Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[Oklahoma]

I guess you have to laugh or cry really! Thank you for making me smile x

[mrsb87]

I can't stess enough how you need to keep pestering them about meds, I think I tried everything in the book. My bedside table was a veritable pharmacy nof drugs. It took 3 hospital visits in as many weeks and a refusal for them to inject cylizine (I had a horrible reaction the couple if times before!) Before they gave me ondansetron. My doctor and pharmacist have been really off about giving it to me as its not licenced for use in pregnancy. I'm sure it was meerka who told me that nothing is licensed so dh just says that when he picks it up for me.

Yep 12wks on Saturday and my scan is on Friday! Mother hen I'm only doing 2, 4 hr shifts for 2 weeks to see how I get on first. Until the end of April my manager has worked the rota so I'm not in early at all so I have time to get myself human again in the morning. I think I will be fine, but it's nice to know you're thinking of us

punk congrats on surviving another day if work! Does it feel good doing normal things again?

[Meerka]

No, nothing is licensed by the makers because even the ultra safe stuff like Diclectin (hard to get unless you're in Canada) had lawsuits brought against it by anyone who had a disabled baby, even though it's been used by apparently 33 million women and there's -no- statistical evidence that it's got any bad effects. Some babies are just born disabled, nothing to do with the meds :(

If you have a really hard time getting drugs please ring the number Mother Hen put up in the original post. You leave a message and they get back to you. The doctor there is elderly and specialized in HG (has written some papers on the subject with a very respected professor) and he can help find an HG - friendly doctor. He was even willing to look at sending ondansetron out to me here in the Netherlands.

Good luck with the scan mrsb!

[Oklahoma]

Oooh MrsB your 12 week scan how exciting!!! Hopefully that will bring back the reason we're going through all this. Easy to forget that sometimes.

Meerka are you doing up a house or something? And everyone else I will try and remember details but a lot to try and learn!

[Meerka]

yes, there is a lot ... you never think that pregnancy could be so horrible do you? all the picture generally is of glowing women goign to the gym ...

well, we didnt expect a second child after several years trying (im a bit older) so once I was well enough to do anything at all, we had to get the only spare room we have organised so our first son could move into it. which has involved quite a bit of work.

It would have been better to do it earlier on but there's nothing you can do in the worst stages of HG except lie in bed, upchuck and consider dark options, is there. So now I'm rather better in the daytimes (and even evenigns are nothing like as grim as they were with nausea) I'm getting on with what I can. They're going to induce me between 38 - 40 weeks cause the baby is fine, but the preg is heavy on me, so I'm trying to get the skirting boards and radiator-painting done now before Willem makes his grand entry.

[mrsb87]

Caught a dodgy waft downstairs and thats breakfast gone poop.

[Lottiedoubtie]

Just spent 25 mins on the phone (with one sick break) trying to get a doctors appointment, the best the 'on the day' service could do was 3.20 tomorrow! Thankfully I have just enough meds to last that long, but no idea how I'll get there as DH at work...

Still got all day to worry about that!

[LucindaE]

Lottie That's very bad - have you been unable to keep down liquids, and my usual dull question - have you got kesostx? Not sure where you live, how far away is the dr's'? A cab is clearly risky, even if you take doubled up carrier bags for obvious reasons...is there a woman's cab service as they might be a little more sympathetic? I do hope you get new meds, as others say, cyclizine is the weakest.
Oklahoma How are you today?
Petitelapin Are you home yet?
Punkstar I hope work isn't totally exhausting you?
mrsb87 Still anxious that you're threatening to return to work; can you begin part time to see how things go?
elizabeth'smum waves. Good advice as ever.
Livingzuid Hyperemesis censors any Naughty Naughty Tut Tut stuff - Victorian Heroine behaviour mandatory!
Meerka Goodness, skirting boards too. And I felt very sour when
I was 36 weeks and my OH pulled away the cooker and said it needed cleaning behind, and I had to waddle behind it!
How is Everyone?
xx

[SliceOfLime]

Wow the thread has busy since yesterday! Hi to Oklahoma and Lottie , I don't have anything to add to the great advice you've already received. I'm 20 weeks now and I think I joined this thread at 6 or 7 weeks and it felt like I would be pregnant FOREVER... But, time passes! I mentally cross off each day and week... You will get to the end of this!

As for those worrying about work, just DON'T. I was off work from 6 weeks with my first HG pregnancy, I just sent a doctor's note every two weeks. Meant I had to tell them about the baby earlier than planned but my boss & HR kept it to themselves. I tried to go back around the 20 week mark but just getting to the office made me so I'll I would just sit retching... I think I tried for 3 days then was signed off again for the rest of pregnancy.

REST REST REST is what you need, I slept badly last night and feel extra pukey today.

Meerka I'm very impressed at your DIY efforts!

[mrsb87]

But I'm so booooooooored!

[Oklahoma]

MrsB me too! I've been awake for hours but haven't made it out of bed except to puke yet. I feel vaguely human if I lie here without moving but the boredom is terrible! Anyone want to play I-spy?

