Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Welcome Nicnac, although obviously sorry to hear you're suffering. It sounds like you're doing all the right things, like taking cyclizine early on, so I really hope this helps to keep the worst at bay. I hope you have some ketostix ready to test for dehydration? It is undoubtedly very much harder facing HG when you already have young DC to look after (I did that twice; my first PG wasn't too bad sickness-wise). Don't feel 'soft' if you need to get booked off work, and take all the help you can get. And do stick around on here - plenty of support and sympathy available!

Meant to say, Autumn, are you at your destination yet? I hope once you arrive that you can rest and that perhaps the meds have begun to ease your nausea.

I wish there was a home for HG suffers. I would pay to be there.
Hope your all doing well xx

Mulb, I believe that they do have HG 'day centres' in the US, and I think a few Early Pregnancy Units in the UK have them. I gather they're on a drop in basis, and you can go in to get IV meds and IV rehydration as and when you need it. Wish this could be something widely implemented. Would also be a chance to meet and commiserate with other sufferers.

Nicanoo21 Welcome. Dont hesitate to go back to the dr's if the cyclzine doesn't start working soon.
MotherofPearl Great advice about ketones and dehydraton/starvation, anti acids and lactulose, and I so commend your quoting my angry cluckings that if this was a male disease, it would have been taken seriously years ago.
Rae I hope not too tired?
autumsunshinebaby Glad you've got meds. Have you arrived?
HappyDays HOw long have you been on Ondansetron? Sometimes they have to combine it with something else.
SleepymrsE Sorry about reflux and baby's impossible position.
Mummymulb16 Those drop in centres are such a great idea.
LightTripper I was another one who had single umbilical cord. Trust me!
Of course, they will have checked to see all is normal but its unnerving.
Much sympathy.
FresbreadandFaith I have only known Gaviscon go 'gloopy' when it was aging. That is annoying. I did fnd though, that it made me vomit up plentiful strange mauve foam.

Thank u MotherofPearl I appreciate ur message and support! One day at a time eh!

nicnac welcome! Although I'm sorry you're having a rough time. Keep going back to other doctor if you are struggling and don't worry about feeling soft. I think you've got to be pretty hard core to go through this HG business!

A home for us all would be great - perhaps the HG would stop at the doors and we could go in for a lovely sick free day at a spa! In my dreams!!

Yes we got here ok. I went straight to bed and slept on and off all the way down. What's the deal with Phenergan? I took it last night and obviously slept through the side effects... I had to take it again this morning (Dr said I could) but I couldn't stay awake on it and have slept a lot of the day. It's helping a lot with the nausea so I'm not sure whether to try the metaclopromide instead or just sleep my way through this holiday? Any ideas?

autumn it does cause drowsiness but if I remember correctly from my first pregnancy once you've been taking it a while your body gets used to it. Glad it's helping though. Hope you can enjoy at least some of the holiday.

Thank goodness for that! Thank you for letting me know your experience of it.

Welcome nicnac!

And thank you Lucinda - it's really reassuring to hear from others who've had the same thing! Any growth issues etc for you or all fine?

Sorry, missed the last few! Just to say Autumn that the Cyclizine made me really drowsy/dizzy the first few days, but it settled quite quickly. May be worth giving it a bit longer if it seems to be working?

Hi,
My first post here :0)
I have been violently sick and bed ridden for 6 weeks ( I do not feel like a human any more, to weak to even cry). Morning sickness started at 4 weeks and I had diarrhea and vomit at the same time(tmi bath is next to loo!!). I was admitted to AE as I was bleeding from end 2 due to the severity of diarrhoea. Dr did a check and said Iron vitimins were causing the problem (prenatal tablets) and to derive iron from food, such as chopped liver . He said being sick 20 times a day is just normal morning sickness and I'll get over it !!!!! I could hardly stand up and walk out of the hospital I was so weak, luckily husband drove me.Two days later bleed continued and went to my GP who said the same and reconfirmed to come off any vitimins, she did offer anti nausea tablets but I refused as I have a bad history with tablets and allergic reaction and nearly died , so very wary of drugs !!I've been in bed six weeks, with my trusty vomit bucket by my side- going to the loo drains me so much of energy and showering only happens once or twice a week as I'm physically sick in the shower and feel faint. I sleep 9 hours a day then sleep most of the night unless need to be sick which can keep me up a lot.
My husband worries but works away, plus he is not good with vomit. I'm not sure what is going on I am scared for my own health and baby. My scan date works out to be at 14 weeks so have another 4 weeks to wait . I'm still bleeding once a week it seems but feel put if by going to the Drs as the attitude is that this is all very normal and I just have to wait it out.
Any advice would be great :-)

