Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi all, I'm rubbish at coming on here and keeping up with everyone. I'm 11 weeks preg, hyperemesis from about 5 weeks. 2 hosp admissions and on meds. Relentless nausea and vomiting. Then all of a sudden yday afternoon the nausea eased and then today I feel fine!!!! I mean the nausea has been constant day and night for 6 weeks then all of a sudden it's gone. Im so worried that somethings happened to baby I've got midwife tomorrow but please tell me I'm being irrational but I can't help think somethings went wrong!!

I've just looked online and it says research shows that 90% of ppl with hg have that helicobacter pylori!!
My mum had this a few years ago and I've always suffered from acid reflux and a noisy stomach!
I've just rang drs and they said I need to speak to a dr to get them to arrange a blood test. Drs going to call me on Friday rather than a appt.
Defiantly worth a try

Hi everyone
Really interesting rocket, I'd love to know more too
amys sorry to hear about trapped nerve. I have a lot of probs with back of my pelvis (sacroiliac joint) on one side, physio helps. If finances allow, please see a private physio, you'll wait ages for any assistance from NHS in my experience.
fresh I quite like taste of lactulose too! Me and DD are both on it (I don't take mine from a calpol syringe though...!), she calls it her 'num num'!! Glad things have improved for you a bit on that front.
Welcome kayleigh and tweed and good luck to you both. Supportive GPs and early medication make all the difference.
ickle I am so heartened to hear how great your work are being, gives me hope! I know it really helps you on a mental health front to keep working so pleased you are able to manage a few hours. I have now been signed off for rest of pregnancy, it's a relief!
reebok you really are having the worst time. Keep on keeping on and hope baby comes soon. i hope also that your birth experience is more positive this time. Whatever happens just focus on having that sweet baby in your arms. Much love.

lucinda I think you mentioned acupuncture helping with the sickness? Please can you tell me more?

I'm exhausted but not been sick since Sunday which I feel is a super achievement.

Hello to everyone, sorry if I've missed people. X

Ps. Fresh - I had some terrible headaches a few weeks back which I felt were due to the Ondansetron - they've stopped now though thankfully. Hope yours clears soon.
lynn that sounds amazing - I'm sure baby is fine, do you have a scan soon? If you're really worried you may be able to go to EPU for them to check on baby to reassure you? Hope you continue to feel nausea free.
Good to know kayleigh, please let us know how you get on

Thanks * mrsmonky it's an IVF pregnancy so I'm sure I've to get scanned at my booking app, which is tomorrow. I've been so down about sickness and off work for 6 weeks praying for it to ease up, then woke up nauseous yday morn and by the afternoon it had eased and this morn it seems to have gone. Just so worried. I mean I done feel amazing still a bit yucky and tired but can't believe sickness would just go that quick, I was in hosp for 4 nights last week for fluids I was that bad. Ahhhh I'll just have to wait for tomorrow.

On the helicobacter pylori there are quite a few studies, though none have huge samples. One of the first was late nineties (journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/1998/04000/Hyperemesis_Gravidarum_Associated_With.26.aspx) which can't have been long after helicobacter was discovered.

This is a good one: journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Abstract/2007/09000/Hyperemesis_Gravidarum_and_Helicobacter_pylori.25.aspx

It is a meta-analysis, which means it concludes from results of a number of smaller studies. It found odds ratios between 0.5 (no connection) and 109, meaning that someone with helicobacter is 109 times more likely to get HG than someone without. The reality is likely to be somewhere in between. There does seem to be a strong connection between the two, indicating that helicobacter is a strong factor, but it is not the only cause as some women with HG (maybe 5-20%) don't have helicobacter, and also a lot of pregnant women without HG do have helicobacter.

I suspect I did have it (close family members have had it), and that could be why the omeprazole is working for me - helicobacter live in stomach acid, maybe when the stomach is not acidic anymore (as on omeprazole) they reduce??

Hi all, just a little one from me. I'm now on 10mg of Phenergan and 10mg of metoclopromide three times a day and it's really helping a lot. BUT I am crazy tired. I slept for twelve hours last night then I was awake in a zombie state for four hours before falling asleep again for another two and a half hours. I'll probably be awake til about ten and then go to bed again! Does anyone have any advice to reduce the fog with the aim of trying to get back to work at some point? Maybe halving some of the doses or skipping one? Don't want to get sick again but my days are a blur at the mo. Could PSS help? (Will have to set an alarm so I don't miss their opening hours )

Bit of a 'woe is me' post so apologies in advance. So today DS has been diagnosed with slapped cheek... He can't seem to catch a break poor kid but the walk in centre told me to speak to my GP tomorrow as it can be dangerous in pregnancy esp before 20 weeks. Then this evening (tmi) I've passed a small brown clot. I've had tummy ache today but then I often do so didn't really think much of it. So between slapped cheek risk & spotting I'm stressing slightly. Will make an appointment with the GP tomorrow but not quite sure what to expect.