[Lottiedoubtie]

Thanks guys. Cab is too risky I think, I live in a big city and they cost a fortune anyway, they'd charge me £200 if I was sick I reckon. Waiting to hear from DH if he can arrange to duck out of work early, or else I might ask a neighbour and take a sick bowl in the car. Horrible prospect, but worse would be to not get there.

The nausea is just awful today, much worse than yesterday and I thought it was bad then. Every time I think it's got the worst it can possibly get it surprises me. Trying to stay calm because if I panic it'll set my asthma off, which is was one of the things that led to hospital last weekend as I couldn't breathe either...

I'll play I-spy Okla. But be warned, I can't really move my head, so my field of vision is pretty limited.

[Oklahoma]

Oh Lottie you poor thing, big hugs and happy vibes.

I can offer 'curtains' 'duvet' and 'alarm clock' currently :)

[Lottiedoubtie]

I can add 'pillow', 'tissue' and 'phone' to that list

[LucindaE]

You poor things, oh dear!
Lottie I hope you get a lift, staggering on foot is hellish, I remember after the doctor refused meds staggering to the Acupuncturists dehydrated and doing some Public Puking in a bin on the way (they didn't have tops on the bins in Ealing, where i then lived, back then. Are liquids staying down at all? Are ice lollies, sips of flat coke and the rest all no good at all?
xx

[PunkStar]

Must have been a full moon...I slept badly and had to puke this morn. Just managed some toast and fizzy water.

In the Dark Days I usually just had telephone appointments with GP as no way I could have got there. To start with I just left messages asking for a prescription of choice. It was only when ondansetron level was required that I even spoke to anyone....

Having a bit of a bed day, reading Walking Dead graphic novels (ahem...comics) Work was easier yesterday than the week prior. I won't be increasing number of days. MrsB please be careful about work, just do what you can manage. It is bloody boring though isn't it? I do feel better about myself for going and the extra money will be nice for mat leave :-)

Oooo just remembered I have a scan tomorrow, a growth scan because of the initial malnutrition. I'm sure all will be fine. OH can't come though as Friday morning is one of his clinics so he has to be there (we will be in the same hospital though.)

[mrsb87]

I promise I will be careful, and I won't overdo it...promise promise.
Ive started doing some sewing again this week, making a tablet cover. Feeling a bit more like I want to be productive. Might make a bacon sarnie for lunch. Still craving bacon and brie baguette though. I wish I had taken full advantage before being pg!

[Lottiedoubtie]

Liquids are mostly staying down. Sipping water. Might try an ice lolly in a bit.

Lucinda I'm so glad I haven't come across a doctor who has refused me meds, in the earlier weeks I was reluctant to take anything and they were quite insisting that I should, - they were right!

[Oklahoma]

I'm working on the basis they wouldn't give us the meds if they thought there was a risk so it must be ok.

[Lottiedoubtie]

Absolutely, I was being an idiot!

[LucindaE]

Lottie The links on my blurb above will reassure you about the safety of meds used for sickness in pregancy,but you probably don't feel up to staring at a screen too much. My own dismal experience was years ago, though I'm still dismayed at how that attitude still lingers amongst some medics. Glad some liquids are staying down.
Waves one wing to everyone, leaves clucking anxiously.
xx

[LucindaE]

Punkstar Ooh, good luck for scan. Sorry about bile run..
xx

[livingzuid]

Craving roast beef and processed cheese mini baguettes with pepper on top. And still on the diet coke trip mmm. And tomato and mozzorella with balsamic vinegar.

Diet coke was about all that would cut it for me when I was at my worst. And it had to be tap with tons of ice. DH was in and out of McDonalds more times than I care to count in the first trimester.

I know the concern over medication all too well :) I see this baby as being pretty hardy if she has happily weathered all this pregnancy has thrown at her!

lottie hope you managed to get to the docs ok.

oklahoma do you have Netfllix? I sell all my bed time as a chance to catch up on my shite telly that DH hates to watch I hated it at the beginning of pregnancy as I was in bed and couldn't even have my dog to cuddle as I couldn't stand the smell of either him or DH. Now it's not so bad but I still prefer to have my dog near me far more than DH!

mrsb don't overdo it! Enjoy your 12 week scan :)

and punk so glad you got the work done :) not overdoing it either I hope?

How's the DIY meerka?

Going to head over to the plane thread with my tin foil hat at the ready. I have family and friends out there so have followed it much more closely than I would normally. My dad flies that route quite often so it is quite

[mrsb87]

Where is this plane thread? I want to have a look!

It's lovely to know you're all so concerned for me, I promise I won't push myself too hard!

Hnmmmmm roast beef! Hmmm roast beef and horseradish. . Damn you living!

[petitlapin1]

Home now and feeling a bit better. Still dont feel like getting out of bed though. Nice competent doctors this time, one even recommends getting ondansetron when I see the consultant next week. Finally!

Anxiety starting to build about parents in law coming up tomorrow for the weekend. I started moving furniture a few months ago so there's nowhere for them to sleep and i've no energy to tidy or clean the house, nor think of meals or shopping or entertaining them! Feeling quite resentful tbh...