Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

I currently have DD3 sleeping on me and need to be sick. Stupid excess saliva. Nothing's ever simple.

Those of you that take ondansetron and cyclizine do you take them at the same time or stagger them? Xx

NoRoom I know how you feel, I've been vomiting on ondansetron and prochlorperazine have ketones +2 at present. I'm struggling to keep ketones down as can't seem to tolerate food and fluid. Have headache too and just feel so miserable.

I hope your find help at your gp

Hi ladies I wish I had a thread like this when I was suffering hyperemissus I was so depressed and ill had no one to talk to and sadly went on to have an abortion. I'm desperate to have another baby and we are thinking of ttc again, the hyperemesis scares me so much I got to such a low place I've never felt like that b4. I hope I can get myself through it nxt time. I wish I had made myself carry on. X

Laura this thread will support you throughout if you end up with HG again. We've all either been there or are there and have unlimited sympathy, advice and rant listening going round.

Lucibda I never did manage to solve the wee / vomit issue. Panty liners and trying to wee before puking are the best I came up with. That and doing it bottomless so at least you don't get bottoms messy. Oh the glamour...

Coilbaby I stagger. Every 4 hours during the day and night. Have an alarm set for every point.

As for weeing on the floor a bucket in the bathroom is good so you can sit on the loo and puke in the bucket. Sexy sexy!!

I'm so sorry if this sounds stupid but how have other people coped with houswork? My house is a mess, my three year olds toys are everywhere, I'm completly sofa bound, everytime I try to clear up I end up being sick for hours after.

My husband works really long hours so there isn't much he can do.

I am so ashamed at the state of my house I just want to hear that im doing okay :(

Hi, I'm just jumping in for advice.

I'm newly pregnant and a previous hyperemesis sufferer.

I've posted about it in the past, but don't want to go in to too much detail. But basically, I'm fairly certain this will be another hyperemesis pregnancy.

I'm 3+4, so obviously very early days, and no symptoms yet.

I've got all my medication from my last pregnancy. I have Ondansetron, cyclizine both orally and IM. So I intend to use it the second I need it.

My question is - I remember reading 2 years ago that starting it as a prophylactic might be useful in preventing it all together.

Does anyone have any advice or links on this?

Thank you :)

(PS I did have other meds, but these were the only one's that worked for me)

I didn't suffer from the indignity of pissing one's self while vomiting last time. But this time will be a different matter. Every time I've been sick ever since my last baby, I have pissed myself. Even if my bladder has just been emptied .

I was going to get some tena lady :( and die of embarrassment but at least I won't smell of piss?!

I keep weeing while vomiting. This is going to sound really disgusting but my sink is right next to the toilet so if I can feel pee, I sit on the loo and if I have to vomit while peeing I do it in the sink. Can't believe I'm admitting that, that is so fucking grim. I fucking hate pregnancy :(

Hi people. I don't really know if I qualify for this thread, but I need support.
I've been overly sick since about 7 weeks and have been in and out of work. Unpaid when I'm off which causes a lot of stress. Work is stressful as it is which I think is making it all worse.
Anyways I've been on cyclizine which didn't work and now I'm on metoclopramide which did well for a couple of weeks but the last week I've been vomiting totally randomly again, it kind of cripples me and exhausts me which means I'm off work again and today I literally haven't kept a thing down. I'm 12 weeks and starting to panic that it's going to last the whole pregnancy. Which again, is stressing me out. So yeah I'm not coping at all.

Hi laura, glitter, detective and kitten

laura im sorry to hear things got so bad. The illness on its own is horrendous; beign alone with it makes it even worse.