SleepymrsE Poor you. I don't know anything about this illness, but that's worrying for you. I hope you can get reassuring good advice soon. Hugs.
Ican't How did the move go, if your family have moved?
Reebok Oh no, asthma and hay fever besides your other sufferings. This is awful.
Four Hyperemesis pregnancies must have been hideiously wearing.
Rocket I didn't know, either. That's amazing. I've always tended to suffer from heartburn, and my late father had stomach uclers, which cleared up after an antibiotic treatment! A great piece of research from you.
Twinkle So glad you feel a it better.
Lynn5 I expect it's just a good day. Worrying, even so. Hugs.
Freshbread Sorry, I scribbled a message for you, and one for 1More and I can't read my awful writing.
Mrsmonkey Yes, Acupuncture really helped me. I was refused meds by an old school doctor - this was many years ago. I got in a terrible state and in despair, phoned up an Acupuncturist. He agreed to treat me as an emergency. By the time I staggered there, I was light headed and couldn't take in what he was saying to me, that I must report to A and E if the vomiting didn't reduce ease by the end of the day. He used the 'H' word which i had never heard of before.
Amazingly, It did ease off, and over the next couple of weeks I got so much better that the symptoms went but for residual bad heartburn, that i had throughout, which caused occasional vomiting. But I was very lucky. Though most people are helped by it, that was unusual from all I've seen on this thread. I think he was an unusually accurate practitioner, and got exactly the right points.
Great advice from OnceaMeer MotherofPearl and everybody.
Apologies if I've rudely ignore anyone/cross posted as usual...

twinkle maybe give it a bit of time. The Phenergan is known to make people sleepy, but the effect can wear off a bit. Try changing back to cyclizine a week before you try working again, maybe, since it has a similar but less strong effect.

sleepymrsE poor son :( I hope the doctor can reassure you

That study looks interesting rocket. I wonder if the more specialised HG doctors know, several people on the thread over the nearly three years I've been here have been under consultants who've got a speciality in HG, and none of the women have mentioned the consultations talking about H. Pylori.

gosh if it's that high a correlation then this might be a very interesting area

Thinking of you sleepy as I imagine your not having a great nights sleep with so much to worry about 😥

twinkle I think phoning pss sounds like a good idea. I'm afraid I've no personal experience of similar fog but if it doesn't improve please go back to your gp to adjust dose/medication to be manageable

lynn I can totally understand how worrying symptoms just stopping must be so hope midwife is reassuring and you do get scanned!

rae all my bloods have been in midwife appointments so I'm sure she can do this if your not able to before.

mrsmonkey what a relief to be signed off rest of pregnancy that must take a lot of pressure off you!

amysmummy how is the pain? Any physio or other treatment update? Hope your able to rest and dd is helping to nurse you!

icant hope house move went/goes well and you are able to supervise only!

reebok still thinking of you

Wide awake for an hour and dh has to leave by 5am tomorrow morning. I'm absolutely exhausted after 3 mornings at work and terrified it's too much too soon. Tried to put a plan together to be back properly by half term but seems so unrealistic given how I currently feel. I really want to take ds to toddler group tomorrow as miss my friends from there a lot (we chat whilst ignoring our children mainly 😉) but know it won't help me recover so should let mil take ds. So frustrated at my own body and it's inability to function whilst pregnant!

Hey ickle pain is still there, doc prescribed me cocodamol but it hasn't touched it really, also prescribed me codydramol to try bit waiting til the weekend as it mentions drowsiness on the box 😌 I've booked a pregnancy massage on Sat to see if that eases it.
sleepy I hope everything is ok with both little ones, dd has a random dry, red cheek which she's had for a while now, I've got her booked into docs tomorrow to investigate but it doesn't look like the slapped cheek rash I've googled. I hope gp refers you for a scan to put your mind at rest and check baby is ok... Here is my little amys cheek...

Lovely mite you have there amys! what a sweetheart

Thanks for all the well wishes. Spoke to the doctor first thing & I've been in for some urgent blood tests this morning. Hopefully they'll come back today and then the doctor wants to see me. The doctor seemed more concerned about the slapped cheek risk than the brown spotting but I guess depending on the blood results I might be being referred up to the hospital anyway. Trying not to worry as there is little I can do but I wish things were a little bit straightforward - I'm sure lots of us on here feel the same!

amys hope you and Amy get on ok at the doctors. Both my DS's cheeks are bright red and he's covered in a rash all over. He seems ok in himself and he's gone into nursery as now he has the rash he's no longer infectious. Even the walk in said he's been particularly unlucky with 2 bacterial infections and a viral infection at the same time. He probably picked the virus up from the hospital playroom!

ickle you sound like you've been doing too much. You really should rest but I totally understand how you feel. It's like we just want to get back to normality. I feel I perhaps have done too much and wondered if that had possibly caused the spotting. DS is such a heavy boy and toddler tantrums don't help.

