Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

ickle glad you're feeling ok in yourself, it sucks that you're so low physically though. I wish that pregnancy could be shared with our partners so that they fully understand how god awful it is!

Lucy I hope you're back on all the tablets now and feeling ok. A woman at work told me I'll feel loads less tired when i'm over the 12 week mark. I'm nearly 18+3. Brilliant.

Reebok it sounds like things are a real struggle for you- I hope they settle soon. It's lovely to hear from you though!

Oh no, there is a bird trapped down our chimney!! I'm trying to work out if this constitutes a big enough 'home emergency'
to ring DH at work in a panic. Poor little thing

Reebok! lovely to hear from you, although so sorry that you're having such a difficult time with both DDs suffering from reflux. You must be exhausted. Really hope things begin to look up soon; you deserve a break. x
Lucy and Rae, sympathies about the tiredness. HG exhaustion is like no other. I had daily afternoon naps right up to the end, but now, even with the newborn-induced sleep-deprivation I feel great and never have naps. You will feel normal again, I promise.
Ickle, sorry that the doctor has insisted that you're off work, but it's probably for the best, and it's great to hear about doctors who actually take HG seriously. See you're still doing your crack of dawn wake ups!
SleepyMrs, are you back on track now after the relapse when you reduced meds? Hope so. Time does seem to stand still during HG but your due date is coming closer, even if it doesn't feel like it. Once baby is out, time seems to speed up alarmingly. DD2 is 7 weeks old today.
Special, hope your last day of work has gone OK. Enjoy putting your feet up!
Waves to Lucinda, MrsMonkey and everyone.

Hey reebok! ofc remember you! (meerka here) ... lovely to see you again and hope yoru little ones find their feet shortly. That thrush is a bit of a bugger isn't it? were you on antibiotics?

lucy can you go up on the tablets again? Sometimes we don't realise how much they're helping until forcibly faced with it!

There is an interesting article here www.bbc.com/news/health-36586665 today. It starts off being annoying about 'take ginger' then goes on to acknowledge that HG is much more serious and undertreated.

Half way through another day ... hoping everyone survives.

Hello all. I have finished work until July 2017! It's an odd feeling. Last day was lovely and went out for lunch with work friends.

Reebok sorry to hear you're still having a hard time. I hope dd1 and dd2 get better soon, and that things pick up for the three of you.

SeaEagle I saw that article too. It made me so mad the first paragraph going on about ginger and acupuncture for MILD morning sickness and then going on about hyperemesis at the end. Grrr.

Lucy never believe anything other people tell you about pregnancy. Particularly hcps telling you when the vomiting will finish. Fwiw, I'm 32weeks and still knackered. Not eating properly does that to you.

Rae How's the bird situation?!

Waves to ickle, Lucinda, mrsmonkey, sleepy and everyone else.

Yay, so pleased that you've hit the milestone of finishing for maternity leave special. I bet you're so happy right now. Days of resting with a spot of nesting thrown in when you have the energy.

rae did you save the bird? How's your phased return going? You back full time now?

ickle how are you doing since you've had a few rest days? Hopefully the sickness has eased a bit now.

lucy I have now conceded that I need to keep taking more tablets, each time I try to reduce I end up really sick again and although I would like to slowly wean myself off them obviously my body still needs them and I don't want to be a martyr so will be a good girl and have upped my dose again which seems to have helped today.

reebok sorry to hear you've been having a tough time, I hope it improves soon. I have real sympathy for your little ones, my reflux is awful at the minute and I'm an adult who can rationalise and take meds but poor little ones, I feel so sorry for them (and you).

Hi to everyone else, including mop, mrsmonkey, sea eagle, and lucinda.

I'm in bed, propped up hoping for a good nights kip. Feet and ankles were really swollen again today. Only 11.5 weeks til maternity leave starts!

Mother hello! Hope you're ok. It's interesting that I might not feel much worse with a newborn (thank goodness!)

SeaEagle I have saved that article. Thank you for sharing. I wish they'd looked at the differences in care across the country though!

Special that must fee so strange! Well done on making it to the end though! Hope am you get some rest.

Special and Sleepy I actually started a seperate thread on Mumsnet to ask for advice r.e. 'birdgate'. I had no clue what to do and thought Mumsnetters wouldn't let me down! I was laying on my stomach trying to see it with a torch at one point, and then realised that it was a terrible idea so called my Dad. Dad worked out the bird was about halfway up the chimney, but we couldn't see it. So I had to get a chimney sweep on emergency call out- it basically cost £40 for him to shove a brush up there and push the starling out. DF and DH think I've gone mad, but I couldn't listen to an animal suffering. We're buying a chimney cap at the weekend to stop it happening again, I can't cope with it!