The best way to cope that I know of is to plan ahead of time. Plan the meds and speak to your doctor (if you don't have an HG friendly doctor, there are other options, post here). Get your head round the notion that you will probably be out of commission for at least 5 months. It's worth it for a baby, but you do have to accept that it will be a hard patch for some time; then it does get better. There is support and help here even in the worst of times.

glitter I'm afraid that for the duration of the worst of the sickness standards just have to be lowered. Sorry. It really gets to you, seeing everything a mess, doesn't it. I take it that employing a cleaner isn't remotely possible?

detective as far as I'm aware, the evidence is that takeing the meds pre-emptively can cushion the worst but rarely cuts it out completely. But it does significantly lessen the depths of horribleness. There's a lot of variation from person to person. You're right that it's likely to reoccur though; apparently it's 85% likely :s so yes, it's well worth taking them before you start to feel sick.

Do check the meds are still in date though. Some things you can mess around with with the dates, but some you really can't. Unless you know exactly what you're doing, use in-date meds.

kitten im sorry it's so bad. HG doesnt usually last the whole preg - between weeks 18 - 22 there is usually a significant improvement. Even if you don't feel well as such, it's lightyears better than the early weeks.

Can you go back to your doctor and ask for something more? it sounds like asking for promethazine, prochlorperazine or ondansetron is a good idea. Read up on the NICE guidelines that Mother Hen posted in the first post, they are the governmental's own best-practice body guidelines and they state that the aim of treatment is to ensure you can lead as normal a life as possible. How HG- aware and friendly is your doctor?

georgebythesea any signs of your passanger vacating the premises? hoping you're doing ok

btw, about weeing when upchucking; if you crouch down and put your crotch on the back of your ankle or heel so you're pressing down with your crotch, the pressure helps you not wee.

One of the reasons this pregnancy was planned for now is the dates on the meds funnily enough!

I might start with the oral cyclizine bang on 4 weeks. See what that does perhaps?

I do need to get some needles, syringes, and sharps box though.

I have a GP appt for another reason on Monday. If its a quick appt I could ask at the end. I'll see!

about the peeing, Detective, do you do kegels/pelvic floor exercises? there's an amazing physio on here specializes in ladies' lower regions and the pelvic floor / pee thing, she has brilliant advice

Welcome to new people, and Saturday is usually a quiet day on here.
Laura Please don't torment yourself with guilt, if you'd hadn't felt so isolated your decision might have been different, but you genuinely felt you couldn't bear any more. It's very important to forgive yourself besides trying to get pre emptive meds this time.
Glitterbug It does make it more depressing when the house is in a state, too. If as Meerka says a cleaner is out of the question (and a few women on here have had to resort to one) and there's no friends and relatives willing to step in who are nearby, possibly 024 7638 2020 might be able to find a volunteer supporter in your area who would be willing to help out. Things, as others say, will almost certainly get better. Almost nobody suffers as badly throughout as in the early weeks.
TheDetective I can't improve onMeerka's advice as ever. Invest in some kestostix too...
GettheRedOut No shame in using the sink, if there's no bowl to hand what else can you do...
KittenMama Welcome. That sounds more than bad enough to qualify as Hyperemesis. You'll find lots of support here. Like Meerka I think you need improved meds. It's very hard to work at all with this, even part time. Things will get better. My usual queston - have you got kesostix?
Oklahoma and others - the peeing is, along with the spitting, just about the last straw. Lol about Tena Lady...
ToAvoid Oh no about needing to be sick with DD3 on you. I hope you don't feel quite so bad this am?
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
Back soon.,
xx

coilbaby I took a combo of oral and im cyclizine and oral ondansetron in the end. Sometimes DH (conveniently a nurse) would do cyclizine injection and then later on I would 'top it up' with oral ondansetron. I was lucky in second preg that I was able to do this and once cyclizine was well in my system the cumulative effects of it allowed me to mainly manage on oral cyclizine between weeks 16ish-28 I think??

detective you are the only other person on thread who has had im cyclizine at home like me- it was such a godsend. like that your planning coincides with meds being in date! do sharps have expiry dates?? do u still have sharps bin as well? very well organised. not sure re pre-emptive effects although cyclizine definitely cumulative so may be worth a go- maybe kali would be better to advise on this.

welcome to all newbies - this is a totally non judgemental and supportivr thread which has helped many of us through the dark times of hyperemesis.

waves to everyone xx

The Detective, I would certainly say early meds help, I'm 8 weeks and only started vomiting a few days ago but have been prescribed cyclizine by gp. Vomiting has stopped, still feel sick but can hold down bland food and drink.

