Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Rae, so pleased that you had a good day yesterday. One good day is often a sign of better days to come, and even if it's just a blip, it's always welcome to have some respite. Hope your MW appointment goes well later.
Thinking of Hues today and hoping that the section goes ahead and goes smoothly.
Woken up to torrential rain here on second last day of the holiday. Starting to run out of options to entertain the DC and contemplating going home a day early!

Hues hope you're ok!

Mother what's the forecast like for tomorrow? Hope it improves.

Had a lovely midwife appointment, feel quite excited about it all now. It's amazing how these things can boost your mood.

Really pleased to hear you had a good midwife appointment today rae, and that you're feeling pretty good at the minute - long may it continue!

I got sent home from work today, felt and looked pretty rough. Got home and went straight to bed where I stayed til nursery pick up time. Hoping its a short lived relapse. So fed up of feeling rubbish again. Midwife appointment next week so we'll see what she has to say. Got DS on my own tomorrow and could cry! DH is away with work too next week although I am only working two days so hopefully can get some rest when he's at nursery.

Hope hues & little one are doing ok.

No baby! There wasn't a SCBU cot available and it doesn't look likely that there'll be one tomorrow either. I've spent the majority of the day in tears. Found out yesterday that the ketones in my urine were at the highest levels possible so the iv fluids were upped and I had to eat through the night to flush them out otherwise the section wouldn't have been done today in any case. Spent the night with absolutely no sleep and in a constant cycle of eating and vomitting. I was vomitting around 15 times an hour. The worst thing is, I have to do it all again tonight just in case the section does go ahead tomorrow. I'm exhausted.

hues you certainly put my moaning into perspective! That sounds horrendous. I hope you get the c section tomorrow, will keep my fingers crossed for you.

Sleepy I'm glad that you managed to have a rest before you collected your DS at least. Hope that the midwife is sympathetic and helpful. Mine has always been really factual rather than supportive- just checks that I'm managing to eat and drink something, that's pretty much it. I guess that's all they have time for in the appointment.

Hues I'm so so sorry. I don't know what to say except that I think you're very strong to have got this far, and I will be thinking of you and hoping that a cot is available tomorrow

Hues I don't know what to say either. It sounds literally unbearable. The only thing I can think is that these are the very final days. I am keeping everything crossed that a cot is available for you today xxxxx

Found myself thinking of hues on and off all day today. Hope no news is good news and a SCBU place came up!

Me too Light!

Had a bit of a bad day today- HG not great but mostly was really upset by my 'friend'. Not sure if you remember, but it's the same friend who texted me asking how I was, then had a rant about how I couldn't want my baby if I was complaining about sickness, then put up a passive aggressive Facebook status about pregnant women being whiney the next day?

Well, that was a couple of months ago now. But she's done it again today. A long post about how complaining about pregnancy symptoms "like morning sickness" is horrible because it makes women who are struggling with fertility issues feel awful, and pregnant women should be grateful to be pregnant.

For context- she isn't trying to get pregnant, she would love children, but wants to finish some studying first. She's a high maintenance friend (everything ends up being about her), and I've accepted that- until now.

I really feel that I've come to the end of the road with her. I don't know what to do!

Sleepy, how did you manage with DS on your own today? Hope you aren't too exhausted and sick. Childcare and HG do not make an easy combination.
Rae, I remember the incident with your 'friend' a few months ago, and I'm really appalled by her recent behaviour. Does she really have no compassion at all? No matter how badly a pregnancy is longed for, when the sickness hits you (whether full-blown HG or 'just' MS, which is bad enough) it is really hard to stay positive! Just because you're understandably fed up with the HG it doesn't mean you don't want the baby, or that you aren't grateful to be pregnant. If she is so ignorant and thoughtless that she can't understand that then Rae I really think you're better off without her in your life. You need people around you who are loving, kind and supportive when you're going through HG. I think it's best to cut her out, for your sake. I remember from what you said before that she seems to 'take' a lot from you and not give an awful lot back. This is unfair and draining for you. for you.
Also wondering how Hues is getting on. How are you getting on Light?
Quietish on here; hope that's a good sign.
We're home from our holiday now and I must admit that I'm glad to be back - I'm such a home bird, and only really like my own bed!

Mother I just think she doesn't consider anyone else. It probably wasn't even aimed at me directly (as I've put nothing about my pregnancy on Facebook, not even a scan photo), but she won't have stopped to think that it might be hurtful to me. It's so illogical too- for example, she has loads of photos of her wedding on there- what about our friends who are single being upset? Not quite the same but hopefully you get my point!

