Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

hi amyyyy27 welcome

a lot of people find they vary from day to day. The hormones change a lot. You're actually right on time to be experiencing an improvement (HG starts to improve between week 14 - 21 and a lot of people do find week 14 a turning point).

so you're probably going through the beginning of the improvement. You can expect good days and bad for a time though!

very very occasionally something has gone wrong so it's worth ringing up the midwife if you like, simply for peace of mind. But it's much more likely you're simply .... getting better :)

oh cross post - great :)

Thanks Meerka That's exactly what she said :) I feel silly now! Its just so strange not to feel sick after 8 weeks of awfulness!

amy I too panicked when I started feeling better. You'll probably have good and bad days now, but please do be careful not to push yourself too hard!

Amy try not to worry, it's normal for it to come and go. hopefully your sickness won't come back, but try to take it easy for a few weeks. Around 12 weeks I suddenly stopped vomiting (had 5 glorious vomit-free days) and I thought hg had gone, i went back to work etc, then it came back with a vengeance and I relapsed to vomiting all day and night. I haven't had a vom-free day since though noticed a big improvement around 18 weeks.

Thank you eallison! I think I may have overdone it already with food today (it was so nice to WANT food!), I can feel a lot of acid rising! Will be more sensible from now on :)

Thanks Lilac I have my fx that it won't return but won't be expecting anything! Sorry yours came back :( how far on are you now? Is it expected to last the whole way through for you?

welcome amy glad you have turned a corner although as others have said try not to over do it! if you are on meds don't come straight off them either- really is a gradual approach of weaning- everything really- off meds and very slowly back into everyday activities. you can and do suddenly feel a lot better as hg gets under control - I never really felt well during my first hg preg but with my second pg (twins) hg was horribly severe until 15 -16 weeks- although had gradually improved from week 14 and then woke up one morning and felt fine! luckily didn't ever come back in that of at all but I stayed on meds for ages just to make sure! x

Thanks elizabeths glad to hear with your twin pg you were able to feel better! I came off the tablets a couple of weeks ago as I just couldn't keep them down! They seemed to melt in my mouth as soon as they went in and well that was it! I've been very lucky that I haven't needed more help but pretty much lived on lucozade alone for a few weeks!

Will be taking it easy from now on :)

Hi Amy good luck I hope your sickness stays away now. Do rest as much as you can and don't rush back to work. I'm 23weeks, not sure if hg will last my whole pregnancy, I've heard some people improve around the 25week mark so still hopeful.
Haven't had a vom-free day for long time now. Usually sick first thing in morning, then nausea returns in early eve and gets worse until bedtime. Often have 2 or 3 violent vom sessions in eve. Used to feel sick all night too but that stopped around 18weeks.

Quick question about cyclizine... when collecting my latest prescription the pharmacist warned me not to take it in 3rd trimester, he said it can make baby 'jumpy' and anxious!! Never heard this before and didn't realise i'd need to wean off it by 3rd trimester. Has anyone else been told this? I'm scared of coming off cyclizine, out of all the meds it helps me the most!

not heard that before about cyclizine lilac unless that is new advice? I stayed on it until 28 weeks in second pg (took myself off it as had been feeling a lot better for a while), but no one suggested any prob taking in 3rd trimester to me. first pg was on various meds throughout (mainly stemetil later on I think, but again no one advised me not to take anything later on- just worked it out myself I think!) sorry not much help- am sure meerka will be back along soon to better advise! waves to everyone hope all surviving today?

lilac I did read one of the anti emetics caused that but can't remember if it was cyclizine or not. Sorry that's not awfully helpful but maybe try Dr Google!

Sorry can cause** not always

lilac i've never heard that! If you're really nervous then speak to Dr Tony at the pregnancy sickness support line (number in forst post; leave a message and they will get back to you). There are meds you have to be careful of at certain points in preg but I have never heard it of cyclizine and tbh I don't think it's true (im not medical though). Its sister drug in the states is considered absolutely safe throughout, the only drug that is FDA category A (formally considered absolutely safe)

|Hope everyone has a peaceful night ... sometimes the best hours are the ones spent alseep!

Hope everyone is surviving this morning ...

Back to vomiting today for me. Luckily not feeling too bad!

Oops I take that back, spoke too soon :(

Sorry for long silence, head down at work. Lilac, I took cyclizine from 6 weeks into my HG pregnancy and kept on with until the very end. It certainly helped me to reduce the extreme vomiting, although even at my 'best' I still always had at least one vom a day (punctually at 5pm). GP was happy to renew the prescription and neither GP nor pharmacist ever cautioned againgst it in later pregnancy. Baby turned out fine (and I went 10 days overdue, so he was presumably pretty happy in there, not at all anxious or jumpy!). But obviously this is anecdotal.
I'm headed for my ultrasound this afternoon where they will hopefully find my 'lost' IUD and then scheduled for removal Tuesday next week. Eeek! Mixture of excitement and trepidation about what might lie ahead.
Hope everyone managing OK today. Big waves to Lucinda, Meerka, ElizMum and everyone.