Sleepy I'm still doing 3 mornings a week, which feels right at the moment. Hoping to increase soon though! Does anything help your feet and ankles? Hope you get a good rest.

Reebok how lovely to hear from you. Of course, you're not forgotten. That's awful about your poor two lO's both having reflux, and you still not getting sleep and you and baby having thrush, too! I am glad the mantra is helping. Hugs.
MotherofPearl Lovely to hear from you, too. Great advice.
SpecialStains So glad you have finished work! I bet you are celebrating. Oops, I feel bad saying this. Acupuncture did really help me, but I was unusually lucky. Other women on the thread have tried it, and it helps, but not to the same extent. I think I had a brilliant acupuncturist, who got the exact place to a millioneth of an inch! He vanished; I've seen others since, for migraine, and it's only helped a bit. I think that is why it helped me so much.

Icklekid It's really good the thread helps a lot. I think birdsong is one of the most soothing things in the world. I saw an alarm clock advertised ages ago, that woke you up with birdsong. I wish I'd got it now.
Rae That is a worry. That poor bird can't won't b e singing at all.

SleepymrsE I'm glad you are back taking a full amount of meds.
Lucy It's downright annoying when people say such things. This fabled energy does not apply to Hyperemesis sufferers, who have to undergo prolonged starvation as baby is taking all the nutrients...
SeaEagleFeather I must look at that. Hope you are OK?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked...

Hello everyone,

Have skipped four pills today, feeling okay, but exhausted. Apparently my pills make you even more tired, so going to try again with no pills for a while. I was very sick this morning, but haven't felt sick today, and it was always the constant nausea rather than the actual being sick that was mostly the problem. Will see what happens tomorrow.

Thank you to everyone for all the well wishes, sorry to not mention people by name, I feel like I've now been hit by a dumper truck and a bus!

Found some good tv on iplayer though, so that's something!

Waves to everyone & hi to the new-not-new ladies 👋🏼

Glad you've not felt nauseous today lucy hope the exhaustion slows down a bit too. What were you watching on iplayer? Being signed off means I have plenty of time to explore tv inbetween naps!

rae that would be £40 well spent in my book! Glad it's sorted and I couldn't have sat listening either. I remember we had a bird get down my parents chimney whilst we were on holiday when I was younger. There was a lot of mess! I felt the same way about spending £65 today for a man to spend 15mins climbing a ladder connecting new tv aerial to socket. The electrican had put the cable in but said he couldn't connect it...ugh. If he had at least pretended it took longer or was slightly technical I would have felt better!

sleepy I'm not great, mon/tue were ok but yesterday I was very unwell. I went to the physio for spd/pgp whatever it is now called but basically cried and said as hg had got worse I wasn't able to do any of the exercises I had been doing and wasn't really well enough for her to prod and poke. She was so kind and have me some adjusted exercises (clearly the oap version!) And told me to cancel in future if I was still unwell. She looked so worried at how dehydrated I was... I probably shouldn't have gone but it was the only thing I have on this week (other than voting tomorrow) so wanted to go!

special horray for finishing hope you had a nice lunch with friends (the company if not the food anyway!) Hope you can properly rest now for a bit...

seaeagle have read that article (someone else posted link to it on different thread) to be honest anything that raises awareness of hg is probably good however that obviously has to be balanced against encouraging people to eat ginger biscuits so I'm on the fence 😉

Why oh why is ds gone back to thinking 5am is a good time to wake up? He's perfectly happy singing to himself and chatting away but seriously child 5am...my friends 3 month old slept until 8am. I don't think ds ever did that! Oh well maybe baby number 2 will like sleeping more...

SeaEagle I just read the article - being sick ' up to 30 times a day' - I wish!

Ooh, the page hadn't updated.

Ickle it's a series on iPlayer called The Home That 2 Built. Brilliantly funny social history. Basically what BBC2 showed through each decade with talking heads explaining the background. Yesterday I learnt all about the class politics of the 70s lawnmower. Ha!

Morning all!!
reebok so lovely to hear from you but sorry to hear things have been rough - sending much love and 'this too shall pass', Medicate with cake etc.
rae well done on bird saving!
ickle 😟 Re physio, I hope you're alright. Take it easy, keep an eye on ketones.
All those trying to reduce meds, take it easy, and if it doesn't go well take the meds again please!
special congrats on Mat leave! Hope you can rest.
Sorry not to do a longer msg but need to crack on and make DD's bday cake and go to vote....
Was interesting to see the news articles following the release of the new MS/HG guidelines from RCOG yesterday. However....
Just received an email from MIL who read a BBC article and don't know whether to laugh or cry - "The interesting point is that it mentioned that some people advocate the properties of ginger.... I'm sure you've done lots of research, but just in case one tiny thing may help you a little..."
AAAAAARRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!
If I needed any more proof that she doesn't have a f'in clue... Would like to ignore but expect I need to send a polite reply. Am comforting self with composing responses that make me feel better but that I won't (obv) be sending 😊
They're coming for DD's bday, I just hope she doesn't try to say anything like that to my face! Rant over....
Waves to everyone