Oh Zaspbar you really are going through the mill. I'm so sorry it's all so difficult at the moment. You've come to the right place for support. Everyone here is so friendly and wise... I've only recently joined too and have felt so supported. Are you in regular contact with your GP?

Hi Autumnsunshinebaby ! Thanks for your response, I haven't been but , although she did say to come back if I change my mind about the anti sickness tablets. Other than that just keep resting when my body tells me to. (She said she had bad morning sickness as well).
I'm so happy to of found this forum as my Dad died(hospital neglect, investigation is ongoing) a few months ago and he was the only person I've been close to (close enough to discuss things like this !!).
I've always had a weak constitution and feel bundled with grief and current distrust of Drs I do feel it is having a massive effect on my wellbeing. My inlaws (my closest) do not like to talk about feelings- very Old school English, so much so I'm just unloading a lot here :-)
I've been reading so much on this support page and plucked the courage up to write. I'm very watchful of my fluid intake to make sure I'm not dehydrated (something I've learnt from here rather than Drs!) also I try not to cry as I worry the baby will hear - silly I know !

Oh dear Zaspbar, it sounds like you're in a terrible state; I'm so sorry. Warm welcome to the thread. I'm afraid that being sick 20 times a day is not normal pregnancy sickness at all. I understand your worries about meds but I wondered whether you might be willing to consider trying some anti-sickness meds? It may make a big difference to your quality of life? Is this your first pregnancy?
I think what you describe is pretty normal first trimester for HG - I spent most of the first trimester in bed too, didn't even brush my teeth for weeks, took me ages to get enough energy to have a shower. It's such a hard time, I really feel for you.

And Zaspbar, sorry to hear about your dad. I don't think baby will mind if you allow yourself a little cry.

Nic welcome (and congratulations on the BFP). Glad to hear that your GP is prescribing cyclizine for you.

Mulb an HG centre would be amazing!! Like Mother says- for the company if nothing else. HG is so isolating.

Autumn glad you arrived safe. I have no experience of your meds but it looks like you've got some great advice already

Zapsbar it sounds like you've had a terrible time. I'm so sorry about your Dad. Like Mother said, being sick 20 times a day is not normal. Maybe consider the tablets? Have you told your GP why you're reluctant to take them?

So sorry for going quiet for a couple of days everyone. Just had my 28 week midwife appointment. Had a really bad night with my itchy legs again so mentioned it- she's done a liver function blood test and also booked me in to see my GP straight after her (I can't believe that there was a free appointment!) he's given me steroid cream to try, but to be honest I think he didn't really know how to help me- I've tried everything else he suggested! Hopefully the blood results will be back soon. I'm struggling with the HG today (it's hot, and I'm tired because my legs kept me awake). Glad that it's Friday tomorrow!

I'm so sorry if I've missed anyone- it was hard to remember where I last read to on the thread! Thinking of you all as always

Nic also please go back if the cyclizine doesn't work! I remember the misery of 6 weeks well 😁

Thank u everyone for ur post and RaeSkywalker. It is good to sound off and to hear other experiences. Zaspar I'm so sorry to hear how bad ur feeling and also my deepest sympathy over your sad loss! You sound very much like I did with my first pregnancy. I wasn't allergic to the tablets but I refused as I thought I would damage my baby somehow. Anyway this time I've taken them as I cannot possibly bear the thought of being back in that dark place! I'm quite convinced it triggered depression. Anyway i second and third what the other ladies are saying, that maybe u should try the anti sickness tabs! For me they don't take it away but I'm being sick a few times a day as opposed to 30 times a day leading to hospitalisation. I really hope you get sorted and even though there isn't much to make u feel better right now, u will b rewarded with a beautiful baby and this will b a thing of the past! Motherhood for particularly HG sufferers starts the min ur heads in the toilet bowl! It's tough and sometimes u see no reward but trust me the min u see ur baby all this will make sense!! (U don't forget though!! Lol) all the best and let us know how u get on! Xx

