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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 01/05/2015 23:23

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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MotherofPearl · 06/05/2015 19:49

Welcome Lilac, lots of sympathetic current and past sufferers here to help. This thread was probably the single most important thing that got me through my HG pregnancy, because as we all know, nobody who's not been through it really understands. I think some people imply that it's a question of mind over matter, which always enrages me! Who on earth would choose to be this ill? So feel free to complain as much as you need to on here, if that helps. The isolation is tough, and it also takes its toll on relationships, even when husbands and partners are very supportive. So this an invaluable forum for finding understanding. Lucinda deserves a medal for keeping it going for years. :-)
Hope everyone doing OK this evening.

LucindaE · 06/05/2015 20:14

Lilac Welcome, and I do so hope things ease of for you soon. It's so dismal being stuck at home. It is boring, and people do find it odd when they venture out again when they feel well enough. The radio can be a godsend, as screens can be nauseating. The pains from kidneys sound awful - much sympathy. Various people have got bladder infections and it's miserable, and this sounds dismal, but I'm glad doctor sounds thorough.
MotherofPearl Thank you for lovely comments. How are things going?
Drof I don't understand that about the bile. Is it due to excess bile, I wonder? Glad you're measuring with no ketones.
elizabethsmum I think those were great posts from you.
Great advice from Meerka as ever.
Ems Those jigsaws sound a great idea, if you can bear screens.

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Hellohellohowareyou · 06/05/2015 21:00

Gaaaah the sickness is back again Angry

Melleebacca · 06/05/2015 21:05

Ems - what a fab idea! I have a full sized jigsaw that I'm trying to do but I can't hold myself up for very long to work on it. Will download a puzzle app on the iPad so I can keep my mind functioning that way.
Welcome lilac - if screens are too nauseating, you could try audiobooks. My husband swears by them but I could only listen for an hour before I ended up falling asleep. If you're struggling with insomnia, it might help.
Everyone - great news! I think I've finally turned that blessed corner. I haven't vomited since Saturday (woah!) and the nausea level is dropping to be less crippling for some time in the day. I can manage a bit more food too. Yay!

Ems10000 · 06/05/2015 22:44

mellee i can recommend jigsaw bug, you can adjust the puzzle size (number of pieces) ans its free!

Droflove · 06/05/2015 23:02

Oh Lilac, you poor thing. You will get your life back soon just hang in there.

Lucinda I only sometimes puke up yellow bitter acid stuff. I presume it is bile. Which also makes me wonder why they don't understand the physical situation with Ms better! Surely a bit if research would show what's happening in the stomach that leads to vomiting. Other times I wretch and just do like big burps so obviously some gas is being produced. The final puke I get is loads of saliva I've swallowed. But never or rarely the food I've eaten. Even if I just ate a massive plate moments earlier. It's so strange.

eallison88 · 07/05/2015 06:51

Hi to New Ladies. Sorry you need to be here but welcome.

Had 20 week scan yesterday which was lovely. I think on balance we decided 12 week is a better scan for seeing baby.

Keep ploughing on ladies. Mellee, glad you seem to have turned the corner!

elizabethsmum · 07/05/2015 09:13

yay mellee, hope improvements continue! Try not to overdo it, however tempting it is!

great news about scan eallison - such a milestone to reach halfway mark. you are right that 12 week scan best for seeing baby. I find that people are often disappointed with later scans- particularly in third trimester - as baby gets bigger it is harder to see everything as only looking a small sections of baby at one time!

waves to Lucinda, meerka, hello, motherofpearl, ems, lilac, dro, caspian sorry if I I have forgotten anyone. gentle pats and moral support for those suffering badly at the moment xx

elizabethsmum · 07/05/2015 09:17

ps- lucinda do we have an up to date list of due dates please?? I feel completely out of touch with how far along everyone is?? if I have it right- hello are you top of the list? mellee eallison & trixy (knew i'd forgotten someone) all approx 20 weeks- also lilac, everyone else earlier??

Hellohellohowareyou · 07/05/2015 09:22

I've still got nearly 7 weeks to go so there's a chance there's still someone due before me but can't remember who!!

I'm trying my hardest to sort out all the clothes we have for our new arrival but feel so sick, I just want it done now!!

Meerka · 07/05/2015 09:38

Hi lilac

the mental aspect of HG is as bad as the physical, really. I defy anyone to go through the equivilent of 20 weeks severe unrelenting seasickness without getting down and afraid ...

