the messages guys re: the bad taste. I will try and pick up some different varieties to try when in town tomorrow.

Ludinda, I'm on ondansetrine or something like that and a pet-something hydrochloride (in liquid form as I struggle with tablets).

I was doing quite well, managed to eat and drink a fair amount on Christmas day but since then the drinking is a real struggle. I think I'm getting dehyrdated again, as my symptoms are increasing -nausea, the tght throat that likes retching every now and then, severe dizziness etc. I'm managing to eat (mostly) but it becomes more and more difficult as the symptoms become more severe as the hypermesis becomes pickier.

For example, I'm sipping ice water atm but it's a struggle. Everything else I have tried so far (different cordials and flavoured water, some juices) just makes me feel really sick as soon as I start sipping - water does this but much subtler. I haven't actually been sick yet but I'm sure it's not far off with how I'm feeling.

Has anyone else had this issue?

Hope the holiday season continues to be happy for everyone.

Haich - I love water when not pregnant and drink whole glasses in one go. When pregnant, I have to sip water and then lie very still. Last time I did research and it takes up to 15mins for water to completely absorb into the body. So I would sip and lie still for 15mins to prevent throwing it up and the horrid dehydration cycle.

Hope everyone is managing ok today. Told my mum and she was very shocked. My fault for saying one and only last time!

Mel. I can't fault the NHS. People moan about them but they are good if need care

I have emergency/reassurance scan today (which is nice as HOSP looking after me as geriatric and ivf) as of events tue night /wed am - think they just want to reassure df and I as heard heart and movement yesterday after my panic

Haich you are on a mixture of drugs - hope they keep working - fruit lollies helped me lots in the summer - when v hot in Aug and sept (R.E.M. The heat ...... and sun ....... looks at cold hard white frosty garden) and literally could t stomach anything else

Cross-posted with you yesterday Blondes. Sorry to hear about your scare, you must have had an awful fright. So glad all is well and that you've had such good care.
Haitch, I think the struggle with liquids is even worse than the struggle with food when it comes to HG. Like Mellee, my main drink when not pregnant is many glasses of tap water gulped down each day. When pg I cannot stand water at all. Even the thought of it had me retching. I found ice and ice lollies OK, and then a bit later on I liked ice cold sparkling elderflower in tiny sips, and later still, ice cold chocolate milk.
Mellee, my mum was quite cross when I was pg with DC3, saying 'why put yourself through it again?' etc, but she was also sympathetic, and came round to the idea eventually. Hope your mum will be able to help with your DD when your DH goes back to work. Are you working or SAHM?

MoP - I'm a SAHM. And I'm hoping my mum is able to help out too. DD is a mummy's girl through and through, so I need her to spend more time with other people so when I'm in labor and with a newborn she's less screamy without me.
To be honest, I'm freaking out about everything to do with this pregnancy at this stage.

Blondes - the NHS is looking after you really well. I found last time that no one really started to give my illness any major consideration until after 12/16w when I was 6kgs down and there was less chance of miscarriage. Seems until then, I'm on my own.

peacelove
That Garden Path and Then Sink Experience sounds grim, oh dear. Glad OH cleaned up. So glad it isn't every day for you any more.
Blondes That sounds traumatic. How awful! Cyber hugs. I am so glad you got reassurance, and they didn't make you feel like a time waster. The level of care seems to vary so much. Sadly, some women on this thread, though severely dehydrated, have solemnly been told to 'man up' by consultants! It's good that they are alert to help older first time mothers and those who have had fertility problems.
Meleebacca Ah, you're in NZ! Can you get some kesostix in - not sure what they call them there - to test your urine for dehydration just in case? Never mind, your DD will soon forget any period of comparative neglect and your mother will probably be delighted when the news sinks in. Don't feel you are being pathetic. You are ill.
HaichM Are ice lollies or ice cubes any good for you? How are the pesky ketones testing?
MotherofPearl Wise advice.
Waves to fourcorneredcircle Sneezypeasy and everyone...
Sorry if I've rudely missed anyone.

