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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Am I the only one who has a drink?

169 replies

oneconfusedchick · 16/12/2015 10:27

Hi,

Sorry if this is a bit random but I was wondering whether anyone else has continued to drink through pregnancy. Please don't get me wrong I do not mean drink a lot but I have 1-2 units once a week on a Friday. I feel like I am the only one that does this! I did this with first pregnancy who is now a healthy and happy 2 year old!

I do worry though that I can't seem to find many people who still enjoy a small weekly drink!

x

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ThursdayLastWeek · 16/12/2015 16:42

Not a single woman on this thread has claimed to drink anything like an 'excessive amount' - which is what that article states might pose a threat Confused

Definite scaremongering.

5madthings · 16/12/2015 16:44

I have seen midwives, Dr's and consultants. All have said the odd small drink no more than 1-2units a week is fine. The leaflet pack I was given in my maternity notes this pregnancy (now 24wks) also gives the same advice. Along with a list of foods to be careful with etc.

NattyNatural · 16/12/2015 16:51

The article (if you read it) states the following;

However, despite the varying information out there, the safest and most universal answer to this question is that no amount of alcohol has been deemed safe during pregnancy, and if at all possible, even casual drinking should be avoided.

IMHO this seems to be a thread for people that only agree with the op rather than posting your own opinion.
I have no reason to scare or whatever you call it, just stating my opinion.
The reaction from a few people on here have been unnecessary and of a 'jump on you if you don't agree with us' Sanrio.

TinyMonkey · 16/12/2015 16:53

The NHS advice is predicated (I believe) on an attitude to women which has underlying it a belief that "The dozy cows are too stupid to know the difference between a small glass of wine once a week with a meal and binge drinking Friday through Sunday". It's part of a culture which infantalises women and doesn't believe them capable of making sensible risk assessments.

I agree, but having said that, clearly a lot of people have very little idea what one unit of alcohol consists of.

Plus some of the comments of pp 'no, didn't see the point if I couldn't get tipsy', 'wouldn't have wanted to stop once I started' reflect the predominant drinking culture in the UK. That of going out on a Fri and Sat night, often straight from work, buying rounds in the pub, and getting shitfaced.

I can sort of understand why the NHS feels that it has to take the 'not a drop of alcohol for nine months' line.

I imagine most intelligent adult women look at the facts and make an informed decision. The odd drink, particularly after the first tri, is unlikely to harm your baby. I drank a little bit during my pregnancy and enjoyed each drink I had. I didn't feel a weekly need though. Total units consumed during entire pregnancy probably about 20-25.

sparechange · 16/12/2015 17:02

Natty
a) that article comes from a US site. US sites will tell you it isn't safe to drink herbal tea, use OTC medications that are considered safe in Europe, eat ham.
In fact, another page from that site you linked to says "Whether you should be lifting during pregnancy or not is a question for your healthcare provider, but the general rule of thumb is let someone else do it for you.
Women who are at risk for premature labor may need to stop lifting objects after the first trimester."

So there you go, parents of toddlers. Don't lift them after 12 weeks Hmm americanpregnancy.org/is-it-safe/lifting-pregnancy/

There is also a difference between something that isn't proven to be dangerous, and is proven to be safe. They aren't one and the same, which is why lots of OTC meds will say not to be taken when pregnant. Not because there is any suggestion that they are dangerous, but because it can't be proven they are safe, as to do so would mean a medical trial involving pregnant women and that would be unethical.

By the same logic, there is no safe amount of orange juice to drink, because an absence of studies showing danger does not automatically mean something is safe.

What is absurd is that on that same stupid american site, it gives advice about the use of hair dyes, and says that because studies show little risk, that means they are safe. So they are applying a very inconsistent logic.

As the author of 'Expecting better' summed up much better than I can, the studies used to justify the 'drink zero alcohol' are deeply flawed and have very little scientific basis as they are based on self-reporting and don't take into account other things the women are doing, including drug taking.

Obviously there are always people who say 'why take ANY unnecessary risk', but I find they are generally people who are totally unable to quantify or understand risk

ThursdayLastWeek · 16/12/2015 17:07

From that same article Natty I took this

Generally, it is known that excessive drinking is the cause of many of the complications which can occur during pregnancy, as a result of alcohol. These risks may not be associated as strongly with occasional drinking.

I'm just pointing out that it's not as definitive as you might suggest.

NattyNatural · 16/12/2015 17:08

I just think if I did have a drink (1or2 units) and God forbid anything happened id never forgive myself.

To me it's not about managing the amount I'm willing to risk it's about not risking anything.

Tbh I'm bored of repeating myself.

I say don't ask for people's opinions if you only want an answer.

Suzietwo · 16/12/2015 17:16

the risk and the way individuals deal with risk is key to this, isnt it

also whether they are comfortable with things going wrong

sparechange · 16/12/2015 17:18

natty
And that is absolutely fine. Your body, your pregnancy, your choice.

But it is not your right to use weasel words and dodgy pseudo science to try and guilt other women into doing the same as you.
It is even less your right to try and discredit the basis on which they have formed their decision and shame them because they are doing something that you personally wouldn't do.

