Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Heaven - so glad you're getting help! The nurse today me ondansetron was like a miracle drug, but I found it just took the edge off, so don't panic if it doesn't completely heal you. They said the same things about the IV fluids, I found it made me need to pee a lot, but it didn't take away the nausea.
Hope you feel better soon.

How are you feeling now heaven?

Hoping everyone else is surviving

Hi I am feeling a little brighter thank you. Still in hospital and hoping to go home today. They did a scan for me today and baby has a strong heartbeat even with the bleeding so fingers crossed all will go well over the next few weeks. I'm now 8 weeks exactly apparently.

good to hear :) (I really don't understand how they can be so exact with dating, but they do seem certain!)

Heaven That is a very high level of ketones. I so hope you feel a lot better today, and that they take you very seriously from now on.
Waves to Meerka Mellee and everyone.

Hi everyone. Well I survived camping. The fresh air did indeed help. Just a couple of hideous vomiting sessions. Back at work today but only 2 days this week (the joys of being part time) and then our 12 week scan on Wednesday. Feeling a bit anxious about it because of the twinges I've had, but hoping I'll be able to relax a bit once it's done.

Heaven hope you feel better today. How is everyone else?

Hello everyone, just popping on to say a quick hello. Am back from long hols now. Haven't had time to do a proper read through of missed posts yet, but will do. Sorry to see there are new joiners, and hope those who are really in the thick of those awful early weeks are coping OK. Gosh Barmee, camping - hope you survived that, sounds pretty challenging. Big waves to Lucinda, Meerka, Lilac, Eallison, ElizMum, Mellee and everyone.

Sorry Barmee, somehow cross-posted with you - glad you survived the camping trip OK. Very brave of you to attempt it, but difficult to get out of these things when you've not yet announced your pregnancy. Hope your 12 week scan goes well on Wednesday.

Hi everyone I am home now. The sickness has stopped for the moment touch wood and I've tucked myself back up in bed. Getting as much rest as I can. Difficult with an 8 year old daughter. She's worried and I don't know whether to explain to her about the baby or not. Having had two miscarriages I feel very unsure about telling her now.
Glad you survived your camping trip Barmee.
How is everyone else getting on?

Had an ok weekend but can't shake off the nausea today. Had 3 violent vom-sessions since morning and so tired, not sleeping much due to SPD and painful braxton-hicks. But on a more positive note I finally found a solution to night-time heartburn/reflux: not eating/drinking anything for 4 hours before bed. Sounds simple but I've found that even tiny sips of water set off the burning at night, whereas having a completely empty stomach keeps it at bay. Made it through a whole night without getting up to vomit or take Rennies!

Heaven glad you're feeling better and out of hospital now. Get as much rest and sleep as you can.

Barmee congrats on surviving the camping trip! Hope 12-week scan and work goes ok.

Hey everyone
Barmee well done on going camping! You are so brave to go when feeling so rough!
Heaven glad you're ok
Thankyou to all those who reassured me about ondesartan. It has helped the most out of the tablets I have tried. Dr started me on stemitil which I took in my first pregnancy four years ago. I found it wasn't doing much so Dr gave me avamine which drugged me and I just couldn't keep my eyes open. Dr then put me on ondesartan 4mg 2D plus one avamine at bedtime. I haven't vomited since being on this latest concoction but still feel really unwell from 5pm until I go to sleep but vastly improved from morning until 5pm. We were thinking of not going on a planned holiday from 1st Sept but are now going to attempt it...... It involves two hour ferry journey then four hour car trip, the journey will be mainly during the evening so during my 'I feel rough' period of time so hoping I get through it ok, holiday is then at a self catering place thar will be relaxing so it's just the journey that will be the tough bit... Fingers crossed! I'm going to be clinging hold of my tablets like my life depends on it! Have become very reliant on them!
My scan at just over 11 weeks is this wed! Eeeeeee!

I'm here. Just in a very bad place physically and mentally at the moment. I don't think I am keeping the baby :'(

Hi winky
So sorry that you're feeling so rough and having such a difficult time. Do you have people there to support and help you with any day to day tasks that you are finding difficult and can you take time off work? Any alleviation of any pressure surrounding you can only help how you feel xx

Winky I couldn't get on before, to do with the sabotage thing and passwords (again). I am so sorry to hear this. Don't blame yourself for dark thoughts, feel free to vent on here. A lot of women on here have thought think at one point that they couldn't take any more at various points.Are the doctors unsympathetic, not relating to what you're going through?
BarmeeMarmee Congratulations on camping.
Freshbread Keeping my fingers crossed about that journey.
MotherofPearl Welcome back.
Waves to all. Back soon (I hope this password thing doesn't come back yet again).
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Winky, just wanted to say that there are no judgments here. There have been women on this thread who have decided not to continue with their pregnacies, and they have all my sympathy. The horrors of HG, its relentless, grinding misery, can only be understood by those who've been through it. So sorry you're in such a bad place, hope you are getting lots of support.

