Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi everyone, do you mind if I join this thread? I'm really struggling with nausea and vomiting in this, my first pregnancy, with twins. Midwife today was calling it hyperemesis when I spoke with her. Luckily I'm not showing ketones when they dipped my urine. I've been managing ice cubes and ice lollies so they have paid off.
I wondered if anyone could advise of any other things I could do to help the nauseous feeling. I'm trying to nibble at foods often, I'm wearing travel bands most of the day, I'm trying to keep fluids up with the ice lollies etc.
I'm also prescribed prochloperazine and as of today metoclopromide which the GP advised I can take alongside the former. Has anyone any experience of these mess together?
I feel quite low with this, have cried a lot today. I'm not sharing that for sympathy more just to out others in the picture. It is so hard isn't it.

Durham I'm so sad that you're still so sick. We're at a similar stage of pg and I just wish you could find the same success with some combination of drugs.

NoRoom I really hope you get some more support. I might be over stepping but your DH seems to expect an awful lot of you.

Freckle I ate tinned fruit like peaches or fruit cocktail. Mainly because it didn't hurt so badly on the way back up and just coated my throat. I didn't have any success with Metoclopramide but haven't tried Prochlorperazine.

I've got another two weeks of cyclizine and odansetrone and then I think we'll have a go at reducing again. Only being sick in the mornings now and just really tired the rest of the time.

welcome freckle and congrats .. twins too!

The sickness is horrible. You can take those meds together and what you should also be able to take with them -but maybe check with your GP first, they sound reasonably HG aware- is cyclizine. Vit B6 with it is also a good idea.

Cyclizine is an old-style anti-histamine which helps reduce nausea a bit (its the weaker of the two anti-histamines usually used). It takes a couple of days to build up the amount in your body.

metoclopramide works to empty the tummy faster so it helps with the vomming but not the nausea

I think that prochlorperazine works on the inner ear and sense of balance / perception of movement but Im not so up on that one. That too should help with the nausea a bit.

People often use complementary meds like this to reduce the nausea from several aspects.

They -are- safe btw.

Feel free to post whenever you like here :) HG is horrendous

you can take the meds either at the same time or possibly staggering them. experiment and find what works best for you.

ToAvoid the doctors have now decided on a combination of ondansetron, metoclopramide and prochlorperazine. If this doesn't work and I am admitted for the 6th time then they will consider steroid treatment. But this is only as a last resort. I'm still in hospital and still vomiting but hopefully with the right combo of meds and enough fluids I'll be OK.

Anyone know if a massive increase in nausea & vomiting is a sign of early labour? I can't keep anything down today and the midwife yesterday said to expect her any day.

Really hope this is eviction proceedings and not just a bad day...

It can be. Either that or a stomach bug. I got worse immediately before going in to labour...

Fingers crossed for you Okla, I hope things start happening soon.

Durham I hope the new drug regime works for you and you can get a break from the hospital soon.

I'm feeling irrationally upset over something so petty. When I had my booking in bloods done (I had to attend hospital for them as my veins are terrible) they messed up the form. So in August I had to have some of them redone. The MW has just called and said the back of the form wasn't filled in properly and I am going to have to have them done again. My arms are currently black and blue from the botched attempts at cannulation and taking blood last week and I'm thoroughly fed up!

I'm normally pretty stoic about needles, procedures etc but I've just had enough of it all. I need to be told to get a grip!

Hope everyone is okay today xx

In other news... I have a cleaner here deep-cleaning my bathrooms for me. I'm so happy!

NoRoom that is very exciting news! Small victories

basgetti I know how you feel about bloods and I am not looking forward to the whole palava this time round. When I was in hospital after emcs with infections and damaged bowel they put my iv in badly and my whole arm blew up! By the end of it they ran out of places to put it. My veins are awful. I had to wait for an anaesthetist every time I needed blood taken and it used to drive me insane because I wanted to be in nicu with dd not waiting for someone to take blood. AGAIN! When your arms are so bruised it can be very painful and I think you have every right to be upset. The ladies who do the bloods in my local hospital are pretty good, only once have they had to get a senior person in to try. If they are not as good where you are can you request the most senior person tries first? X

Hi muddy the anaesthetist had to cannulate me last week and she wrote in my notes that they are to be called for any future admissions. The MW is trying to chase up to see if she can find the results so they don't need redoing. I'm just fed up at the prospect of any more needles coming near me at the moment, especially as it is their error and if it had been flagged up sooner they could have done it last week when I kept having bloods done anyway.

How are you feeling today? I hope you've managed to get the cyclizine now.