Can your husband look at the HelpHer forums? There is a specific support sectoin there for partners which can really help. He will have to register. here

About the agoraphobia and boredom ... yes, it's really hard to handle that too. Like being imprisoned. Would it help to kind of turn it on its head and accept that it's going to be there a while long and think of it as a Time Out? if you can accept it'll be there longer term then any improvement comes as a benefit ... and instead of thinking "omg how many more days and weeks stretching endlessly" you start to think "this is how my life is atm, but it will definitely end ".

meds wise it sounds like you're on a good set.

also post here anytime you like. there's no such thing as too much info or too much moaning. We're all going through it or have been through it and we know how lonely, miserable and isolating it is. We're here for you.

ealli lovely to hear about the scan! you know which gender mini-ealli is? :) (not asking to tell us, only if you're comfy with that!)

Agreed with MoP that lucinda is truly amazing, backed up by eliz'smum.

Hello to everyone and hope everyone is having a quiet and not too awful day ...

Our second son had his 1st birthday recently. It seems impossible it's a full year since the HG was finally over. It brought it back because like poor hello it came back at the end... But at least our Pipsqueak is healthy, very happy and growing well (and boy has he ever got sharp teeth).

Hellohellohowareyou · 07/05/2015 09:43

Thanks meerka it's just so frustrating. My husband has done an amazing job on the new nursery and I want to be able to hang her clothes up etc as at the minute there are bags and bags of stuff dotted around the room and it's stressinf me out arrrrgggghhhh

Meerka · 07/05/2015 11:08

I will borrow mother Hen's wise, wise phrase that I was reminded of the other day ... "this too shall pass". HOnestly, it will all come right hello ... and it won't take very long before it does :)

You might very well find you feel so incredibly better after the birth without the HG that you have way more energy and can actually do things like hanging up clothes. (just don't overdo it even if you're skipping round like a spring lamb, HG takes so much out of you. They had to threaten to sit on me to stop me walking around 90 mins after birth!).

eallison88 · 07/05/2015 14:44

We didn't find out what flavour we were having. Hubby was most insistent that he didn't want to know!

Hope everyone's getting thru today. I agree that the mental side is as, if not more difficult than the physical side. I've felt lower than I ever thought I could With This. And that is so difficult to deal with cos it's during a time when you feel like you should celebrating, enjoying and having a lovely glowy blossomy time. But it does pass. even if it feels like an age before it does. I'm actually starting to feel pregnant rather than ill.

Hellohellohowareyou · 07/05/2015 16:13

Been for physio today for spd, made me feel soooo sick so vomited a few times when I got home. Also got crutches Confused

6 weeks 5 days and counting....

LucindaE · 07/05/2015 17:52

HelloYou poor thing, this is torture - I do feel for you. Kalidasa and others have had to use crutches too, and it just seems to put the top hat on it. Really sorry the sickness is back. Gentle pats on offer.
Meerka and MotherofPearl Thank you so much. I think you and elizabethsmum are great...
About due dates, it does need updating, this was the last one. I posted it on the last thread, but I think everyone was too ill to take it in.
Due Dates
GettheRedOut 26 April
MuddyLettuce 22 May
HexyQueen 1 June
Ovaltine 4 June
NewShoesPlease 12 June
Caitmus 25 June

So, yes, Hello Ought to be near the top, but isn't even on it. Oh dear.
I hope everyone isn't feeling quite so bad, now...

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Hellohellohowareyou · 07/05/2015 18:12

My ELCS is booked in for 23rd june so im actually quite far down that list Grin

Droflove · 07/05/2015 19:07

I'm not due till 6th of Dec. Waaaa aaa! My lovely 7mth old is currently asleep on my shoulder. Time to put her down. Feels like only yesterday I was sick as a dog pregnant with her.

MotherofPearl · 07/05/2015 19:34

Just checking in. Eallison, congratulations on making it to the halfway mark. Great to have the 20 week scan out of the way I think.
Glad to hear that Mellee has turned a corner. Even if you still have nausea and the odd vom, having had some respite makes a big difference.
I'm still waiting for my appointment to have IUD found and removed, thanks for asking Lucinda. I like keeping up with the thead because it reminds me to be realistic about what to expect if I do fall pregnant, but also reminds me about the support there is. :-) Btw, interested to see Ovaltine on the due dates list, I'm pretty sure I remember her from the 2011 thread! I think she changed her name at some point.
Drof, I understand about the saliva/bile thing. I did vomit food, but I also had a terrible time with excess saliva and the more I swallowed it the more I vomited. At my worst I had a little lidded cup which I carried around to spit into. Terrible memory of sitting in A&E holding it under my chin and allowing saliva to just pour into it!! The worst part was that I didn't even care how disgusting I must have looked! Blush
Big waves to Meerka, Elizmum, Lucinda and all sufferers.

