Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

GettheRedTinselOut I've heard it's very likely as Ovaltine says, but might be worth ringng up dor for reassurance. Hugs. Very alarming. NewShoes hopefully as the scan revealed what it did, it's ok, but again it might be worth phoning up the dr's to keep them updated on what's going on.
Ovaltine Lovely to hear from you - sorry nausea still persists. Are you breast feeding as that does seem to make the symptoms linger a bit with some - it set off puking with me initially, and then later, very slight nausea (a Freudian would have a field day, but I think it was hormonal). Sorry you are ill, too, just before Christmas; so many people everywhere seem to be ill; I don't know what it is.
Jen I hope it stays at mild nausea! Happy news about SIL.
basgetti Sorry about horrible puking.
Waves to all. I hope nobody suffering too dreadfully?
xx

Hey all... I spoke too soon. Vomiting started this evening. I was drinking diet coke and it came back up.. I also haven't eaten much today which I know is bad but I can't face anything. Will try some tea and toast later.

Hope everyone else is ok...

Jen Oh dear; I don't want to be a pessimist, but have you got meds in?
I hope it is just a bad day,but...
Hope Everyone is coping.
xx

Morning all, hope you are feeling as ok as can be hoped for.

I will be venturing out the house for the first time in a week (apart from to the hospital/GP!) this evening where I have to stand up in front of a hall and give the welcome address at a carol concert. Keep everything crossed that I don't publicly humiliate myself by puking everywhere. I've had two phone calls from others saying they can't make it "as they've got a bit of a cold" - I suspect I was not massively sympathetic. At least my 12 week scan is on Friday and then we can be a bit more open as to just how awful I feel.

noroom glad scan went well. bas mixed feelings I guess about baby moving, hopefully he or she makes an appearance soon!
Hope everyone is getting by.
Been back at work two days and working again tonight and tomorrow. Have been feeling very sick, no vomiting thankfully and probably just normal morning sickness level nausea now but still. I just want it to be over. Doctor has said it probably won't go completely this pregnancy but it did with dd so I am just hoping hoping hoping. If it goes around same time as it did with dd I have another 5 weeks or so. I am also starting to get very painful spd again which is just the icing on the cake! I shouldn't complain, others have it much worse.

TallGiraffes I hope it went well with no puking. It's so difficult to talk with this, that's so brave of you. Best of luck for scan, doubt you'll need it.
MuddlyLettuce Nice to hear from you. Glad you're coping but spd sounds really horrible. No joke working even with normal ms.
xx

I'm very fed up today. By this point in all of my previous pregnancies I have been able to have a more varied diet. I may have needed to take tablets to keep food down but I was at least able to eat a range of food and a decent amount. On full dose of ondansetron I am generally not vomiting but I am struggling so much with so many foods and I have little appetite. Previously I've always done horrendous sickness then got on to an 'eating phase'. I can't even manage to cut down on the Ondansetron without non-stop vomiting. It's so, well, depressing. This evening I can feel the baby doing somersaults and feel guilty that I'd like it to move less because it's making me feel sick Ladies who have been really sick throughout, is this all normal? I feel like a bit of a freak.

NoRoom Hugs. Just seen your message. Really feel for you; from what I've seen over several years on here (though I was one of the lucky b* who was a lot better early on) I'm sure it is. It makes people feel so much worse to be being kicked in the stomach as well! I suppose the stress with this pregnancy is making the sickness much worse too, and having more lo's to car4e for?
xx

norooom I am sure it's normal to feel like that. I haven't felt baby move yet (still early) because placenta is at the front but I can imagine when your stomach is already in turmoil the last thing you need is more movement. Dp and I had a nickname for dd at this point and I am sure I felt more bonded with baby. This time I am quite detached and I feel guilty about that. Funny you mention it, I am definitely in my eating stage! Need to slow down I think. Hopefully you'll get there soon.
I feel shite today. I have finally caught the cold that dp and dd have had. Thrown up for first time in a month thanks to all the snot and tickly cough. Plus, probably as result of cold my spd is off the scale today. So, I am resting and keeping warm but feel guilty as dog and baby won't be going out.

MuddyLettuce Oh dear, that sounds nasty.
Very quiet on here at the moment; I hope that's a good sign, and not evidence that everyone is in hospital or feeling too ill to face a pc screen...
xx

I am stupid. I went Christmas shopping...

NoRoom Oh, no! One of the women on here some while ago tried that, but had to run hand to mouth out of the store at the sight of a display of Christmas puddings.
xx

noroom hope the after effects are short lived, I'm so impressed that you tried.

Well it is DS' birthday on Wednesday as well so I had to sort some stuff. I nearly broke down in tears in Tesco when I decided that I would buy him a cake rather than make and decorate one. Decorating cakes is my 'thing' so it absolutely kills me to buy Supermarket rubbish. I just had the realisation that I not only feel particularly ill but I really am ill. It was kinda depressing and liberating all at once. I'm back to lying on the sofa and Internet shopping for Christmas pressies.

On another note, has anyone had 8mg of ondansetron rather than the 4mg dosage? Do you still take it 3 times a day? Is the constipation even more ridiculous with 8mg? I'm struggling on 4mg and I'm seeing the consultant on Thursday so I want to work out if asking to up my dosage is a good idea. Alternatively I may ask to try and add in stemetil.

Oh noroom I feel your woes. I luv baking but the effort just now is too much. Poor you. Hope your internet shopping was fruitful have some

I also went Xmas shopping today as well.

Firstly I just about survived my night shift. Colleagues protected me which was nice.