During my last pregnancy I was vomiting 20-30 times per day before I was prescribed cyclizine, at 14 weeks, so hopefully the vomiting wont be so severe this time around.

Also during first pregnancy I worked full time in a very stressful job with no cover for workload when I was off sick. I have no doubt that stress contributes to the sickness. I've been on bed rest this weekend on gp's advice which has really helped but not looking forward to going back to work on Monday.

As others have said it is so hard to be positive about pregnancy when you feel so sick

Just nipping on to say that I was admitted yesterday. I got worse when they started re-hydrating me but am doing a bit better now. I still have 3+ ketones though and struggling to eat/drink. I have almost no Internet signal so hoping that this posts...

glad you're getting help noroom, it must have been bad if you actually carried on getting worse before starting to improve.

Hope you're on a peaceful ward.

NoRoom Oh no, poor you, and I see I stpidly posted with my message of support to the wrong name ToAvoid who is hopefully a lot better.
I hope you feel a bit better now...waves to Alpha Detective eloizabethsmum Meerkaand Everyone. Apologies if I've cross posted with anyone.
xx

Evening ladies

Just popping in to say hi :) sorry to those of you that are still feeling poorly or are in hospital - lots of gentle back pats for you.

29 weeks here and had an awful experience the week before last where I threw up as I was coming up the escalator on the tube on my way to work. Fortunately I had a carrier bag with me at the time which alleviated some of the embarrassment but did mean I had to bin my lunch that was in said carrier bag.........the poor ticket man didn't really know what to do/say.

Oh and I'm totally with you all on the vomiting/peeing thing......I have discovered the only way is to sit on the bath and vomit in huge sink............nice

Elizabethsmum I insisted on it last time. Because I'm a midwife (well anyone who is a HCP and can inject safely - or even be taught to!) and knew what I was doing with it. I hope .

I haven't known anyone else to get it IM either! In fact, I'm not sure where I even got the idea from in the first place. I guess I just got sick of knowing what would work (IM and IV) and wanting to not have to get really bad for 2/3 days to get it from hospital!

I think I've made my mind up, cyclizine orally it is! Will start it on wednesday when I'll be 4 weeks on the dot. Fingers crossed.

I need to minimize the hyperemesis enough to be able to work :( I can't go off sick this time. I have some annual leave week 10, and can probably be off weeks 8-10 sick if I absolutely must, and could get emergency annual leave (I have a week left booked for feb) for week 11. (Reasons are due to mat pay - don't ask!).

I was much better by week 14 last time, and by 17 weeks I stopped vomiting. First time I was on Avomine which did nothing, and didn't push for admissions or anything, so was vomiting until 20 weeks.

I'm hoping for a better experience this time.

Morning all

Wow I missed a lot yesterday. Welcome to all the newbies. Great advice from Meerka, Lucinda & E's mum as always.

We got a cleaner to come every other week because the mess was really getting to me but I appreciate that isn't always possible.

Hope everyone is doing ok today.

Fraggle Oh, poor you, some back pats and sympathy on offer, The Public Puking Performances are SO humiliating. Thank goodness for a carrier bag. So you're travelling on the London tube? You brave thing, I used to find that stressful enough when in full health.
Oklahoma I don't want to say 'Not Long to Go Now' as I know it can drive sufferers mad to hear that. I'm glad you've got someone to help out with the cleaning.
Detective I'd forgotten you were a midwife - that must be so useful.
How difficult was it to obtain?
I hope the many new people are coping, getting meds,not feeling desperate, and the same for everyone on here, of course.
xx