Melleebacca · 07/05/2015 20:19

My due date is October 25th, so I'm almost 16 weeks along. I feel like I've turned the corner but my energy levels are still ridiculously low. I had an appointment with a pregnancy homeopath yesterday who was lovely. Getting my nutrient levels tested next week and have 6 different mineral supplements to try over the coming weeks. Taste revolting though! I pretty much try anything and everything.

LucindaE · 08/05/2015 13:48

Ah, so now we have: -
Dute Dates
MuddyLettuce 22 May
HexyQueen 1 June
Ovaltine 4 June
NewShoesPlease 12 June
HelloHelloHowareYou 23 June
Caitmus 25 June
MelleBacca 25 October

Eallison I missed that about your twenty week scan, congratulations.
Things are moving, besides the baby.
MotherofPearl You are now a veteran - your experience is invaluable.

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eallison88 · 08/05/2015 15:03

I'm due 21st September

dillydollydarling · 08/05/2015 15:48

I'm due 30th August

LilacWine7 · 08/05/2015 16:20

Hi ladies, thanks for the warm welcome and all your supportive messages. It's such a relief to find people who understand what it's like living with Hg. My DH tries to understand but he doesn't really get it. Hope everyone's coping today!

My due date is 18th September

Meerka thanks for the link to HelpHer, I'll try and get DH to sign up to the dads forum. He keeps trying to push me to get out more at mo as he thinks it will speed recovery (despite every hg article telling him otherwise aargh). And he keeps going on about baby needing more fruit (!!!) even though I've told him countless times it worsens heartburn. I've been managing 2 pieces fruit a day max instead of the recommended 5, which worries him, I'm seriously tempted to peel 5 pieces and hide what i can't eat in the bin! I know he's an anxious first-time dad, and most of time he's very supportive, but sometimes his 'advice' drives me nuts! I try to be patient with him as I know he's suffering too, but when i'm feeling sick my patience wears very thin.

Thinking of this as Time Out rather than 'when will it end' really helps, I've been trying to be more accepting and just rest. Hg is a harsh lesson in patience, one thing i find hardest is not having any control over it. Normally when I'm ill I soldier on and keep going. Hg responds very differently, the more you fight the urge to rest, the more you vomit.

Today woke up in early hours with a migraine, had to have sick-bucket by bed again like in early days of hg (when i have a migraine even sitting up makes me retch as every movement of head feels jarring). Took co-codamol but lost the first 2 doses. Woke up 2 hours ago and pain is finally gone, just a mild niggly headache. I only had migraines occasionally before getting pregnant but can't identify any triggers, seems totally random. On top of normal nausea and vomiting i find migraines a nightmare as have to lie completely still in a dark room until pain goes, so feel robbed of the few activities left. I just try to sleep through it as much as possible.

On positive note I managed a brief trip to Asda yesterday Smile It's the first time I've been in a supermarket since week 14 (when had a humiliating throwing-up incident in meat aisle thanks to DH lingering over which sausages he wanted). We kept it very brief this time, just went in to get some ice-lollies and chose a quiet time of day so no queues. Feels like a big step forward! Bought 5 boxes of ice-lollies as couldn't decide which ones and i was craving them all lol. Re-discovered lots of childhood favourites like Rocket lollies and mini-milks!

Interesting others have trouble with screens too. I can't watch much TV/ look at phone for long, though seem ok reading from laptop or Kindle. Anything flickering or fast-moving makes nausea worse, adverts are a no-no! I really look forward to doing 'normal' things again once baby's born, like watching a film.

elizabethsmum · 08/05/2015 18:04

Thanks lucinda! Hope muddy, hexy, ovaltine & newshoes are all ok? I don't think we've heard from them for a while?

liliac glad you managed trip to asda- it is amazing how the most mundane of activities in normal circumstances feels like a major achievement with hg. you are totally right that it is completely unlike being able to 'soldier on' as with many illnesses - we do that and it eventually gets better- unfortunately it doesn't work like that with hg- think it's the bodies defence mechanism to send us into some sort of hibernation type state to allow the body to fully rest/recover, although it is totally counter-intuitive, frustrating and very isolating.
I know your dh must be worrying about what you are eating but baby will be doing fine (hence why you are not- baby is taking everything from you and you have no reserves). Just eat what you can manage- little and often, and if you are struggling with fruit- tinned peaches is a weird and wonderful food that most of us can seem to manage- (and not too bad if it does come back up unlike some fruits which are very acidicWink )

did you see your gp yet dro? I seem to think you were going today? Hope you got on ok?

waves to everyone Smile

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