Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

I'll definitely go in over the weekend if I think I need to. I'm starting to think it might be worth it to try and get a few days of feeling better. She didn't suggest doubling up, no. If it doesn't help, I might suggest that next time I go in. Thanks!

ToAvoid glad you had a good hospital visit, hope you are feeling better.

Twinkle good luck with the cyclizine, but if you need to go to hospital don't put it off. I put it off over the weekend on my last admission and by the monday I was in a pretty bad state.

Well offloaded on my GP, and all stocked up on my meds. Was feeling quite positive until I went on facebook to see that my Mum thought it would be a good idea to nominate me for the ice bucket challenge. I'm 24 weeks pregnant, suffering hyperemesis, rib pain, bad pelvic pain and possible ante natal depression. Am I wrong to be a bit pissed off? I know I posted the other day that she can make thoughtless comments but I didn't think she'd do this. Also I haven't publicly announced pregnancy to wider network and relatives due to MC and having felt so poorly, not felt confident enough yet.

So I either declare my pregnancy or look like a stingy spoilsport. I'm probably being really precious but the last thing I feel like doing is chucking icy water over myself and I just want to scream! Sorry for rant x

Basgetti I too have been nominated for the ice bucket challenge and have used my pregnancy as a way to politely decline I'm 28 weeks. If you don't want to announce your pregnancy just ignore your nomination and tell you mum why and not to keep drawing attention to it.

that's really thoughtless bas I'd seriously just ignore.

One of my friends nominated DH as I was too pregnant. He has staunchly refused! So far radio silence on FB on the issue hasn't led to any come back! So ignore ignore ignore!

Thanks guys I'm just fed up because she knows how unwell I've been feeling and this is just another example of not 'getting it.' I'll just ignore!

Hi all
I'm having a miserable moment. Am sat (laying) in a caravan in Newquay while DP and DD have headed off to the disco. I'm feeling so crap. Crap for not being able to just push through. Crap that I'm not having fun with DD. Crap that my DP is having to do everything. This is such a thoroughly miserable and lonely thing to suffer. I totally get how upset you must be with your mum bas. I guess nobody can truly comprehend what this feels like unless you're right in the middle of it. I think even at some point in the future we won't even remember how truly bad it is. But the real insensitive things people say are really staggering sometimes.
I'm trying to work up to swallowing two little tablets but know that if they make me gag I'll be sick! I really need to start taking my meds a little bit earlier as my nausea is terrible in the evenings.

Sorry to moan moan moan. I'm 12 weeks on Sunday and have spent so long convincing myself this will all ease up around then I might be heading for a fall!

And I can't find anything better to watch on TV than question of bloody sport!! Bad times.

Big hugs to everyone xxx

emsy keep on hanging in there ...it's wretched. I'm afraid the bad news is that yeah, it might take longer. Quite a few people start to improve around week 14, which is just 14 days longer. But you have support here and it does sound like your partner is supportive. It really stinks not to be able to do stuff with your small one in particular.

You're right, people have absolutely no idea unless they live with you and see you beign sick as hell and unable to do anything 22/24 hours.

Please don't apologise for moaning. This is what we're here for and speaking it out helps, a little bit. [non-scented flowers]

basgetti your mother needs a serious clue. But as others have said, posting 'nah not this time, maybe next year' might be clear enough and firm enough to discourage it. As for her cluelessness, it sounds as intractable as the hyperemesis.

Moany one from me as well I'm afraid. Another run of rough nights and feeling beaten up. 16w tomorrow. I feel really bad for someone at work that has been trying to get pregnant for a long time (and hasn't so far) - she's told people she's upset that I am not 'happier' and more 'grateful'. I really wish I could be outwardly kittens and rainbows, but I feel like hell.

I'm already on antidepressants, and my GP isn't happy to increase them. Just feel like I'm struggling a lot.

Thanks meerka, it definitely does help to get my thoughts out.

frenetic that's such a tough situation. I also have a close friend who is having fertility treatment but she lives away so it's not so bad. This is definitely not something you can hide from people who are around you such as colleagues. Perhaps the old puking in front of her trick?! I look bloody wretched throwing up. Seriously though, there's no solution to that problem. You can't be responsible for how she is feeling, and you can't fix it for her, she'd be resentful towards you if you were all on cloud 9 too. I once read a mantra you can say to yourself when dealing with a difficult situation: will this matter in a year? Maybe when she's pressuring you like that just repeat those words in your head. She'll most likely fall pregnant at some point and you'll definitely not be feeling so rough forever.

Thanks again for listening to me whine. Here's to a new day tomorrow! xx

frenetic I've said it before and I'll say it again. You TTC because you want a baby/child not because you want a horrific HG pregnancy. Of course you aren't grateful for feeling like hell you'd be seriously odd if you were.

kali and living thanks v v much for your advice. Things came to a head last night and I just couldn't stop crying. Baby was crying and wouldn't settle and I was so exhausted from lack of sleep plus simply emotionally and physically drained that I couldn't cope any more. I woke up this morning sobbing as well and decided that enough was enough and it was time to reach out and get the help that I need. Before, I kept thinking I'd wait until I felt a bit better and coukd deal with some therapy - stupid, I know. So I got in touch with my health visitor who immediately contacted my GP's practice and got me an appt for Monday (what I requested) to sort out some help quickly, plus she will visit me on Thursday. I'm not sure who I will end up seeing in terms of therapy, or for how long, or even for what sort of therapy... CBT works well for me, so I'm hoping for that. We have private health care so I'm going to find out if they will cover any appts for postnatal depression because it isn't a preexisting condition.

I feel totally rubbish but I'm so, so glad I finally reached out.