Zapbar Welcome. Sorry you are suffering badly. Do take the meds, and go back for more if they don't work; I find it hard to believe the GP, if you have such a dramatic history of allergies as that, would prescrible ones dangerous for you. Of course, I can't imagine what he meant in saying being sick twenty times a day is normal. Do you mean inividual heaves or separate sessions?
autumnsunshinebaby I suppose its always worth trying a lower dose for a couple of days, or the metro.
LightTripper No growth problems whatsover, my DD was 8 and a half pounds a birth and now is bigger than me.
Nicnacnoo Do go back if necessary. Don t be embarrassed to make a fuss.
SleepymrsE I must get The Pink Castle ready for you. You will soon be joining us there where the Hyperemesis Nightmare Ride ends...
Waves to MotherofPearl, mummymulb16 and Rae . Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Thanks Lucinda - that is reassuring!

Welcome Zaspbar - sorry you are here but you are very welcome. 20 times a day is not normal at all in my book. Is there a different GP at your practice you can see? It may be worth discussing with somebody who takes it a bit more seriously. So sorry you are not getting the support you need.

Thank you everyone, today's been hard. I'm finding it hard to leave the house/bed atm to go to the GP. The initial conversation actually agreed with me in the end not to risk it. I guess if I was losing lots of weight i would take it. I will talk to my midwife again on the phone.
Every time I tell someone I feel like I'm moaning as they tell me how they manage to go to work etc but unless you've experienced this isolating, exhausting exsistance there's no way one can know.
I do get "like Kate Middleton" a lot....
Haven't left the bed again today.

Has anybody had their keytones tested, if so what was the result?

Xx

Rae, glad that the midwife took the itchy legs seriously, and hope the liver function test comes back all clear. 28 weeks already! I know it feels like time is standing still but I remember you in the early days, so 28 weeks seems pretty far along!
Zaspbar, if your ketones are 3+ you should be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. The highest I ever measured was 4+ (in my first HG PG), but I know some people have measured even higher.

Welcome to zaspar and nic. Sorry you have both had to join this thread but it really is a good place to get sympathy and support. I have always found it reassuring to talk to others who understand what HG feels like. zaspar I very much agree with others who have suggested giving the meds a go. I was on some during my first pregnancy and on a whole host of tablets this time round. Without my concoction I'm not sure how I would be able to cope. The combination of meds, and rest and time passing and you will get through this. Don't get me wrong with 5 weeks to go I am so ready for this baby to be born but it is so much better than it was during those horrible first few weeks!

Fingers crossed rae on the bloods. The liver ones took a good few days to come back for me but the iron levels should come back quickly. Fingers crossed all is ok.

Waves to light, autumn, mulb hope you're all coping with the heat.

Thanks to lucinda and mop for all the support once again. lucinda I am dreaming of the pink castle but I bet this kid makes me suffer to 42 weeks!

Feet and legs massively swollen again today and on toddler duty tomorrow so off to bed soon to raise my legs. Hopefully I won't be awake from 3.15 like I was last night. On the plus side I went back to sleep pretty quickly after my reflux/sickness episode at 11.

Hello all, I'm sorry for long absence- my premature baby has woken up and is in normal newborn mode eg. Much more demanding and trying to look after her and toddler isn't leaving much time for mn. However it is nothing compared to hg. You ladies are all doing brilliantly.

To all who are new especially Zaspbar a warm welcome. This thread picked me up and helped me carry on when I just wanted to give up. The support and understanding from those going through it with you is incredibly important. Take care of yourselves- I miss the excuse to drink endless chocolate milk!

Will try and pop back properly soon rae keep going you are doing so well

LT sounds like things are slightly improved for you from when I was last reading- really hope so

Keep posting ladies it's all worth it I promise!