Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[MadrigalElectromotive]

Hi everyone, sorry just another quick message from me. I will come back and catch up with everyone when I am not on the iPad. Feeling a bit more human today - I think the iv ondansetron and fluids stabilised me again so hoping that this particular flare up will end soon. Utterly exhausted though so off to sleep now. Hoping for a quiet day for everyone tomorrow.

[MadrigalElectromotive]

Oops sorry for double post!

[Corabell]

Hello everyone,

I've had quite a tough week and was on a drip on Monday which was amazing in that it made me feel so much better. I am longing for the HG to ease. First pregnancy I was OK by 16 weeks this time I am 17 plus 5 and still spewing and struggling to eat much at all as I have aversions to almost anything but especially to things I ate early on in pregnancy.

[MotherofPearl]

I love that badge Lucinda, I think we should all have one made up! For me, one of the benefits (if you can call it that) of HG last time was that looking after a newborn seemed like a cakewalk compared to HG! People would say 'oh you must be so tired' etc but I felt great compared to HG!
Corabell and Madrigal, glad the IVs have helped to bring some relief. Hope it lasts.
Reebok, sorry that baby is misbehaving and causing you worry. 24 weeks though - that's real progress. Remember when we were at the ghastly 8 or 9 week stage?! Felt like we'd never get to this point but we have, and so will all the newbies.
How are Poppie, English, Gold, Sock faring now? Apologies if I've stupidly ignored anyone.
Icant, how's your strep throat?
Heaven, nice to have you back on the thread but so sorry to hear about the bad relapse so late on. Very discouraging I'm sure. Hope you can get your medication sorted.
I have decided to persevere with just one Ondansetron a day, but to take it later in the afternoon to really target my worst time of day. Seemed to work today: no vom. I'm reluctant to increase my dose unless I really have to, purely because of the constipation.
Good night all, hope everyone can get some good rest. Waves to Ealli, Meerka and Lucinda.

[NeedsAsockamnesty]

Apparently when my script gets collected it will have some suppositories as well.

Is it unusual to get that drug included as a don't mess about go straight to one then?

My care plan basically consists of have script for cyliclazine start taking as soon as BFP if sick more than 5 times in one day on that get switched to he other. As well as injectable anti emotics when needed. There are a few things written in the consultants letter to the midwife (who is a PITA does not believe HG exists does not get that it can hit earlier than normal MS and is not bothered if you dump a stone in weight in 3 weeks!) quite strong stuff pretty much ordering her to do certain things like refer to EPU (she refused last time and it was the HG actually taking hold strongly that meant I needed the TOP because with me if it gets bad it's very hard to manage,I once spent an entire pregnancy on a high dependancy ward in the oldern days before they would treat like they do these days)

[Heavenscent86]

Well called in sick after only five hours sleep last night due to severe nausea. I feel really guilty now. Already had about 7 weeks off with it in the early days of my pregnancy and no idea yet if I'll make it in tomorrow but I don't think I'll manage a full day on my feet at the moment.
Madrigal and corabel I do hope you have good days today.
MoP it is very discouraging. I don't mind the odd day as a relapse but this has been getting progressively worse over the last couple of weeks so I'm thinking if I don't get my tablets back it's probably not going away again Hopefulyl the consultant will agree to keep my ondansetron going. It's really good if you can manage on one ondansetron a day. Isn't it lovely not to be being sick all the time?
Sock I don't know much about suppository prescriptions but I was prescribed lactulose when I went in with constipation. Your care plan sounds reasonable. I hope your midwife will listen to your consultants requests. Some people really just don't have a clue. I've had several doctors turn round to me and say "what, you're still sick?" as if it's completely unheard of for anyone to be sick at all past 12 weeks.

[OnceAMeerNotAlwaysAMeer]

sock im so glad you have that consultant on your side. Any chance of actually being directlly under him? I don't suppose so but if was possible then that does sound better than this awful midwife. Has he considered steroids too?

I don't think it's usual at all to get suppositories with ondan, but a lot of people end up needing them. Maybe he's very experienced with HG and knows what tends to happen?

May I ask what the child care situation is like? Is it going to be possible to rest, rest, rest, rest?

Madrigal and corabel very pleased to hear you feel better after the rehydration ... Makes such a giant difference doesn't it! corabell you should see an improvement soon-ish, but it can take up to 21 weeks :( It -will- slowly get better though.

