Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Congratulations Rae - lovely news!!! (and everybody just moved one step up the due dates list )

So sorry you are so poorly JustHavin - hope the IVs can get you back on an even keel for the rest of the PG.

Oklahoma and TwoDrifters I was very hesitant about number 2 (despite not having the worst sickness here by any means). FWIW I did find taking meds earlier (and different meds) seemed to help. First time round it took me too long to really realise what was happening and then I felt too bad to face making the trip to the doctor when the first prescription didn't work. This time I got drugs as soon as things started to get bad, and then added metoclopramide to the cyclizine by about 8 weeks I think - when the sickness started to overtake the cyclizine and I wasn't coping very well any more. Between those two I had my last vomit I think around 17 weeks this time compared with 20 weeks in my first PG, despite the sickness starting earlier and I think probably being "worse" as a baseline (untreated) than last time.

The bad thing second time is you don't have that false hope that it will be over soon, plus for a few months you will probably feel like the most terrible mum in the world. The good thing is that this time you know exactly what you are doing it for: with my first I didn't even know if I would enjoy motherhood or was making a terrible mistake. This time I have found that spending time with my DD has been a brilliant reminder of the light at the end of the tunnel!

Right, must go - spent half the morning at speech therapy with DD and the other half at an antenatal appointment, so must actually do some work now!!

Can I ask a question. It's just because you mentioned speech therapy. I had HG in my second pregnancy and my DD now has a speech delay. And I think I might have seen something in the paper about HG causing speech delays. Does anyone know anything about this?

Congrats Rae 👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼👶🏼

I get a months cyczline at a time. Box of 100 tablets and I take 3 a day so just over 30 day so supply

redjumper and SouthLondon I did see something about a small study which found a greater chance of delayed speech in children born to Hyperemesis mothers than those without. They stated that there was no link with medication, but I do think that they might be tactful in releasing these worrying tentative conclusions drawn from small studies - as if women going through Hyperemesis haven't got enough to worry about!

Hi redjumper - I haven't seen anything about that. I'm not sure something speech-specific would necessarily apply to my DD because she isn't really delayed exactly - she hit first words etc. pretty much on cue and has a big vocab. The thing that concerned her paediatrician is she was very late with some of her social signs (waving, pointing) and has some "odd" speech patterns (repeating phrases and not being very assertive at asking for help) so I think the paediatrician's concern is more general than just speech. Having said that she has good eye contact, good imaginative play, etc. and is generally lovely and chilled out so it's a very mixed picture. For now we are just enjoying her and seeing what happens!

I hope I didn't worry anybody by mentioning DD's ST. As far as I'm aware there's no link and nobody has asked about HG at any of her appointments. Anecdotally I know several other women who had HG whose children have no apparent problems/issues. And although I was very sick with DD I'm not sure it would really class as HG (I was never hospitalised with it and could always manage fluids).

WOW - I am fascinated.

I also had HG in my first pregnancy with DS (now 2.5). He has expressive speech delay. He has had private speech therapy since he was about 20 months - and making good progress now.

Everyone said I was nuts to be worried at 20 months but I just KNEW. And I was right. He remains behind in his expressive speech (while understanding is actually advanced for his age)...I am glad I reacted quickly.

Gosh I actually feel a little relieved that it might be HG related! I always thought I did something wrong that I could have controlled.

Oh well - can now look forward to a second child with speech delay...

LH your DS sounds very similar to my DD who is 18months. She understands everything and communicates non verbally very well but she is way behind in expressive speech. She's only really just started making babbling sounds, until now it's just been squawking noises. There are no words, nothing close. People also think I'm nuts for raising it as a concern but the HV has referred us to speech therapy now.

LightTripper I'm sure you didn't worry anyone by mentioning that. What I meant was, I saw an article which seemed to be a bit alarmist - and there was another article on the same website which was full of alarmist stuff about the risk of father's over thirty and I was inclined to dismiss it, but if people on here do feel that there can be a connection in some cases, as well to discuss it, of course!