Junosmum · 16/12/2015 17:20

Natty- do you follow all American advice, as they say you can't eat cold-cuts such as ham or 'yellow-light' foods such as hot dogs. They also say you can eat soft cheese, which the NHS advises against.

As I said, it is a risk assessment every pregnant person has to make for Themselves- yours is that alcohol is too risky, that's fine. But someone else makes a different assessment. It's not wrong, it's just different.

No one on this thread would say that drinking a lot is good for anyone, at any time. Let alone in pregnancy.

AmusingSpoonerism · 16/12/2015 17:22

Very well said spare

AmusingSpoonerism · 16/12/2015 17:22

And juno too!

NattyNatural · 16/12/2015 17:28

Actually I didn't guilt anyone just posted my opinion and a horrible experience someone else went through and just started I didn't do it.
Maybe you're just too sensitive.
If anything the reaction I've gotten from several of you has been abusive and unnecessary.

NattyNatural · 16/12/2015 17:29

And FYI I didn't eat anything that it states unfit during pregnancy, on English and American sites.

Suzietwo · 16/12/2015 17:31

were you awfully hungry?

twirlypoo · 16/12/2015 17:31

Natty I have no problem with you having an opinion, lots of people have said up thread that they have not drank during pregnancy as they didn't want to take the risk. I respect and understand that. What I don't like is the fact that you are trying to link drinking small amounts in pregnancy and still births and saying it is no conincidence that your friend drank during pregnancy and lost her child. That judgment of her is offensive to me, especially seeing as there is no medical link between the two.

God forbid anything happened to your child, how would you feel knowing people were judging and blaming you, saying it was no suprise given that you had eaten runny eggs, or soft cheese, or ham?!

Be kind to others or walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging them.

NattyNatural · 16/12/2015 17:35

I don't judge I purely said what experience I witnessed. She said she will always carry guilt even if it had nothing to do with it.

It's a situation that made me feel id never do it.

My post was purely a this is why I didn't touch a drop, not 'I judge those who do'.

sparkly72 · 16/12/2015 17:37

I've had 4 kids and after the sickness went away I had a glass of wine 1-2 a week with each pregnancy. Kids all fine and I remained sane and sociable. I'm also a healthcare professional who is more than aware of the risks, and have cared for children born with feral alcohol syndrome. I'm still of the opinion that a small amount does more good than harm when taking everything into account.

5madthings · 16/12/2015 17:39

Some American advice is odd. And not founded on evidence, they do lots of stuff as standard such as cervix checks etc in pregnancy which isn't necessary. They also say no Sex with placenta previa which I have this preg. Nhs advice is Sex is fine unless I have bleeding then they may advise against, but it will depend on individual, no blanket ban. I know what I think is more sensible.

Anyway as an adult I have bodily autonomy I will do my research and make a choice as I do everything in life. Peoole take far greater risks in other ways, I don't care what others do but you don't get to judge me for my choices. I fucking hate the "are you allowed to do that"... Allowed by whom?!!

AngelOnTop · 16/12/2015 17:45

I had a few sips of DH's wine in the last trimester with both my pregnancies, but I went off alcohol to be honest, and it didn't feel right drinking, no matter what the advice was/is.

scarednoob · 16/12/2015 17:45

I didn't personally, nor am I drinking whilst breastfeeding. But that is precisely because I can't have just one - I don't drink v often, but when I do, it's lots of yummy vodka on the rocks. No point just having just one of those! But all my friends have had the odd glass, esp as it gets to the big day, and all their kids are fabulous.

I completely agree - they have to say no amount is found to be safe for reasons explained above, but the occasional glass won't hurt. So don't worry about it, just don't have v much!

TesticleOfObjectivity · 16/12/2015 17:53

In my first trimester I had a few drinks before I knew I was pregnant. Approx 3-4 units on about one occasion and maybe 1-2 on another (can't really remember now). When I knew I was pregnant in the second trimester I had a glass of prosecco with work, another at some point in the Christmas period and another on NYE. I don't think I drank anything in the third. I don't tend to drinjk regularly anyway, the amount I had in the first trimester was quite unusual for me really.

Junosmum · 16/12/2015 18:46

My OH doesn't like me drinking but understands that I feel a bit left out and that I like the taste of beer. Like I said up thread, I haven't really drank in pregnancy but last weekend we had friends over for a Christmas meal, lots of alcohol was consumed. I made my much loved mulled wine - OH went to the shops for wine to mull, came home with erdinger alcohol frei, nanny state very low alcohol beer by brew dog (less than 0.5%abv), alcohol free red wine to mull and alcohol free pear cider to mull. What a sweetie! I can honestly say I did not miss alcohol that day.

Junosmum · 16/12/2015 18:49

Oh, and my midwife said, "when early labour starts, run yourself a nice bath and pour yourself a large glass of your favourite tipple- it's too late to do any harm and will be out of your system by the time you breastfeed".

I suspect I will be following that advice!

scaredmum2be · 16/12/2015 18:52

I had one drink the night I got my BFP (before I took the test)
I have not had one since and am 26+4 now but only because I was never a heavy drinker before and have not wanted one. If I wanted one I would have one within limits. I will be on xmas day. I see nothing wrong with 1/2 drinks a week