I'm also following up the links that you both suggested, so thank you very much for those.

living I'm really impressed with the availability and accessibility of great resources where you are and fingers crossed that you get seen asap. Good idea about checking resources before you moved and also about being near a teaching hospital! UCH is a teaching hospital and also has v good research going on there and UCL. .. Definitely something I miss!!!

starry, that definitely sounds like progress. Good luck.

frenetic, we've all felt like that. I think i was at my Peak at that stage.

bas I agree people should definitely think before they open their mouths.

Emsy, I like that mantra. Emsy and twinkle hope you have some relief soon.

So I'm physically ready for the baby and in some ways mentally as I've said before I'm not expecting to feel great straight away. I don't feel ready for the actual procedure and I certainly wasn't prepared to get judged for agreeing to it. Yesterday my mil said ' well dh was breech and I still managed a normal birth' I was too gobsmacked to reply but if I get that again it would be nice to have a witty retort up my sleeve.

Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Frentic the irony is I had fertility treatment to get pregnant. It was on my third cycle of clomid. It was my last fertility appt were the fertility nurse was I was dehydrated and in a bad way so marched me over to the maternity unit. I'm grateful but feel like shite. Your work pal doesn't know what she's talking about. However, she's mentally in a bad place. Might be worth sending her a link to a website about this. When I get back to work I'm going to do that to a few people.

starry well done on getting help. I hope they can help you get some of the answers you need.

starry good for you for making the call, well done.

mrsnec you're one up on me so far as I haven't yet managed to work up the courage to tell my parents or PIL that I'm having a csection. I wish I had some witty replies for you but I don't. I honestly don't buy into this 'natural birth' achievement stuff, but I can't work out how to defend my position in real life either ( how's that for a contradiction ). The best advice I've had so far is to just say 'yes, but I don't need to put myself through it, so I've decided not to'.

To avoid and frentic, it's horrible having to explain the situation to everyone. I still think that's the biggest problem with this condition.

I get the guilt thing too. I felt it as well after 5 years of ttc and an mc but it must be worse after going through fertility treatment.

Lottie, it's been easier with my dm, she was at one of my appointments where it was mentioned as a possibility. She had Cpd with me and a very difficult birth with forceps. She told me to go for it if it was offered.They both know my history too so mil's comment was uncalled for. It's another example of having to explain myself that I just don't want.

I totally agree about the natural birth achievement stuff. It was funny, the doctor was expecting an argument when he told me! He said most people would try and talk him out of it. The only problem I had with him was that he was counting my age as a factor. CPD I get, 2 previous pgs that didn't go to term I get, damaged stomach mussels from a botched laparotomy I get but at 36 I am not a geriatric mother!

On another note I'm starting to get a bit of heartburn and reflux. Not been sick in a while but still feeling nauseous. I have some omeprazole and I think I might start taking it again.

Sounds like general crapness all round. Lots of gentle hugs and sympathy.

Will catch up properly later but can't face it right now. Lying on the sofa feeling very sorry for myself.

Oklahoma and Meerka Kali and Everyone I can't apologise enough fo being so long away! I had a lovely holiday in Paris, but got conjunctivitis on the way back, and my vision was so blurred I couldn't read the screen.
It will take ages to catch up, but I can see the support has been wonderful and am sorry there is so much suffering going on. Hug and gentle pats on offer for anyone who remembers me.
Back soon.
xx

MrsNec I'm lucky because I have a friend that had HG prior to joining our company so asked her to speak to our boss whilst I've been off work. I know the boss listens to her so she made it really clear why I'm absent. Thankfully boss has taken this on board and was already pretty supportive.

As far as 'birth achievement'...what a load of wazz. Think about it... You suffer all the way through a pregnancy and grow another human being and then your judged on how the last 24 hours go?? Hahhaa. No way!

I watched a One Born Every Minute USA yesterday were a woman was in labouring with her 8th child and no epidural. When the nurse said she had had an epidural with her child the Dad turned round and said that she didn't know what it was like to give birth then. What a joke!

Who has gone to more effort.

1. The problem free pregnancy woman that has floated about glowing for 9 months and then had a natural birth.

1. The HG pregnancy woman who has struggled every step of the way and had to battle to stay healthy for nine months. Followed by a c-section??

Poor DS, he needed help in the toilet this afternoon and the smell got to me and I vomited so badly some blood came up. He was upset he thought he'd made me sick, I reassured him but I hate the fact he had to feel like that

"Birth achievement"?!!! How does that translate to other medical conditions? If you pass a kidney stone naturally is it a "kidney stone achievement", whereas if you need an operation you have failed as a human being?

Thank you guys for your continued support, it means so much to me.

lottie and mrsnec I was surprised at most peoples comments about my elcs - they were overwhelmingly positive and supportive. I've no idea why some people still think giving birth by cs is somehow cheating or having it easy or somehow not giving birth. That's such a lot of rubbish. Who cares how you give birth as long as you and the baby are safe and well.

And I've also no idea why you'd be proud of having a breech baby naturally - it's more likely to result in real trauma for you and danger to the baby!

It's a very odd debate the giving birth one. Being pregnant with twins this time I'm facing the very real possibility of a c-section and it terrifies me! I certainly don't view it as the easy option, it's a major op with a significant recovery. All being well with natural birth then I'd say a c-section is the tougher option. People are so rude to judge you.

So glad people here understand; trying to explain to others is proving futile. I think a lot of people are just expecting me to be able to ignore feeling so awful and be grateful and happy. My god, I'd LOVE to be bouncing off the walls.

16 weeks today, feeling quite queasy tonight. Starting to wonder how much of it is anxiety, because I'm expecting it to kick in at night.

Hope everyone is having an ok weekend x