Gosh, this is very interesting about the speech delay. I guess even if there is a link - which is by no means proven - then there's nothing any HG sufferers can actually do, so it seems as Lucinda says, just another thing to worry about.
JustHavin, how are you feeling now after hospital treatment? Really sounds like you've been through the mill.
Oklahoma and Two, I do think it's worth going for a second, even though it's very hard indeed having a young child while you go through HG. As Light says, you don't have the false hope the second time around, but in some ways that's quite liberating. I found it easier mentally to just resign myself for the duration, instead of constantly holding out for an end to the sickness (which only came after the birth in both cases). I also found it helpful, when deciding whether to TTC, to think 9 months of HG would be hell, but in the bigger scheme of things, it's not that bad, certainly not when set against the lifetime of pleasure another DC will bring. I hope that doesn't sound glib.
South, how did you get on with the cyclizine prescription? I think Blondes is right, a 30 day supply is the most you can get at once.
LH, very amusing picture of your dog yesterday. 'Gravitas' made me You're sounding remarkably upbeat, considering.
Waves madly back to Lucinda! Still feeling so glad about Rae.

Congratulations Rae, all the best for little Rae's hasty recovery and home coming :)

Today was meh. I have settled in to a routine of medication/vomit/ice lolly. I've run out of things to distract me on Netflix though... it has to be stand alone episodes because I sleep through half of them and loose the plot of the series! Finished Jonathan Creek, Delivery man and Heir Hunters... any suggestions?!

redjumper my DS didn't say Mama until he was nearly 2!! I feel your pain!

If it helps he now has 100s of words in his vocabulary including Ocado, football and willy (yup, willy). He also has two sentences: 'Mummy buy more' and 'Mummy car blue'.

It is one of the slowest most frustrating processes I have ever witnessed. He just doesn't shape his mouth correctly to make the right speech sounds. Pronunciation really very poor. An ice lolly is still a goddam 'yoyo'- WTF??

But what I have learned is that his understanding, non-verbal gestures and expressions, and body language are a FAR more important indicator of his long term development. But I can still lie awake at night and start sweating about his fxxking speech.

I will stop now as this is the HG thread, but feel free to PM me any time if you would like to discuss any further. As I am some months ahead of you in this process I am sure I can reassure you.

LightTripper I am pleased you mentioned the link! Whether it is true or not I like to have the information, would much prefer any developmental problems to linked to HG which I have no control over versus, say, the SSRI which I also take (walking pharmacy, me)...

Thank you, yes I'm sorry for hijacking the HG thread too!

Fourcorner I love crazy ex girlfriend, kimmy Schmidt, frankie and Gracie. I've started Crown.
Doc appt tomorrow and flu jab
Totally miserable and cross with the cat! Husband working late tonight. Can't get hold of him but have sent a message to come home immediately (although trains a mess ... so wish him luck!)!!! On way home pregnant commute friend and I were discussing how my cat unpredictably pooing is stressful When husband not home I'm at the mercy of it happening and then I have no access to the bathroom and he has been late to work in the mornings as hanging around to clear up a poo in the event it appears and makes me sick!!!! So anyway. I moved the litter tray into spare room just to give me more bathroom freedom and the bloody cat has only gone a massive poo in the bath!!!!! How I was sick I do not know. Currently the bathroom door is jammed shut and I am in bed.

South that is dreadful!! I'm laughing a little (is that ok?). You poor thing! A poo in the bath would definitely not be my scene right now.

My small and only-female dog got her first period this weekend. I am cleaning up little dots of blood all over the kitchen floor. Not great I must say.