Ps. Link to guidelines in case anyone hasn't seen:
www.rcog.org.uk/globalassets/documents/guidelines/green-top-guidelines/gtg69_hyperemesis.pdf

Sorry if I've linked wrongly, I don't know how to do a nice clean hyperlink, feel free to educate me! (Ickle I think you know how to do it??)

mrsmonkey if you can reply politely to that! I can hardly believe your mother in law or any reasonable person, if they stopped to think, did not realise that you had tried every off prescription method before you were forced to take meds. Oh, dear...
Lucy About the thirty times a day - I didn't realise that doctors count each heave as a separate vomit until recently. Not sure how many non medical people do. I hope the sickness is still keeping at bay?
Waves to all. I still can't get over my forgetting about those cornflakes as sometimes bearable food...

mrsmonkey link is url word so after the url put whatever word you want the link to appear as in your post (obviously no space between [ and the url. If that makes any sense!

Lucinda they count each heave? Better make that 200 times a day then 😭
I was counting separate occasions. Just vomiting up what looks like water now, I think I must be out of stomach acid. Is that possible?

Yeh I was interested in that - the questionnaire in the guidelines specifically mentions dry heaves! I had always counted actual separate vomits....

ickle sorry that your DS has decided he's a morning person! Thanks for the solidarity r.e. the bird. I don't think DH has quite got over the cost yet! I told him it's a small price to pay to save his pregnant wife stress.

mrsmonkey ginger cake for your DDs birthday then 😉

Lucy

Well, we have arrived in our hotel for Goodwood. I'm shattered from the journey and quite nauseous but not too bad all things considered. DH wanted fish and chips for tea and I managed about 2/3rds of a small portion of chips. Haven't been sick yet, hopefully it will stay down! They baby is going nuts now, so it must approve

Gawd if heaves count, they need to make the scale a lot, lot larger!!

Rae baby K likes chips too! Wiggly.

MrsMonkey Everything makes me heave. I don't think I should count dry heaving. People coughing makes me dry heave the most. Or opening the fridge! I'm so much fun to be around atm!

Managed a half portion of wanton mee for supper. The saltiness was good. Yum yum. Fingers crossed it stays down. Have resorted back to the tablets (baaaad day).

Rae is it the Festival of Speed this weekend?

Lucy yes it is. We're just going tomorrow (it's cheaper on Friday). I can't believe I've kept chips down- the thought of potato makes me heave normally! Apparently potato dripping in fat is fine

Hope you've managed to keep your dinner down.

Horray for chips and a fun filled day tomorrow rae I had a bad experience with sausage and chips twice now so have given up! Will certainly enjoy post birth!

Googles wanton mee so as to look as sophisticated as lucy 😉 please don't feel bad about taking tablets- I've just increased from 3 a day to 6 a day due to sickness getting much worse and refuse to feel bad! Oh and vomiting acid was very very common when I was really bad. So nasty when there is nothing left in your stomach to vomit and yet you can't stop...

mrsmonkey is it worth dh having a conversation with said mil before she comes to make sure no ginger type remedy is suggested? I'm sure its well meaning but not what you need for dd birthday!

Well made the mistake of looking at eu referendum results and am shocked! Really didn't expect leave to be in the lead. May struggle to go back to sleep... had such a lovely day with no sickness (plenty of rest) then dh kept moaning about how much painting still to do so I tried to help, was sick so gave up and cooked him tea, was sick again! Moved all food from old fridge freezer into new fridge and freezer and then gave up collapsed in bed. Dh is off tomorrow however he's had enough of painting so will probably not be in the best mood as that's his plan for the whole day! I will just keep ds away I think...and buy more ice lollies. Can't go wrong with ice lollies!

Take the tablets ladies! Every time I reduce I regret it. I don't know if anyone else has this, but I spend periods thinking that I'm not really that badly affected by HG, that maybe I don't even really have it, and feel like an imposter / malingerer. Not sure why! And then I vomit horrifically and think, oh perhaps I am a BIT ill. Does anyone else feel like this? I don't know if it's because I feel like I have little support and understanding in RL apart from DH (obv you ladies are a wonderful lifeline on that front).

Thanks ickle yes DH has said he's going to spk to MIL and ask her not to talk to me about it. I kind of wanted him to send her the tips for family and friends on the preg sickness support website, as I'd rather they have some proper facts than we just don't communicate about it, but maybe I don't have the energy to explain HG at this point in time.
I know this is not the right forum for political stuff but am hugely distracted and distraught by the referendum result. This is not a good emotional state for someone who's 8m preg 😢