Here's the Due Dates list when last updated. Poor Melleebacca can't give us a date at the moment, I know...

Due Dates
MrsM2016 5 February
Light 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June

Lucinda - yip, I can get ketosticks from the pharmacy, although I'm fortunate enough to not be throwing up, yet. Just debilitating nausea here. Eating and drinking small amounts often and lying very still. I'm somewhere between 5 and 7 weeks, hopefully closer to 7, and then I will feel like I won't get HG this time. Vomiting started at 5w5d with DD.

MEL. Oz care sounds awful. I've been lucky. Have fab gp who is supportive and mw plus the hospital staff

Mother. Weird how we are all diff. Think said many times only drinks I can stomach is water and recently sweet black tea

All good with scan. Bubs growing well. Now 2.4lbs :)

Blondes - what a gorgeous scan! I find now, at 14 months, I can still see the same side on profile of my DD as the scan picture at 20weeks. And yes, NZ care is a little bit blah. But that could just be my experience. My step mum in Auckland had a much better time with HG as up there she has specialists galore and could easily pay for private treatment and thus be treated magnificently.

Mellebacca All luck for escaping the scourge.
Blondes A great scan picture. Lol about 'message withdrawn'. I hope no Ginger Pusher hypnotised you into a trance state, recommending 'ginger' .

Lol no. Reliesed I had all name details and dob on scan so reported myself

Blondes I once went one better on a website - I was accused of impersonating myself .
How is everyone? I am so glad that Blondes had a nice outcome to that scare. Someone commented on feeling movements early, and I meant to say,, I remember I felt them very early, about 13 weeks, which is supposed to be impossible; but that fluttering is unmistakable, those 'feathery ticklings', Blondes mentions a low lying placenta as a reason for not feeling them until later, and others have mentioned this. But might there be an obverse reason for feeling them really early?
I hope everyone is avoiding admission, at least.

Mellee fingers crossed for you it doesn't develop into HG. If the nausea is debilitating though maybe worth trying medication to see if it's more bearable? Was it Lucinda saying to stop the brain getting stuck in vomiting behaviour before it gets started?

All ticking along here, although I'm still at the bottom of the due dates list, wah!

Just struggling with asserting myself that I need to find time to rest during the day at the moment. My sister's staying with us and I feel really boring vetoing trips because I just won't be up to it. I miss my old normal self.

CaptainWarbeck I did hear that about a neurological pattern being formed, or some such thing. That made it the worse that even when this thread started out a few years ago, women were never given any meds until they were hospitalised for severe dehydration. Thank goodness the NICE guidelines, etc, have changed! Sorry you are still at the bottom of the list. That is very discouraging.
Joining you in hoping that Meleebacca escapes with normal MS. Some on this thread have the second time round, and it has to be someone...

Captain I forgot to say, you are so right to refuse outings that will be too much for you, even if it makes you feel like a killjoy!

Captain - thank you for your reassuring words. It's so tough to pick resting over activities, especially at this time of the year. But the resting does make everything less sickly. I miss my old self too. I miss eating whatever I wanted and as much of it as I could jam in. I find the mental side of HG to be so much more taxing than the physical side. You're doing so well.
Lucinda - I read a very small study that was done on HG that found 50% of women who suffered with their first pregnancy went on to suffer with their second. But due to the size of the study, it's not very well recognized.

blondes I'm so glad you got to see baby on a scan after your scare - and get such a lovely picture! Must be so reassuring for you .

peace Noce to hear from you... even if the anecdote isn't so nice... poor you.

captain know how you feel about missing out on stuff and wanting to get back to being yourself.

Mellee is it worth trying to get some drugs? Just in case? Try and head it off at the pass?

Rubbish couple of days here. Bile run + morning voms and retching well in to the afternoons. Seem to be regressing a bit, skeeping a lot again. Hope I just overdid it a bit over the last week and that I'll level off again in the next few days.