Oh good basgetti hopefully they can track them down and you won't need them done again then. Fingers crossed for you.
I am feeling better mentally today, I got cyclizine yesterday evening. I am still nauseous but have kept food and water down today for the first time in weeks. The only downside is they appear to make me drowsy. As in needing toothpicks to keep eyelids open drowsy. Most unlike me. I think someone said cyclizine needs to build up in your system so am hoping that in time the nausea improves even more.
Hope everyone else is ok today. Xx

yeah, cyclizine comes with a warning not to drive if you get drowsy. Its big brother promethazine is used with pethedine to really send you to sleep =)

should take 48 or so hours to build up I believe.

I had been prescribed cyclising but it wasn't very effective for me. I didn't realise I could have stayed on that and taken prochloperazine with it.
Feeling worse and worse each day is that usual? Not sure I'm going to be able to do this to be honest.

Cyclizine I mean

im afraid it often is the case, freckle - how far on are you?

But you can ask for stronger meds and should get them. Promethazine is stronger than cyclizine; ondansetron is the strongest.

Can you go back to your doctor and say that you're near the end of your ability to cope?

Oh frecklebee what meerka says, go back to doctor, ask for more help. You can do it, and it will pass. One day at a time (and other motivational quotes that don't help at all, sorry). X

freckle rest up as much as you possibly can. Meds help but so does rest. Effort really does make the nausea worse.

Thank you meerka and muddy, trying to rest lots now. Was trying to keep going to work but have eventually given up this week and taken the rest of week off. I'm so tired and easily falling asleep but when I wake up I have the most horrendous taste in my mouth and it all starts again. I'm only 10 weeks and it started around week 5.
I know in not the only one in this position - sounds like there are loads of us suffering - it's terrible. I'm in shock at how bad it is!

Frecklebee Welcome, twins, how exciting, we've got another woman expecting them on here, and I hope she comes by soon.
I don't know if you find jelly, sips of flat coke, sips of the juice of tinned fruit or soda water any good? I swore by IronBru, nobody else seems to. Some can stand milkshakes. Cheap ice cream works for a number. Usual question, have you got kesostix to check at home for dehydration? Can get them at any chemists. Everyone on here is very nice and supportive. Never feel guilty for saying how upset you are. Who wouldn't be? An awful lot of woman on here have felt they couldn't cope at times, but they somehow did it, and you will, too. Gentle cyber pats.
DurhamRed This is your FIFTH admission? Oh, poor, poor you, it's been tough. I do hope this combination works; they do seem to be taking it very seriously at last (I'm still angry about that nurse who made that remark).
basgetti I do hope they can find them. It was probably just the last straw.
Oklahoma I do so hope it is the real thing. You've been wonderful.
Muddylettuce The spaced out feeling is common and good in a way, as it acts as a tranquilizer, so you can doze, but it does wear off gradually.
NoRoom Lovely about squeaky clean bathrooms.
NoRoom and Meerka waves.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked. Back soon.
xx

Muddlylettuce Sorry, forgot to say - that damaged bowel sounds awful. How did that happen if you don't mind saying?
xx

yeah lucinda that remark to poor durham, hard to believe isnt it?

freckle I dunno if you're up to reading, it can make you feel worse sometimes. But the good news is that most people do feel better from roughly week 18 - 22. A few feel better from week 14. A few don't feel very good from week 22 sadly but even then it's way better than the first weeks.

Even 4 weeks can feel like eternity but it does pass, minute by minute. It really does. We're here to hold your hand too, never feel you can't say how you're feeling.

okla yes I really got worse again the 2-3 weeks, almsot daily it felt worse, was dry-retching during the first hours of labour, fortunately it wore off during the later stages. So who knows, it may be the real thing =)

Hi freckle, I'm having twins too, congratulations!! I was very much in the same boat as you, really awful from about week 5. I was utterly in despair by week 8. This is my second pregnancy and I had nothing like this with my singleton, so from my experience I think I can try to offer some reassurance that it is the double hormones which are making you so sick, which in my case anyway definitely eased by week 14. With the right meds I was feeling almost normal again by then and went back to work. I'm now 18+5 and still good, fingers crossed. Still relying on meds but good. I know 4 weeks feels like ages right now but these wonderful ladies will help you through. I remember getting very down at week 12 and I remember meerka I think very caringly telling me it was only 14 more days and not to despair. I really hope that the end of the first trimester brings you some relief too, in the meantime do rest rest rest, forget work. Tiredness is the killer. Sending lots of hugs, and more congratulations! xx

Meerka 2-3 WEEKS!?! Nooooooo...