MoP yeah i found the newborn stage a total doddle compared to HG, though we were lucky enough that our two were fairly good sleepers. Good idea to take the ondan before the worst time. I found that it works quite quickly which helps.

heaven it's hard but please try not to feel guilty ... firstly it'll stress you out more and secondly, this is a baby you're growing!! You've done your absolute best to keep going but you -are- only human. take it easy today x

[Glitterball86]

Hope you ladies are feeling bettering soon!! Just to say I suffered right up until giving birth with my DS (now 4 months) but am about to start ttc number 2 so it didn't put me off and I would go through it all again !! The support on this thread was invaluable just wanted to wish you all well xxxx

[LucindaE]

Glitterball Thank you for such a lovely post, and for coming on to encourage others currently suffering. I am so glad this thread helped you.
Corabell So sorry you had to be admitted. Glad you feel a little better now.
Madrigal I hope you did get a good night's rest.
Reebok Oh dear. Mother Hen is quite anxious about your having to go back full time.
MotherofPearlThank you. I meant to say, that badge is meant to be an encouraging thought to everyone, not any indication that I make an individual claim on it (I suffered only for a short while compared to most on here, even including th short lived sufferings after birth). But it would be nice for all survivors to have one made up to flaunt at people. A fair number, though, are so traumatised that all they want to do it to forget, and that is fully understandable.
Heavenscent Don't feel guilty; the health of you and the baby comes first. A good idea to get some stronger meds, asap, as you say, before it spirals too far out of control. It is very disappointing to have to go back on them, but baby won't be harmed.
NeedAsock That midwife sounds horrendous. I know what you mean about their arguing with you about weight loss or dismissing it. Mine insisted that I had lost half the weight I knew I had, saying their scales were 'accurate', and maniuplated the figures to make it seem less dramatic. It was highly annoying. Your case sounds far worse in a far worse case. I'm glad she has to defer to the specialist. It must have been truly awful spending most of the pregnancy in hospital. Ican't has been in hospital most of the time. It must be so hard to endure and seem endless.
I hope Poppie English Gold and everyone is coping today.
Waves to Meerkaand eallison. Great advice as ever. I hope LO's are behaving after Christmas? My daughter (who is now bigger than me, but that is not so difficult) bought me a Van Gogh calender and mug amongst other things. The pleasure of thuughtful presents from daughters and sons is just one of the many things that awaits current sufferers...

[bugista]

Hi mop, Meer, lucinda and everyone. Heaven sorry to hear your sickness is creeping back up - I'm at 30 weeks now and it's annoying but def not what it was at the worst of it, which is a massive relief. Really hope yours stays under some control too and your 8 week work countdown goes quick!! Haha, I so agree it's not fair - haven't we all suffered enough!!


twodrifters so exciting, hope the birthing ball does the trick. Can't wait to hear about the new twodrifter baby!

Sorry to hear you're suffering reebok, my bub also loves being really low and it's so painful! He kicked me right in the bladder whilst I was on a packed train the other day, was very worried I was going to pee myself in front of all these commuters! End of march will come round quickly, think how far we have all come already - I remember when you were only at 8 weeks!

Waves and anti-sickness vibes to cora, Glitter, madrigal, sock, poppie etc. How are you icant, shoop, squeezed and everyone else?

[mm12Mm]

Help

Not entirely sure if I have hg or just bad morning sickness. I'm in my fifth week and felt nauseous for over a week. Since Wednesday I have been throwing up. I felt worst on Wednesday I think because I had still got food and liquid in my system and felt terrible form constant vomiting. I woke up at 4.30 am throwing up. I felt better Thursday and today but I think it is because I am only dry retching. Even a sip of water maker me sick. I tried cyclizine but throw it up. I am feeling less bad as I just heave rather than constantly vomit but am worried I have taken in virtually no fluids since Wednesday morning. I'd say I've get down occasional sips of water at best. I'm normally one to tough things out but wonder if I need to go to A&E to get rehydrated. How long do you leave it before you need a drip? I really hate hospital but don't want to harm my baby.

[MadrigalElectromotive]

Hi mm if you can't keep fluids down you need to contact your GP or A&E to be rehydrated. They will also give you iv anti emetics which should help to stabilise you a bit so you are then able to keep down fluids and oral anti emetics. I hate hospitals too, but have been admitted for fluids etc 3 times in this pregnancy and it really isn't that bad I promise! Hope you feel better soon.

[PoppieD]

Just popping in to mark place, still a wee vomit comet- but reading all this support and being able to share things I feel so much better. Sending trying not to breathe on you hugs to you all- x

[RubyReins]

Someone called?!

Sorry, been slammed at work and dealing with the annual Christmas madness. I haven't really been keeping up with the thread but hope everyone is faring as well as they can. There have been some lovely messages on here and it really is a splendid resource.

I have now had my fifth sick free day since 16 May (hurrah indeed) but was up in the middle of the night spewing so I am not sure it really counts. Kid is due on 6 Feb but I reckon (and hope!) that it will be sooner as the bump has dropped and it feels like he is attempting to burrow his way out. DMIL has money on it being the 26 Jan, classy bird that she is. Now being monitored for gestational diabetes which is a complete kick in the stones given that I can't eat very much at all. My bloods are all below 5.5 at all times though so god only knows what the deal is. I just know I am going to get the induction chat when I see the consultant next week!

Ketones are +++ (is that the right term?) but no one seems too fussed about that anymore. Tis a bloody minefield this breeding lark.

Lots of good juju to you all x

[Heavenscent86]

Hi everyone. I'm very glad I called in sick as I haven't actually moved off the sofa all day and was asleep half the morning so no way would I have managed work. Hope people are feeling a little less sick today.