Cat and I not talking and she seems a little sad now. I always had such a weak bladder but in pregnancy it's doubled in strength, thank goodness. Husband on way home. He and my friend independently told me to cross the road to Tesco to use their loo, wash my face and get a new toothbrush and paste! I hate Tesco ... become almost allergic since sickness started.... this is another scenario to go in my book of 'things I can hopefully talk and laugh about in time'
Why is 1st trimester so long?!?

My cat pooed in the bath the other week too after I moved the cat litter tray away from where I vomit... weirdo cat. She's being very lovey at the momment though (nothing to do with the hot water bottle and snuggly blanket I'm sure...). She and I will try some of those suggestions tomorrow thanks south while the boy cat stalks leaves outside.

I'm back in the bathroom! Hurrah! So much for having an early night...!

Let me know what you think about Netflix options. Got loads more suggestions! I can provide a schedule that will keep you entertained for hours!!! It's hard fitting my tele addition around work ...! Since being on self prescribed bed rest outside of working hours I've watched a few more series that are good. But start with those ones for sure! Something that's good if you can get on iplayer is the missing. It's dark but actually really good and when I was explaining plot twists to my husband even he started watching it.

Four, have you watched The Good Wife on Netflix? Kept me going for weeks!

Flu jab done and waiting for 100 cyclizine... doc suggested cutting one out (cause he doesn't like them and haven't been physically sick for a few days) ... I thought let's walk before we run! I'm only a breath away from being sick at any one time!!! Even when I talk I hiccup, burp and heave ... feeling attractive!

Love goodwife, homeland

Yes don't rush it South - I found it was a bit of a gap between stopping throwing up every day and actually being able to cut my number of pills down. If it was my first pg I would know exactly how long the gap was as everything was written down - this time I just gritted my teeth and slogged through it, and I've already forgotten exactly what happened when! Amazing how the brain can blank things out.

Really interesting re: expressive speech as it is definitely more that end where my DD struggles. She understands everything, can tell you what is going on in books she has never seen before if you ask her - but only very recently started to ask for anything, still doesn't call for Mummy or Daddy when she's having a problem or if she wakes up early in the morning, etc. etc. etc. I can see it is strange - just not sure what to make of it yet, and nobody else seems to know either. I think speech delay is quite common though, especially in boys, and doesn't necessarily amount to anything in the long term.

Hope everybody is doing OK today. Got bugger all useful done yesterday except throw out a big pile of CD cases (am half-heartedly re-Kondoing, if that is a thing). But I suppose that is better than it would have been a few weeks ago. Today must be productive though!

I'm going to stay on them for now as I know how severe nausea is without taking them. Doc saw me with mascara, a few sips of ribena and 1 slice of toast with jam ... that was a 3 hour job!!! basically a different woman to the rest of the time and day!
I am just so thankful I can control it to this degree with medication. I cannot imagine feeling worse!

Sounds like you are being super organised, I am impressed. I've got loads of chucking out I need to do... can you help me after??! Productive is productive and sounds good to me.

I don't know what any of the codes mean. What's DS?

Have to go out - just dashing on to say I hope everyone is coping, and never worry about 'hijacking the thread' redjumper - it's relevant after all, and nor should LightTripper apologise for raising a legitimate concern, Sorry, I sound like the trade union representative I once was!
SouthLondon I think that is 'dear son'? I could well be wrong; I'm no expert. And congratulations on mascara. Goodness, that isn't easy to put on at the best of times. I am sure you looked lovely.

fourcorners I am so sad and out of touch, I don't even know about netflix, but if you can watch old films and dvd's on it, can I recommend two old productions of classics - 'Eugene Onegin' the one with Ralph Fiennes (that'll make you cry, though) and the DVD of the BBC series 'Clarissa' (by Samuel Richardson). Geek or what?
I am so happy about RaeSkywalker.
I hope takeabreak is feeling better. peace did you get meds?
mrsm2016?
I hope everyone is OK in this cold miserable weather.

Sorry, fourcorners that is 'Onegin' not 'Eugene Onegin'!