One of my other friends has just commented along the lines of "how dare you shame other women, you should be supportive" so I think I won't get involved in the bun fight! If she texts/ calls me to catch up, I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to be her friend any more, but I've never ditched a friend before. I'm not sure whether to say something about why I feel I can't meet her or quietly let things drift. I always think that silence/ deleting off Facebook is a bit cruel?

It's so pathetic that I'm angsting over this but it's been on my mind all day!!

I'm exactly the same as you, I love my creature comforts. Currently missing my own bed as we're sleeping in the spare room

Oh gosh so many ladies going through so much

rae I would just stop answering texts/calls be very non commital and let the friendship go gradually. Sounds like shes not worth it

hue I really have no words to support you through this horrific time. I really hope that cot comes up so you get your c section and this is all over soon

LT hope you are coping all right

sleepy how was midwife?

Just checking in mid feed with a dd in the pink castle who is nearly back to birth weight by day 10 after losing 9.8%! Phew! Thinking of all still suffering

ickle well done to you and your DD for getting her back up to birth weight! How are you doing?

I've just been to JoJo and bought a few bits to make myself more presentable, so feeling a bit happier in myself. It's all kicked off with the friend- she's argued with numerous people, another friend has directly referenced the possibility of me being upset and she's dismissed it. DH 'reacted' to her post (to show anger as opposed to 'liking' it) and she sent him a personal message saying he was agressive and it wasn't about me, it was aimed at another woman she's friends with... So that makes it ok then?

She's just text me saying she's sorry if I'm upset but it wasn't about me, and my reaction is a shame because she was "just starting to feel happy and excited" for me. 5.5 months into my pregnancy

I'm going to have to deal with this rather than ignoring, aren't I. Thinking a text along the lines of "I can't be friends with you on Facebook for now, I think it's for the best that I delete you".

What a flipping nightmare. It's really upsetting me, I'm very introverted and non-confrontational. But the HG is worse today because I didn't sleep well for worry, so I need to do something

What a pain Rae. Did you know you can unfollow people without unfriending them? Maybe do that for now (just go on her page and it's an option) and then I think you won't see her posts.

If it was me I think I'd just text her and say thanks for the text but you're struggling at the moment and really can't handle any unnecessary drama. If she chooses to take offence fine but you've said your bit, and otherwise you can decide what to do long term when you're feeling better? She doesn't sound any great loss from the rest of what you've said!

I worried about this issue as OH and I were in a group of 5 single friends when we decided to have DD. I know a couple would love to have kids, and the other definitely doesn't want kids, so it was a bit of a shock to all of them when we announced we were pregnant. Despite that they've all continued to be brilliant friends. I am so grateful as it can't always have been easy. But that's what good friends are like isn't it? The other kind you don't really need.

Wondering how Cwtchy is doing too? Hope you are OK.

I'm back to coming a couple of times each evening but I think the drugs are helping as I'm a bit more with it and feeling a bit better than I was mid afternoon. Have been basically asleep all afternoon today which has been great (though feel a bit guilty as reason it was possible is that DD had Men B jab this morning and had a bit of a temperature and a massive nap!)

Hope everyone else is doing ok xxx

Light, glad you've had a good sleep today - proper rest makes a huge difference to the HG. Hope your DD is OK after her vaccination.
Rae, I so agree with what others say, you're really better off without that friend in your life. If I were you I'd just let it fade naturally - hide her from your FB feed as Light suggests, and gradually stop replying to texts etc. You have the excuse of being ill so you don't have to see her, and when the baby arrives you'll be too wrapped up in all that to give her much thought I hope. Try not to let it bother you too much; she's already taken too much energy and headspace from you.
Ickle, glad to hear your DD has regained her birth weight. Nice to have your early hours of the morning posts caused by baby feeding and not sickness!
I hope Hues is OK, and that everyone else is managing. I'd better dash off, am trying to tackle the post-holiday laundry mountain (rock 'n roll Saturday evening here!).

Light and Mother you have good ideas that I was definitely leaning towards- I actually unfollowed her last night with the intention of letting things fade, but after everything today (especially with DH) I don't know if there's much point keeping her on there. I do feel a bit uncomfortable about her seeing, for example, a baby announcement- I feel quite protective of the baby now that she's been so odd about my pregnancy!

Light I'm so glad that your friends have come through for you. I've always just been happy for people, it's never been a massive deal for me, so this is all a very strange experience! Glad to hear that you think the meds are working and you've managed a decent sleep. I always feel better when I'm not tired.

Mother sounds like a very glamorous evening. Would a glass of wine help?

Evening all...

Rae that is awful behaviour from a so-called friend and I can only reiterate that the best thing to do would be to unfollow or unfriendly. She has no idea what's she's talking about and her ignorance is, quite frankly, unbelievable.

Nice to read some good news from a few of you though.

