Anyone due October 2004 - number 2

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Well here goes in date order:

Eyelash (age 36) - 30 September (but always very late). DS1 4 and ds2 21 months
Piglit (age ?) - 6th October First pregnancy
geoteach (age ?) - 7th October 2 children
Toots (age 37)- 8th October dd1 2
Beansprout (age ?) - 12 October first pregnancy
florenceuk (age ?) - due 15 October
Debra64 (age ?) - 20th October dd 7 ds1 6 ds2 4
Miffy2 - 20th October dd 5 ds2 2
Harman (age 34) - 22nd October dd1 6 ds2 3 dd2 2
neuman - due 26 October
Nueman (age ?) - 26 October

I don't have much information on scruff so hope she sees this to let us know how she is getting on. Also hope I haven't missed anybody off. If so let me know so I can rectify it. If any of you want to add further information such as age, children, etc also let me know.

Well done with the change Bean... good for you!

Turtle, a thought on your swinging crib idea is that the sooner your little one gets accustomed to sleeping without rocking the better your and DP nights sleep will become... unless you have house elves to help you with this at the wee small hours?

We had DS in his cot from v early on (swaddled up like a little spring roll!) and he never had any real problems... other than the normal nappy, hunger, throwing up and windy ones!

HTH.

Sooz I do have house elves.....just kidding

I think I am reading too many damn books, some are saying to do the exact opposite to others and it can be very confusing. A good friend also recommended a moses basket to begin with and put it inside the cot when the baby is sleeping and when she wakes up she will get used to being in the moses basket inside the cot.

When I referred to the swinging crib, I was referring to the 5 S's. Has anyone read that book? The theory is babies need a fourth trimester (only a man would think of this) therefore we need to mimic the womb for the first three months to make the baby think she is still inside you.

Swaddling - arms tucked in tight
side - lie on her side or stomach while awake
sucking - breast or dummy
swinging - the crib
Shooshing - loud white noise

this is to help babies with colic apparently go to sleep. Any thoughts from experienced mothers is always totally appreciated.

by the way, well done Bean, you probably feel very relieved.

Thanks Sooz and Turtle. I feel the relief that always comes with making the right decision now.

My gut instinct is that if babies needed a 4th trimester, nature would supply it. That said, I'm sure simulating womb like conditions can be comforting.

I am in danger of too much reading but have decided to view the whole damn mass of contradictory advice (books as well as a million well meaning people) as just being aware of the range of "normal" for a baby. Babies have preferences too, I understand, as do we parents, so within reason there is no "right" or "wrong".

Knowing me, if I don't try and do this, I will simply set myself up to fail. Stuff that, it all sounds hard enough as it is!!!

PS my gift to you all on this day -

Yesterday I read that if we rock backwards and forwards while on the toilet, our bladders will empty more effectively i.e. fewer trips to the toilet!! Has to be worth a try.

Lovely image I've given y'all there.

Bean thanks for the tip, I am really bored of still going to the toilet at least FOUR times a night. I don't feel like I have had a decent sleep since I got pregnant....hmmm that's cause I haven't.

I agree with you completely on the whole thing about staying within the boundaries of normal, all babies are different etc. What I don't want to find myself doing is spending a fortune on a bunch of stuff we don't need.

Oh completely Turtle, totally agree. Wasn't disputing you at all there my Turtly friend.
It's all very well babies having preferences, but could someone tell me what db's will be so I can go out and get the right stuff?!!

Which nappy? pram? sleeping arrangement? food? Argghhhh!!!

love the rocking idea, bean.

turtle, bean, I agree - sometimes you just want to stick your head back in the sand (or in turtle's case shell! ) and wait to find out what the little DB will turn out to like and not like. Information overload!

I'm completely the same even though this is DB2 - although my fears are mainly around coping with two. OMG!

Sooz you'll be great! how old is your first one?

I am with you on sticking your head in a shell

Funny how we're actually talking about babies sort of quite suddenly. We are all going to have one at some point aren't we?

Bean, if it's any use on sleeping arrangments, it was like a Ray Cooney farce round here for the first couple of months, short of dp or I sleeping in dd's cot, or anyone sleeping in the bath, I think we went through all other permutations. BTW, people who passed us on our cot bed, were very laid back about how we wouldn't need it for ages. But I actually found it quite unsettling not having dd's room all set up and established. She went in it from about three months. As for moses basket, not ruling it out this time, but dd only slept in it once, for about two hours. But then I was a flaming idiot, and did not let her cry for more than three seconds, which did not help her become at all good at settling.

Thanks turtle. DS was 2 in Feb, so will be a little over 2 & 1/2 come October. He's gorgeous, but like all 2 yr olds, fairly demanding. We'll manage, but I am pretty apprehensive about how I'll cope with a tiny baby, on top of DS's demands/refusals!

There are days when I think it'll all be fine and we'll take it in our stride. And then there are days like today, when all I can do is panic!!!!