However today was awful. Needed to do some Xmas/food shopping. Off I pop to local shopping centre for a wander. Find a book for OH, go stand in queue and realise if I don't sit down soon I'll faint. Flung book down and rushed out of shop (dry boaking the whole way). As you do.

Sat down for 5mins. Felt better so thought to self just do food shop
Shopping centre has a Tesco. Picked up some orange juice and felt the fainty feeling again. Quickly exited, this time buying my juice and basically went to car drank juice and drove home.

Now I'm going to assume that it was a combination of actually being quite a mild day but the shops had heating up full bung plus probably needed some more water in me.

Thankfully the fainty feelings and nausea left once I got home and force fed myself water!

Sorry for the long post. I'm being a bit diva-ish in my writing

Comeagain Brave of you, too - I just don't know how women with this do any shopping at all, least of all of food. It's a shame about baking having to go out of the window, like so many pleasurable aspects of normal life. I'm glad colleagues were supportive; is that a long shift, oh dear?
xx

Thanks LucindaE I have only been doing food shopping very very rarely. Helps if I go to aldi though as hardly any dodgy smells unlike the other supermarkets where u need to walk past fish or meat counters or the rotisserie.

Not done any other shopping at all until yesterday. But really need to finish Xmas shopping. Eek!!

Hope everyone feeling a bit better today.

I need to do Xmas shopping too most of it has been done online but I need to get some stocking fillers and for that I must exit the house and enter a shopping centre. I am putting it off until Thursday, hopefully this cold will have gone the hell away by then. My head feels like it's going to explode and honey and lemon is just not cutting it!

Hi NoRoom I took 8mg of ondansetron 3 times a day and constipation was awful. However, I have now reduced ondansetron to 4mg once a day and still suffer terrible constipation, so no difference really. Ondansetron may effect different people in different ways, but if 4mg isn't working for you then upping the dose or combining with another meds may be an option...buy a big bottle of lactulose!!

Had a really strange dream last night. I dreamt hg was back again in my third trimester and was being violently sick...it was so bad I actually woke up dry heaving and only just stopped myself vomiting!!! I think I have a serious fear of hg returning with a vengeance. I am currently feeling much better (I do have some rough days where nausea really ramps up) but I still need to take ondansetron once a day...if I miss a day I spend the next few days feeling absolutely terrible!

I also tried to explain to someone today about hg and there response was 'so essentially its just a fancy name for morning sickness' needless to say my response wasn't meek or mild (they apologised, probably through fear).

Thanks Durham for sharing your experience. I also found on 1x4mg per day that I was constipated so maybe it won't get any worse. My MiL has now turned up for a couple of days and unsurprisingly I'm feeling rubbish. I find her so stressful. I'm really looking forward to Thursday evening when she has gone home and we have done that particular duty for another few months. I'm hoping that she won't visit until after the baby is born but I suspect that I won't be that lucky.

Urg well I have a few things to report. I went to the doctor and reported my pregnancy, and we discussed medication (I am on antidepressants as well), how to try to avoid the horrendous post-natal depression I got with DS and whether I need Ondansetron. Thankfully he said just to phone when I need it and he will leave a prescription for me.

That was yesterday evening. Today I wake up, get up, get DS up and ready. Feel a bit queasy, decide to skip breakfast. In the car heading to work I vomit violently all over myself and the car. Arrive at work dripping in vomit and have to explain to Principal that I need to go home, then wait for my dad to come and get DS (he babysits while I am at work).

I'll be phoning tomorrow to ask for the ondansetron and I feel wretched.

By my calculations I am due 3rd August - so I am 7+1. What about everyone else?

Jen Oh no, how horrible - I hope you've got the Ondansetron today, and it kicks in well.
NoRoom Oh dear, a MIL as well as other things...I hope she looks after you, anyway. I don't think you're up to much preparation and she must know that...
DurhamRed Dreams about puking are foul; I had a recurrent one about puking up biscuits, very disgusting. Glad you're feeling better generally.
MuddyLettuce Oh dear, cold sounds foul...
Hope Everyone is coping. Apologies for anyone rudely ignored.
xx

Hi ladies,

After some advice re: repeat prescriptions.

I've been on Odansetron and Cyclizine since week 9 and am now approaching six months. This combo works well for me.

About week 18-20 I tried reducing and coming off the meds but when I stopped I was back to vomiting excessively again within hours and ended up back on both.

The doctor still won't prescribe more than 2 weeks at a time. Is this normal? Should I be demanding a longer prescription? Or should I be trying to wean myself off of them again? (at my surgery you barely ever see the same doctor twice so I always just get asked the same questions). At this time of year it's getting difficult to even get a phone appt. Help!

toavoidconversation I also only get a box of cyclone that lasts two weeks. I'm not 100% sure but it may be related to how many comes in a box. Will check a BNF (drug handbook) in work tonight and report back. Hmmmm but then again I get my folic acid and they give 2 boxes of that.

But you have just raised a very important point. I'll need to count my tablets and make sure I don't run out over Xmas/New year.

As for renewing your prescription, can you not just ask receptionist for repeat prescription? That's what I do. No questions asked.

The weaning thing troubles me as well but I start whole body dry heaving as soon as tablets begin to wear off so I'm not really letting myself wean properly. Going to wait til after New year when off for annual leaveand I'll do it then. No need to spoil what little Christmas dinner I'll probably managed to eat anyway what with all my weird food aversions

Not much help I'm sure but maybe someone with gp medical prescribing knowledge will come along soon

*cyclizine. Bloody auto-correct!

And strikethrough fail! I blame nightshift