Still no baby! SCBU and the entire labour ward have both been closed as over capacity. I'm in South Wales and the nearest SCBU cot is in Liverpool so needless to say, my section has not been done. It has been rescheduled, for the third time, for Wednesday with the hope that a few more days will help to allow for a few more discharges from SCBU. Still vomitting constantly, as per usual, and anti sickness meds are becoming less effective. It's so difficult because they won't do the section if I have ketones in my urine and so, for the 24 hours before the section, I have to eat constantly, and I mean constantly, to flush out the 4+ ketones that I have. I quite literally have to lie in bed with food in one hand and a receiver dish in the other and am vomitting after every single mouthful of food. It's grim and I have it all to look forward to again on Tuesday evening.

Here's to hoping that here's a cot available in SCBU on Wednesday else I'll be a broken woman.

Oh Hues I'm so very sorry. Was hoping that no news was good news! I've got everything crossed for you for Wednesday. I had 4+ ketones but was sorted relatively quickly in hospital, I can't imagine how bad you must be feeling to be at that stage even with intervention

Thank you for the sympathy, it's such a trivial issue compared to what you're dealing with! I've done nothing so far. Just plucking up the courage to unfriend her. I've decided not to reply to her text I think- it'll just provoke a reaction.

I'm sure that's sensible actually Rae, my suggestion was a bit passive aggressive. I blame the sickness!

So sorry to hear you are still waiting Hues. Awful that there is no closer SCBU bed that is a bloody long way. Everything crossed that Wednesday comes off. It really has to now doesn't it? Surely they can't let you go longer. At least baby will be that bit more developed I suppose, so hopefully you'll be home more quickly after xx

I've had 4+ ketones for 8 weeks Rae, it's just my accepted level given the circumstances. Even the iv fluids don't flush them out which is why it's such an effort to get rid of them. A litre an hour of iv fluids plus the constant eating for around 18 hours will get rid of them for the next 12 hours even if I am running to the loo on a half hourly basis! it's not a trivial issue you're dealing with; it's a totally insensitive and ignorant attitude and I'm so angry for you.

We're allowed to be passive aggressive at the very least lighttripper given the circumstances! If Wednesday doesn't happen, well, I can't even begin to consider it actually. I just can't bring myself to think of the worst case scenario of it being postponed again because I really don't think I'm strong enough to deal with any more bad news.

Hope you all have a relaxing Sunday planned.

Back at last. So sorry to see such dismal goings on with social media bullying and unsympathetic GP's. MotherofPearl Thank you so much for the invaluable help and support. I am sorry weather wasn't better; that's such a disappointment in the 'English Riviera'. Welcome to 'HuesofBlue and CwithyQ I hope I have the name correctly. Hues This sounds terrible. I have only known of two cases which approached such a dreadful level on these threads. One was called ICan'tthinkofausername and was on here a few months ago- she had serous health problems anyway. Kalidasa* who was on here a couple of years ago was not quite as bad after the first twenty weeks or so. I didn't know either that they made you eat when vomiting was inevitable or that they induced so early. Just hoping you soon have the caesarean if it hasn't happened already.
CwithyQ There may not be a 'magic pill' for this condition, but they can offer various ones that help most people a lot and I do hope you feel up to requesting alternative medication to cyclizine. The number on my blurb is a good advice line for helping sufferers to get effective meds.
SpecialStains Sorry things are still bad and I do hope baby arrives ASAP.
icklekid It is very good that despite being so early baby went home so quickly.
Rae I am disgusted to hear of this friend, so called - and that was so cowardly to deny it was aimed at you. She may be mentally unbalanced, I suppose. Others' suggestions sound very sensible. Mother Hen clucks her tongue about working such hours.
Lucy I hope meds are still working well and so glad that those people have - ha ha - 'exposed themselves'.
SleepymrsE Sorry to hear of general suffering.
LightTripper The lack of understanding is very isolating. Much sympathy to you and to all.

Light I don't think your suggestion was PA at all! She wouldn't have known if I'd just unfollowed her, so it would've been kinder than my approach. You are nicer than me!

Hues that sounds like torture. Poor you. Do you have people visiting to support you/ cheer you up?

Welcome back Lucinda. I hope things went ok for you. I'm allright about the friend really now that I've made a decision, just a bit sad about it all- she's definitely unbalanced (nothing diagnosed though), and it's probably quite cruel of me to distance myself really, but there's only so much I can take at the moment, and HG and impending parenthood is enough to cope with for now.

Hope everyone else is ok

I can't imagine they will let you go longer Hues, they must know there is a limit to what you can cope with. One of my friends has a baby in NICU at the moment as there are no SCBU places where she is... At some point there must be options and your health is at stake too. Will be thinking of you often, you are superwoman. xxx