Waves hi to everyone else, including newbies. Glad to hear things are a bit better lynn, I'm sure things are ok even tho the nausea has reduced. Hopefully you are just one of the lucky ones who only had it for a short time. Or it is probably the meds working really well. Don't do what I did and start skipping tablets because you feel better - it really proved to me how much I needed them after a really bad day.

Hope mrsmonkey and all the others now signed off/on maternity leave are managing to relax a little. Thinking of reebok & icant.

Thanks sleepy Yes probably have done too much! I can't help it and feel like I've done so little since January and am still only 21 weeks in... ds is normally a really good sleeper not the night but last night was awful so very grateful to mil this morning!

amysmummy amy is gorgeous hope it's nothing serious. Ds has awful dry skin at time and had some good prescription cream which helps- could she still be teething?

sleepy hope you get some answers soon as must be worrying.

Hello All.
Amys, your DD is so sweet! I guess the GP will give you some answers but to me it looks like a patch of excema. My DS suffers from this from time to time, rough red patches flare up on his face. We treat it with the emulsifying ointment prescribed by the GP which seems to work well. Hope that massages helps to ease your pain.
MrsSleepy, you must be feeling very anxious. You really don't need these extra worries on top of HG. I hope the outcome of the tests indicates all is well.
Ickle, hope you're having a well-deserved rest and making the most of MIL's help.
Rocket, I'm so interested to hear about this H. Pylori research. So many women on this thread are on a combination of anti-emetics and anti-acid meds (omprezole or ranitidine) from an early stage, and anecdotally many of us seem to feel that there is some connection between acid and the sickness.
Twinkle, hope the extreme tiredness starts to ease. If you need to go back to work perhaps you'll need to change meds? But this side effect can wear off over time.
Lynn, how was your booking in appointment?
Meerka, thanks for the reassurance about cyclizine for hayfever. I took one yesterday afternoon and found it helped a lot, so have taken another one this morning. Won't bother with the Ondan while I'm taking cyclizine and will see how I get on. Less than 2 weeks until I'm induced so really feeling like I'm nearly there.
Like everyone, I'm thinking of Reebok and Icant and hope they aren't in too much pain. Also wondering how our old pal Spandau is getting on? Not heard from Special or Squeezed for a while either...

glad it's helping. How are you doing generally?

best of luck with the results MrsE, hope they come back with a good result quickly

I'm OK thanks Meerka, especially compared to others. The background nausea never goes away and I have the odd vom, maybe once or twice a week at most, but otherwise have the HG under control. Obviously just feeling the usual effects of late pregnancy: exhaustion, breathlessness, insomnia etc. Can't wait for this to be over! Feel like I've been pregnant forever!

right bloody endurance test isn't it! glad to hear that at least the HG is lower key ... just the rest to survive!

How did you get on sleepy? Sorry to hear about the slapped cheek and spotting, hope all is ok.
Hello to everyone. Hope reebok and icant deliver soon! X

No results. Phoned the surgery at 5 to be told by a snotty receptionist there was no chance the results would be back if I only had the test today. So I'm none the wiser and as the doctor didn't really say anything about the spotting either I'm in the dark still. Not had any further spotting which I guess is good. Gone back to the very early days of knicker watch. Meanwhile heartburn is bad tonight so I'm sure that'll be fun in the night.

I can't take much more! Just want this baby out. Struggling with dd. oh is bloody useless as he's been this entire pregnancy. We're not even talking because he's not pulling his weight. I can't do this anymore.

SleepymrsE It's awful leaving you in suspense like this. I wish there was something I could say or do, apart from offer cyber hugs.
ickle As others say, you may have overdone it, but it's so hard not to. You want a life back!
MotherofPearl amysmummy and others, I so agree about amysmummy's sweet DD.
Mrsmonkey I missed that about your being signed off for the duration. That must be a huge relief.
Thee are generally a fair number of teachers on here (one poor sufferer was a cookery teacher; can you imagine), and one or two lecturers . I wonder if stress has to do with it.
I hope Ican't has survived the moving stress, and still feeling for Reebok spandau and squeezed. squeezed Have the contractions stopped?
Apologies for anyone rudely overlooked.

Reebok I don't blame you for being desperate. I really feel for you, and wish I could do something. If I say, 'not long to go' it's no comfort when it's all so awful.
Are you still at your mother's?

No I came home last weekend as dd was playing up more than she is here. I just wish I could go to sleep for a very long time and not have to wake up so I don't feel the pain.