[Weezie85]

I was bad first time round but didn't get diagnosed as I was overweight and midwife felt I could do with losing a few, luckily never needed hospital as I drink loads of water anyway, so must of been keeping enough down to not dehydrate. I weighed 20kg less at 41 weeks, from beginning at 8 weeks.
Anyhow, now just found out I am pregnant again, probably 4 weeks and sickness has started already. Bit scared I won't be taken seriously again. Any recommendations?

[amysmummy12345]

Hey all, just a quick place mark lucinda my due date is 9th June any news two? Its Friday reebok we made it! Had a few days supply this week to tide me over

Waves to all others and lovely new comers

[LucindaE]

Welcome to mm12m and Wedgie85.
mmq12m I so agrre with Madrigal, you are almost certainly dehydrated and it does no good for baby if it goes on too long, so do go to A and E; you'll get fluids and be prescribed stronger meds and feel a lot better, I hope. It is regarded as a medical emergency if a pregnant woman can't keep down fluids for over twenty-four hours.
Wedgie85 You lost a terrible amount of weight last time, overweight or not, that's not the point, 20 kilos did you say? That sounds like a dreadful midwife. Congratulations on managing to make it through without meds. I think you should go to GP and explain and ask for meds. Make a point of stressing the weight loss last time, too. Sorry to sound bossy, but the sooner this is treated, the less chance of its spiraling out of control. Also, do invest in some kesostix from any chemists to check for early stages of dehydration.
bugista Oh dear,but lol about The Danger of The Commute Pee.
Reebok dare I ask how work went? It must have been exhausting, I'm afraid.
Poppie Welcome over to the new thread. I'm glad (from last thread) OH sounds sympathetic, anyway.
RubyReins Ha, Ha, about MIL having a bet on your due date. Sorry to hear that vomit free day led to a disastrous night, and that you're being monitored for gestational diabetes. Good luck with consultant. About ketones, I don't fully understand the chemistry, but it seems at some point the ketones stop monitoring dehydration and start measuring long term starvation; but how long that takes, I don't know. They seem a lot less bothered about the long term starvation thing, though how they work out if you have that and become severely dehydrated, I don't know. Maybe Mother of Pearl knows, or OnceaMeer?
amysmummy Ah, we have 9 Feb and 9 June to add to due dates list.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

[LucindaE]

spandau You poor thing. The heartburn is relentless.

[TwoDrifters]

amysmummy Still no news I'm afraid. I am torn between impatiently just wanting it to happen and being absolutely petrified of what the pain is going to be like!

[OnceAMeerNotAlwaysAMeer]

mm12 and weezie85, welcome Congratulations and commiserations.

mm12 definitely go to the hospital. If you cant face firday evening then first thing tomorrow. If you get blurred vision or headaches or dry skin that you can pinch upwards and doesn't return into place properly or mental confusion, then do go tonight. Those are signs of real dehydration.

It sounds like you need stronger than cyclizine rather urgently. Have you got a partner who could print out the NICE guidelines that Lucinda linked above? //cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy They have a summary of the safe meds that can be used.

(mother hen not sure the link in the op is working, actually)

weezies, is your doctor sympathetic? it might be a very good idea to see if you can find a sympathetic one and plan how to handle the sickness, like mother Hen says

Might you be able to find childcare for little weezie? Rest, rest, rest helps.

glitterball lovely to hear your son is doing well =) if you are TTC again, it might be a good idea to plan with your doctor how to handle treatment if HG recurs. Unfortunately, it often does :/ Is your doctor sympathetic?

bugista ouch about the near-pee ... Tena lady? I resorted to that .

ruby very nice to hear from you and glad you can look at all the indignities and pain with humour!

how are you doing amys? :)

wishing everyone a quiet night and no, mother hen, the children are not behaving the older one is showing the effects of returning to school and Pipsqueak has just learned how to climb out of the child-box (forgotten what they're called in the UK, 2m square barred cage about 1m high, the little bugger climbs out of it now so there's nowhere to keep him out of the way for 5 mins!)

[immortalwife]

weezie85 seriously put your foot down and see a dr, mw can't prescribe you meds or officially diagnose you. Keep reiterating that you aren't eating. It makes no difference how much you weigh, how much you are losing matters more. I weighed 87.2kg at 5wks of pg, and now I'm 83kg at 12w. That's at lot lost. My MW is worried, even if I'm on the "marginally" heavy side.

Well whoever told me to watch out for twitching on metaclopramide sorry can't remember due to baby brain ooops I AM twitching am going to ask to switch to cyclising on Monday. Super drained still spending a lot of time in bed sleeping and not back up to full meals as smells in the fridge are putting me off. DH is super trooper. He's been is with his Crohns/chemo but we are supporting each other and struggling through. He's along sure I drink plenty and charts when I puke so he knows when to nag me into drinking rehydrate me

Hope you guys are feeling better and doing ok.

[immortalwife]

ill , my husband has been ill not is

[immortalwife]

Oh god the typos I hate being this zonked

[immortalwife]

Oh and I'm due on August 1 -for the list maker 😊