Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Oh waiting I'm so sorry. You're in my prayers. Ondansetron made a pretty immediate impact for me, able to keep liquids down after a few hours, nausea better within a day or so.

kayleigh is there a sensitive and sensible gp you can go and speak to re pre emptive meds? Also, could you arrange a care plan in advance, stating what meds you'll be given and in what circumstances si you're not having to fight anyone at any point for yhe care you might need. This is what I plan to do if I manage to convince myself to go thru it all again in about a million years.

Waiting, so sorry to hear your bad news. You must feel very sad, on top of the misery of feeling sick. What an ordeal.
Poppie, I really think that between 17-22 weeks you should be due an improvement, even if the sickness lingers. There's hope for you yet I'm sure.
Thanks Ickle. Btw, you asked about getting signed off I think? I was signed off between weeks 6 & 12 and it was well worth it. There's no way I could have worked, and taking some proper rest helped me to get on top the sickness better this time around.
Squeezed, I'm much the same. I can manage an early lunch (usually a cheese toastie) at 11am, and then don't bother eating again until the evening, when the worst of the sickness and nausea has passed.
Welcome Kayleigh. You sound in the same position I was this time last year. I'm now 25+4 with my 3rd. Baby 1 I had normalish MS, but HG with baby 2. I did agonise about getting PG again, but like you I was longing for a 3rd, so decided to go for it. Have had worse HG this time in some ways, but I think I have been better at treating it, which has meant an improved - if not perfect - recovery. As I've already said, I was booked off work and in bed for most of the first trimester. I also kept going back to my EPU until I got medication that worked (Ondanestron, which has made a huge difference - I still take 1 a day now, down from 3 a day at my worst). So I'd echo what Ealli says about getting prepared and having a care plan, and being ready to push for the right treatment. Good luck, and sorry for the essay!
How are you, Reebok, Spandau, Icant and Special?

Waiting so sorry to hear your bad news praying for you.

ickle I'm beginning to wonder if there's a correlation between reaching and hg?! Blooming kids making us extra poorly all round eh?!

Had the most awful acid ingestion this afternoon, had no rennies, was at a supply school so couldn't go rooting in staffroom for milk or something to calm it, thought I was just going to vomit acid everywhere managed to contain it long enough to mark the books I had and get to shop for indigestion tablets 😌

Doh teaching not reaching!!! The only thing I reach for is the sick bucket and rennies lolol 😂

waiting so sorry for your loss. Thinking of you.

Waiting I am so sorry. How awful to go through this for nothing. I wish I could say something that might help more. I have heard that molar pregnancies make the woman suffer horribly. Ondansetron is one of the best of the anti sickness drugs, as others say, and should work very soon.

So sorry, waiting. Hope ondansetron helps.

Good luck with whatever you decide keighleigh. FWIW my mum suffered horrifically with me (although she claims you just got on with it in those days ), but didn't know she was pregnant with my dsis (unplanned) until 4 months! She's so tiny as well, I can't believe she didn't know! I've already had a serious chat with dh about how I'm not sure I can go through with this again. I'd always imagined two or three, but I just can't. I'll at least need many years to dull the particular bad memory of throwing up digestive biscuits at 11pm, crackers at 1am and weatabix at 3am and crying because of the combination of being hungry but unable to eat.

Thanks for asking about me MOP. Doing OK. I guess it goes without saying that I feel so, so sick all the time! Back at work for 1day next Wednesday (I work 3 condensed days Mon - Wed and sick note ends on Tuesday). I've intercalated from Uni until march, so I'll have a few three day weeks to get used to things again. I've been off since 23rd December (Ickle - my gp was happy to sign me off, and has since suggested longer without me asking. It is important not to get tired/dehydrated as it makes everything worse)!

There was a cancellation on a booking in appointment at the hospital I want to give birth in, and as I'd been pestering the receptionist yesterday about appointments, she called today and asked if I'd be able to attend at short notice. After making it past the God awful canteen smells in the hospital with only a little sick, all went well! Yet another lovely midwife who seemed sympathetic about the hg. Said my dizziness is very normal in pregnancy, but that my blood pressure is on the lower end of normal. Got my scan for next Friday. I now feel nervous about things not being fine. Thankfully, the constant sickness is keeping me reasonably reassured that baby is still alive and kicking out beta-hcg!

Threw up a couple of times while builders were in the house yesterday morning sorting out our snag list, and they came to check on me. It was very embarrassing, but they left shortly after and the site manager (its a new build on a big building site) came round telling me to make sure I didn't do any lifting and just to ask them if I needed anything moving or any ladders climbing, which was very sweet!