Amy sorry to hear the vomiting's back. At least you had a few good days, usually a sign things will improve again soon. Are you managing to keep much down?

Relieved to hear Cyclizine can be taken all the way through, i wonder if pharmacist was confusing it with a different medication. I'll check with GP next visit.

Feeling very tired today. Only 1 vom session this morning but just feel drained and lethargic, like i want to sleep all day. DH keeps asking when I'm planning to return to work, he thinks i need more company and stimulation. I feel I just need rest, with no pressure to go anywhere or follow a schedule. I just want to stay indoors. GP signed me off until start of June so will review things in a few weeks.

When is a good time to start maternity leave? I know many people try to work as close to birth as possible but i'd rather start mine early, maybe at 32weeks?

Thanks Liliac Lucozade and a little portion of mash today. Better than nothing!

Must apologise regarding the medication... It was citalopram (anti-depressant/ anxiety meds) than can cause shakes, not an anti emetic... maybe they have mixed it up with that too.

I think maternity leave depends on when you think you can afford to go, and also how long you plan to take off as potentially will need to go back to work sooner when your baby is here. It looks like I might have to start mine early as the new government plan to make huge cuts in my area that would almost guarantee me out of a job by around October! I would think I will be around 34 weeks if that definitely comes in.

they are careful with anti-depressants later on yes, definitely. So it soudns like cyclizine is in the clear :) (anecdotally I took it the whole way through too).

MoP exiting! have they managed to find the IUD? :)

lilac I cant remember if I've recommended the HELPher forums. There's a section there specially for partners / fathers to be and other people have found it useful for getting patners to understand that exercise makes HG worse, and that rest rest rest boring rest is the best thing after meds. Might they be of any use to your husband?

Oh dear amyyy that sounds a worry about the cuts :(

Meerka, they found the little critter all right, now hopefully they'll get it out on Tuesday. :-)

Thanks Meerka yes he's been reading HelpHer forums... he says he understands need for rest but since i'm not confined to bed any more, he feels i'd be happier if went out of house more often. He eagerly showed me the page 'How Can The Father Help?' He's been following all advice on this page to the letter but has interpreted it in his own way... which explains his daily texts from work with suggestions of 'fun activities' I could be doing while he's out (his suggestions include going for walks, pregnancy yoga, meeting up with friends etc). On the advice page there's a line that says 'Encourage her to be as active as she can' and 'Try to get her out of the house for something fun, even for a short time, as often as she tolerates'. He means well but the bit about taking it slowly doesn't seem to register, he's convinced I must be getting depressed being indoors and that I need daily encouragement to go out. I've told him I appreciate him trying but that his suggestions feel patronising after a while. Ironically I'd love to do pregnancy yoga, go for walks and meet up with friends, I just feel too nauseous and drained most days!! He thinks i'd benefit from returning to work soon (on reduced hours) as he's worried i've become socially isolated.

Has anyone managed to do NCT classes with hg? DH is very very keen to do them and wants me to book them now, but I'm worried I might still be vomiting a lot by time they start in 3rd trimester. He loves groups and socialising and is keen to meet other couples. Should I go ahead and book them, and hope for the best?

hmm.

I'd be inclined to say that you are feeling pressured by him right now and by the time the NCT classes come along you're afraid he'll be even worse. (If he's pushing you now and is very keen on NCT classes, he's going to be worse when that time comes). That you don't want to take the risk because you're afraid it will just make things worse.

Then I'd see if he backs off and if he does, consider my finances. If i could afford to loose the deposit, I'd go ahead and book them .. as long as he's backed off. If you can't go, then well, you tried. If you can, it's a good bonus.

It's hard to tell which way it will go. Your sickness has lingered so it's possible that you'll be one of the people who gets it worse again in the third trim (though never as bad as the first!). On the other hand it might have gone or might be light enough that it won't stop you.

Sorry, a good bit of fence sitting there. But you can't reckon on being able to go for sure, I think myself.

lilac bless your dh and his well meaningness- like you say I think he is hand picking bits from the forum and trying to 'hurry along' your recovery whilst totally missing the point bless him. It is difficult to know how you will be in the third trimester as by is so annoyingly unpredictable. I'm with meerka maybe take a chance and book them if it will keep him happy, (check with regards to deposit/refunds etc), hopefully you don't have to pay in full up front. this may then ease the pressure.

it sounds like he is trying to get 'back to normal' and do all the 'fun' things the 'media hype' surrounding pregnancy would have us believe we are supposed to be doing, when in reality you have never felt less like being social or less able to do said activities in your life (I speak here from personal experience at least). however well meaning he is being try not to be pressured into going back to work to early- as I can assure you (and him) that it is a bad idea. however much we want to wish away hg, unfortunately it does not work like that as we know!

glad the coil turned up mother of pearl!

that explains the cyclizine confusion amy , although you would think the pharmacist would know better

waves to meerka and everyone