Thank you all. To be honest, it's more the fear of what's to come. I had (undiagnosed) PND with my daughter and I am terrified of that feeling again. I can't put myself or an innocent child through that misery. I feel awful because my daughter is excited to be a big sister but I can't risk it. I just can't. It's only since getting pregnant that all those memories of how bad it was has come flooding back. I would NEVER have planned a baby otherwise. I feel like such a fool.

I tried to go back to work yesterday but they sent me home and today is my usual day off anyway. They need me in for Saturday though so think I should take the rest of the week off to make sure I am up for it.

I ate a pasty yesterday but it came up within an hour. I am living in Haribo and lemonade. Although the lemonade isn't really staying down. I've not eaten an actual meal since Friday.

My sense of smell is through the roof and the anti sickness tablets (avomin?) make me feel like shit.

I just want it all to be over.

The avamine made me feel totally spaced and drugged, I'm currently on zofran /ondesartan but I spoke too soon about feeling better I threw up big time last night and felt rough and sick today, I'm hoping that it won't be like this every day... Maybe a hormone surge or something... Feels like the tablets have stopped working but surely not?
Winky I had post traumatic stress disorder after my last birth and ended up seeing a brilliant psychotherapist who explained all about cognitive behavioural therapy to me and talked about the guy pavlov I think who invented it by discovering that when he fed his dogs and rang a bell at the same time they soon associated the bell with food so much so that when he rang a bell without presenting the food they would salivate and act exactly like there was food there even though there wasn't. In the same way with ptsd post birth anything can trigger a reaction in you where you feel almost transported back to the traumatic situation even though it's not actually happening. So our brains are wired to react to the trigger and that becomes our dominant thought, but if we can challenge the dominant thought enough then that new thought can become our dominant thought. It all helped me at the time when I wasn't pregnant to get over my fear of visiting a friend on the birth ward where as I would panic at the thought of even going there, I had to repeat to myself "this isn't for me, this is for them, I'm fine, I don't have to be here, I can leave at any time" of course the situation is different now and I'm trying desperately not to think that far ahead as I fear I may have a wobbler nearer the time
It is possible to find a good counsellor out there, you know when you meet them. The first one I was sent to was a creepy male psychiatrist who just wanted to give me antidepressants and wasn't helpful at all, in the end I found this woman privately and knew as soon as I met her that this was what I was looking for, after just a few sessions of her just explaining to me how the brain works and actually listening to me

... Rather than asking me all about my childhood and giving me drugs I was ready to think about having another one. Then ironically I had nearly two years of not being able to get pregnant, then I finally do and feel crap and have literally been housebound for six weeks. So I know the "what have I done" feeling. Sometimes talking it through with the right person can help
I'm so sorry for rambling, really hope something I said helped
Sending you a big HUG xx

Thank you so much for the effort you have gone to posting. I am reading but just struggling to take it all in xoxo

Winky I don't think I can improve on anything Freshbread has said.
I know that Meerka had some pnd too, and I hope that she may be able to advise. Hugs.

I've just weighed myself and have lost half a stone in a couple of weeks. Should I be mentioning this to a doctor? It equates to over 6% of my weight and I'm sure I saw something somewhere on the web (oh how vague) about losing more than 5% of body weight is a concern. Am I making it up?

Might be worth seeing a Dr that you know and trust anyway and talk through how you're feeling plus mentioning the weight loss? Might at least put your mind at rest xxx

Winky I don't know much about PND but I just wanted to offer some support and hugs anyway. I hope you feel a bit brighter soon.

Winky I think you should make an emergency appointment, and stress the weight loss.Remind me the meds you are on? They certainly aren't working, and need changing. How are liquids staying down? Ice cubes, flat coke, ice lollies,jelly, the juice of tinned fruit? How is the urine checking?
Waves to everyone. I hope everyone is coping.

Winky - I lost 10% of my body weight over 4-5weeks with HG. The midwife was concerned and referred me to an OB who asked me if I had an eating disorder (?!?). The best plan is to get on medication that allows you some food and drink and then hopefully your weight loss should plateau. I started gaining weight back at 16w, reaching my pre-pregnancy weight by 24w and now at 31w I'm on track.
The midwife wasn't really concerned about my weight loss until after 12w. But it varies. Definitely recommend getting medication that helps sooner rather than later.