At the moment less sickness, but hypersalivation, nasty taste in mouth and hideously loud gagging and retching in very public places. I'm painfully constipated, and have still gone off most foods.

Laughing at the healthy eating and exercise advice in the booking in pack I was given - if I can eat a packet of crisps and a glass of coke for breakfast I consider that a win for the day! I miss my mum staying and just placing tiny portions of scrambled eggs or hot cross buns in front of me without a word. DH always wants to discuss food with me, and I just find too much thinking about what I'm about to eat makes it harder to eat. Spoilt first world problem!

Anyhoo, that was a long message. Writing is at least distracting me from the sick lump feeling at the back of my throat. Wishing all you lovely people all the best. (I would post Cake but it seems inappropriate!).

special my Dh also asks what I fancy for tea and gets frustrated when I say "I don't know" or "you choose I'll just throw most of it up". Bless him for being supportive and I'm just a vomiting ungrateful cow
He's cross that I'm going to work today after being in tears last night with the SPD hurting and feeling really neaseaus. Problem is that the alternative is sitting around doing nothing and that will drive me mad. At least I can be useful at work.

Hope you have a good day at work today Squeezed. Try to take it easy.
Special, I reckon hypersalivation is the very worst thing about HG (and God knows there's some stiff competition for that particular accolade!). I had a ghastly 'spit pot' (with a lid) I took around with me for a time. Swallowing any spit made me vom immediately. That died down around 16/18 weeks.
Amys, that afternoon acid is dreadful isn't it. I eat Rennies like sweets I'm afraid! Yum.

Acid; I found the best antacid was sainsburys own brand spearmint... It was much cheaper than the rest (win!) and much more affective. And this was despite mint being a trigger for me.

special, squeezed I think it's quite normal to struggle to talk about food, thinking about it made it worse for me. Hubby dearest would just give me a bowl/plate of something when I started getting better. It's very demoralising to decide you fancy a certain thing and then throw it up minutes/hours later.

MoP I was lucky enough to never really be afflicted by the extra saliva. Small mercies, hey?!

Poor dh has to cook and eat by himself most eve as not only can I not eat it but the smell of most hot food seems to make me feel worse. I have taken to hiding in the living room and then we get about half an hour before I am too exhausted and collapse in bed! Oh what an exciting life.

I'm dreading work next week but feel I should try half days because I do actually enjoy my job. If I'm not coping on mon will have to go to gp and get signed off properly for a while. .. joy of joys!

squeezed You are not a 'cow'. Think how much more males would moan, if they had to go through this! But in that case, the illness would be taken more seriously.
SpeicalStains Sorry to hear of continuing nausea. That is very draining, and you are right not to rush back to work and study all at once.By the sound of things, though, are you sure you are up to going back yet if you are still having gagging and vomiting episodes like the embarrasing Builders To The Rescue one? It is interesting that you have found the coke and crisps the most bearable food. That and other such healthy food as tinned fruit and cheap ice cream are so often the only sort of things sufferers can retain.

Iclkekid Most sufferers have to take a lengthy period of sickness and just lie in bed . I'm a bit concerned about you rushing back.
MotherofPearl It is a horrible balancing process, as I gather spitting increases the amount of saliva,but swallowing it too much sets of the vomiting. I used to suck barley sugar (from an old fashioned sweet shop) but that can increase it again, though it reduces the horrible taste in the mouth.
Waves to eallison. Leaves, flapping and clucking.

My poor husband lived on omelet and chips for a long time...it was the only smell I could vaguely stand. At times I made him eat outside..

Waiting im so sorry:(

Ladies looks like everyones having a rough time, thinking of you all , sorry for non personal replies. Back in my fave place sarcasm

eallison Ha, ha, it's lucky that it wasn't raining for eleven or so weeks solid, as it has been in Wales of late!
Ican't Oh dear, I wondered, as that n and v bug is no doubt making things much worse. How dismal for you.

waitingforarainbow I'm so sorry to hear about the situation. .

Have you stopped the cyclizine? that sounded like a nasty reaction.

Thinking of you.

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Hello kayleighgirl and welcome.

Have you got an HG-friendly doctor? since you've had it twice it's sadly likely you'll get it a 3rd time though not absolutely certain. As ealli says, if you can plan the pregnancy with him or her, that might help - if you can get meds early, there's some evidence that it helps take the worst edge off it.