I think mumsnet will really come into it's own for us in October, don't you...!?

In my humble experience 2 is easier than 1. DS was 26 months when DD was born and largely took it in his stride. Usually sticking up for DD's rights ' mummy 'g...'doesn't like bottles give her some of mummies milk!'
Went to my first antenatal yoga last night, definately better for mooses than the regular one.
Saw consultant today and he says I can go for normal delivery, hoorah - can't face the prospect of 6 weeks recovery with 3 kids.

Definitely Sooz. This is my first and I wonder how we will cope too. I bet we all have our own variation on this! Not that I am underestimating what having 2 or more would be like, just saying that change is looming for all of us. I have the I-don't-know-what-the-hell-I-am-doing version (this time!)

Toots - you have just outlines the sleeping/crying stuff that scares me the most I think! We don't have a room for db at the moment, so s/he is going to be pretty close at hand at all times.

Would it be reasonable to suggest on a preg thread that we stop talking about babies so we don't freak out?!!!

Sooz I couldn't agree more! I am sure it will be a lovely age difference and will work out beautifully - just remember your patience skills

The sleeping thing really does interest me, my DH thinks bubs should go into cot straight away (I think he is trying to wind me up a bit), I think it will be a couple of months but then if she adjusts to it and is happy in her own room then the sooner the better I guess. I have friends who have really shocked me, they still have their little one in their room after 8 months, some still let their 2 year old still sleep with them from day 1!! I mean come on - that's getting a bit crazy but what works for some doesn't work for others. We all have different ideas and we are all right!!

Fair comment bean. Where's that sand?!

I cheered myself up at lunchtime with a new pair of under-bump jeans and some cotton short pjs. All from JMB which I have just discovered here in jolly Croydon (I have the dubious pleasure of working here). Most delighted with my little finds.

I have some JMB pjs too! I think they are fab, even if dp does think the size of the shorts is funny. Scuse me while I just go and sort him out....

are they the blue ones with white trim, bean? cheeky dp. I've been getting grief from mine over some really stupid football commentary/questions I've been annoying him with these last few games. tee hee.

Anyway, it's time I went home. I'm sure I've worked far too hard today.

Little reminder for Sunday (as I almost forgot myself) don't forget it's Fathers Day!

Have a great weekend all.

Yep, those are the ones Sooz!

Right, off to rock backwards and forwards on the toilet , hope you all have lovely weekends lovely meece!

has anyone else experienced a slight emotional breakdown recently?

I had such a silly argument with DH on weekend which turned into a mamoth 4 hour crying session - I felt like I couldn't stop crying. DH of course freaked out and acted like a typical man not knowing why I was so hysterical, all I wanted was for him to say everything will be fine. I guess I have a fear building up inside about being pregnant, doing the right thing for the baby, delivery, labour pain, being a good mother, upset about my skin, gaining weight - all the things I know we ALL worry about. Just wish DH could of realised that

Aw Turtle, big Bean hug to you. You poor thing - and I know exactly what you mean. My car broke down last week. This instantly turned into me having to go back to work by Xmas as all the money I have saved will have to be spent on repairing this heap of junk that I want to sell anyway. I went into melt down. Dp, who is usually fantastic, did actually suggest I was over-reacting!

I think you are absolutely right, we have all sorts of fears brewing, not to mention huge changes too, and naturally, it's a bit scarey.

As my mid wife said to me last week:
"Now is the time to be a goddess, not a heroine". How good is that?!!!

xxx

Bean poor you! Cars suck and they cost a fortune. I wish so much I could be a godess

Hugs to you two, hope everything is calmer on the emotional front today. It is a big life change, plus hormones etc racing round, so no wonder it all seems a bit much at times. Get lots of rest and eat something yummy - M&S make a very nice chocolate and orange brownie!

I seem to be the opposite at the moment - from being grumpy moody cow I have become calm Buddha-like figure (literally) - which helps when DH gets stressed over the amount of junk we have to chuck out before baby comes...

BTW has anybody given up sleeping on their back? I can't sleep properly - when I lie on my side i get pins and needles and wake up halfway through the night. Maybe I need a new mattress???

I went through a calm stage which lasted about 2 days. I'm now back to worrying about everything. I also have the added bonus of a visit from mil from hell this week. I keep telling myself to relax and keep calm for db's sake. My mantra for the week is "a stressed mummy equals a stressed baby"

florence lol on the budha comment

Piglit I really hope that I am not stressing out my baby, it sure would be awful if she could feel what I have lately. I am much better now, I used to let work get to me but not any more - I am counting down the days to my mat leave

I know what you mean Turtle. Every time I get anxious or wound up about something I worry that I'm damaging db. I even worry about how bad dreams will affect him. When I'm upset or p*ssed off about something I try to speak in a sing songy voice so he can't tell that I'm stressed!! Db has been waking me up with a series of kicks at 5 every morning for 4 days now and he won't stop until I speak to him. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.