Other than that, suggest you try to eat as much as possible and try to get fit, to help your stamina carry you through it.

spandau have you taken your temperature? you don't sound well at all, if you have a fever please consider going back to your doctor (even if he is a bit useless)

amys so glad to hear the scan went well after that awful worrying one before.

MoP do hope today has been a bit better ... nothing makes HG okay but it does make it harder than no one gets it except other sufferers. Agreed that you are amazing, you and reebok both, for managing still to work.

madrigal that physical side does come back, at least after you've adjusted to the sleepless nights! Personally I reckon that sometimes HG can bring you closer because you don't quite forget that he was there for you in a practical sense, even though the emotional side is so hard.

BTW metoclopramide or domperidone can help you digest the food faster, though meto. doesn't go well with cyclizine.

icant can only hope and pray that you get a break. this baby is going to be a miracle.

poppie sorry to hear that it's going so badly again already :/

Wishing everyone as quiet a night as possible. One more day down

Well I'm beginning to think work next week was too ambitious! You were right lucinda Don't know if this is normal but started ondansetron alongside cyclazine on Tuesday and felt much better then and wed not being sick until 3/4pm however thu and Friday been sick since midday and all eve. I appreciate this is better than it was (not keeping anything down at any time) but I've only managed cereal and sips of water last two days. I had thought it may take time to get into my system and work however it seems like the more I take it the more my body rejects it and so end up sick again.

kayleighgirl this is my second and definitely last pregnancy. Had sickness first time but not this bad. Even if it had been this bad to be honest would probably still have had a second. I think part of what makes it worse is that I had illusions of what a newborn would be like that I don't have any more. I know how tough it will be post pregnancy and just praying this little one doesn't have colic!!!

ickle I had a similar experience with ondansetron; immediate relief, able to drink then eat, then after a week or so the effect lessened (ti the point I ended up back in hospital). All I needed was to up the dose, so speak to your gp about that. At that point I was on 8mg 3 times a day (that's what I went up to). What are you on at the moment

ealliison Great advice!
Icklekid Though it is many years ago, I still remember my shock at that three month colic, and the little horror being sleepless for two years. However, for I'm glad to say that the majority of women who suffer from The Scourge seem to have angelic babies, and for those who suffer throughout, thoroughly deserved...
Ican't Have they managed to get a side room for you? Poor old you, what an endurance test this is.
WaitingI hope the Ondansetron is helping now?
I hope Reebok Madrigal Sock spandau SpecialBarmeeMarmee Ruby squeezed and everyone is coping.

Hello everyone. Well I've made it to them end of work and am now on mat leave, thankfully. A friend told me yesterday that my eyes looked brighter and I looked like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders!
Still been feeling horribly sick, had a couple of dry retching incidents last night, but nothing came up. Also managed to slightly reduce my meds although taking that very much on a day bay day basis.
DH is very adamant this is the last time for us so I suppose the end is well and truly in sight for me now.
Sorry to those who are still in the midst of the worst of it. And welcome to the newcomers. Sorry you need to be on this thread but you will find unlimited support here.
Remember, this too shall pass!

BarmeeMarmee Lovely to hear from you, and I'm so glad you've found the thread helpful, but oh dear, what a disappointment that the Hyperemesis hasn't dwindled away at all. Dry retching is horrible. Thank goodness you're now on maternity leave. How old is your LO, now?

Argh I have come on because I need some strong words of wisdom.

I feel like I can't do this anymore. My husband is really grumpy with the kids as he is so tired doing everything and I just can't do anything other than sit still.

I've just attempted lunch and brought it all back up. I think I am going to have to use the ondanstron again. But was told I couldn't get any more from the GP.

I'm hoping a walk to the shops to pick up my prescription will help and will attempt to buy some lucozade!

Iklekid I too am back to work on Monday. Hoping they take one look at me and send me home again. Last time my boss was amazing and told me he didn't want to see me for a month

Peppa Sorry you feel so desperate; this is natural enough, with this Scourge. I don't understand about the doctor not prescribing more Ondansetron, as you were hospitalised, and had it on prescription after that? If the GP's are adamant they won't give you a repeat prescription
do ring the Pregnancy Sickness Support people on
024 7368 2020
they will have to ring you back, but they will, and have been really helpful to women on here in obtaining effective meds.
Gentle cyber pats on offer. Ignore grumpy OH, men are like that when they can't fix something at once.

Sorry, Peppa you can tell I'm dyslexic: that was 024 7638 2020!

Thank you