Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

The gp's can prescribe stronger, they are just generally a bit scared to really. Ondansetron is usually used to combat chemo sickness so you can sort of understand it.

Actually, it's been used for 10+ years and a very big study found no adverse birth effects. What is not known is if there are any long term effects on the child, eg after 20 years or so. But equally, there are known risks to not being able to take enough liquid + nutrition in, in preg. So ... there are no guarentees, but it's a trade off.

Prochlorperazine ( aka stemetil, buccastem) is actually an anti-nauseant and does help some people.

Promethazine is an anti-histamine that reduces motion sickness.

Ondanstron reduces vomitting but is also supposed to help with nausea, except for motion-sickness nausea.

So there are optoins, Lottie .

If you get no joy from the doctor, it really is worth ringing the helpline number Mother Hen gave 024 7638 2020 becuase the retired but very experienced doctor there can help people get meds. They were even prepared to send ondansetron out here to the Netherlands for me.

Good luck Tally, exciting day!

I've had a pukey weekend too. At work! Absolutely stupid things would set me off like the sound of someone's chesty cough and then it was the memory of someone's breath!!! Why I was remembering someone's breath I don't know. Lemon essential oil helped me to focus, ahhhh off work for ten days now :-)
Birthday tomorrow, OH has booked me a spa day somewhere posh to take my mind off things :-)

Lottie
Loads of stuff to try....anti-emetics my GP prescribed are
Cyclizine
Stemetil
Metoclopramide
Domperidone
Ondansetron (obs advised her to do this though, was not off her own back)
I absolutely agree the nausea is worse than anything. None of the above helped me but I know for lots of people they do so definitely worth asking for.

Elizabeth'smum
You are doing a fab job :-)

I've tried both promethazine and Cyclizine neither worked and both made me dizzy in the end. With the exception of last night I haven't had any dizziness with metroclopromide, perhaps the GP would prescribe stemetil to go with the metro?

If I don't improve through today/tomorrow I'll make another appointment. Feel like I haven't been out of the doctors over the last few months, never had so many appointments!

Good luck today tally!

Hello, I'm new to this thread and feel like shit. I'm 8 weeks today with dc 2 and have been suffering since 5 weeks. I'm not actually being sick too often. But the nausea and dizzyness is killing me, not to mention the headaches and exhaustion. Literally feel like death and and terrified I'm going to be hospitalised. Some days I literally can't walk or see straight I'm so nauseous. I was never this bad with ds. He's now 17 months and cutting his molars so the nights are horrendous on top of how I already feel. DH is doing his best to help with ds but when he's ill only mummy will do and I end up snuggling him in my bed as I literally can't stand some nights. Could literally sob for feeling so rough :(

Welcome teatime, sounds horrible, have you got medication from the doctor? Lots of sympathy here.

No, haven't gone down that route yet. I was going to give it another week and then go, but I very much doubt he'll do anything. I was I'll a few times in my 1st pregnancy and he'd just politely tell me to get on with it and there's nothing to be given in pregnancy

See a different GP if that is the case, it's just not true that there is nothing to be done. See all the links and advice upthread for details.

I resisted drugs like they were the enemy up till about week 11, that was a mistake and I would have had a better time on them. Now, they aren't magic or anything, don't get me wrong (see my posts from last night!!) but they do give periods of time where you don't feel as terrible.

Hi all and tally good luck today!

tea that is not correct on medication. If you can't get medication from your idiot gp then try and see someone else or go armed with the NICE guidelines to show him what you should get. Also call the helpline that meerka mentioned above. There is help available and you should access it as soon as possible. No need to suffer, feel for you. It is miserable.

Funny about promethazine, they pescribe it for all sorts of things. Pre pregnancy it was my go to medicine for sleeping. All it did for me in pregnancy was make me feel like I'd been hit over the head with a shovel and didn't help me sleep at all.

Will reply properly later, must snooze...

And don't worry about taking medication. I've had three different things to treat in this pregnancy all which are pretty strong drugs and so far so good at 32 weeks. Babies are tougher than we give them credit for I reckon :)

Thanks everyone - it really is miserable :( I will definitely look up the guidelines and take then with me

Teatime
Sympathy...nausea is just horrible. If the nausea is so bad it is interfering with your quality of life and daily activities then it should be treated. Why should you have to feel so terrible in pregnancy? There are plenty of safe medications that can help. Defo be armed with NICE guidance knowledge for backup if you are not getting anywhere.

hello teatime, welcome. I join the chorus saying that there are perfectly safe meds to take and they help. Also the best recommendatoin is that you start them early becuase that helps cushion the worst of the nausea.

Can you take an advocate with you? Its so hard to speak clearly when you feel terrible. Ask to be recommended to a consultant if need be. And there's the helpline number too.

take care

Dd's bug!

Please please go to see your GP teatime you are at a stage where hormones are peaking and as others have said there are plenty of them are are routinely used in pregnancy with absolutely no ill effects to baby. Much better that than you ending up severely dehydrated in hospital as many of us can testify

Sorry sent before I had finished! -cont... also welcome to the thread!!

Agree that buccastem was quite helpful in easing nausea temporarily for me (if nothing else it take your mind off it for a few minutes while you are concentrated on keeping it in place under your lip!)

Sometimes other things which helped ease nausea for me were sucking fizzy cola sweets, sipping lightly flavoued, sparkling drinks- elderflower presse was the best (bottlegreen- others not as good- thats the precision of hg tastes for you!) Also sucking orange/lemon ice lollies very slowly.

Thanks for your confidence in me punk!!

Will check back later ladies xx

Should have said plenty of meds used routinely in pregnancy with no ill effects!

Evening ladies, Elizabethsmum you are doing a fab job
teatime abs lottie I can't believe your doctors are being so unhelpful! It worries me that they are so unconcerned for your wellbeing. Please keep pestering them, it seems to be the only way.

I've had a good day at work today, thoroughly enjoying being back. I seem to be on a vom once or twice a day routine at the moment. One big milestone today, I made dinner! First time in over 2 months I do think dh was pleased!

Hi all. Just to let you know that Imogen was born at 6pm this evening. 6lb 14 and doing really well!

Congratulations! beautiful name too! Enjoy!

Congratulations Tally, glad to hear you're both doing well.

Not sure if it's Hg or just regular m/s, but haven't been able to stand the thought of eating for days. Sunday I managed a veggie bacon sandwich in the morning, but then nothing else all day, and yesterday I had a bite of husband's chocolate cake, half an English breakfast muffin and 4 pasta shells. Usually I have no problem eating 3 decent meals & snacking lots!

The nausea is overwhelming, particularly when driving, but I've yet to actually be sick. Husband says that it's too early to be m/s as I'm only 4 + 3 today, but usually with stomach bugs I'd have passed it onto him by now!

Back to work today, reckon my boss will know something's up when i don't snack continuously....

Congratulations Tally, wonderful news!

tea it must be very frustrating not to be able to access any medical help. Maybe a different GP willbe more understanding?

Sasseh my nausea started at 5 weeks with DD and at 3 weeks this time and my strongest aversions to food were also very early on and only started to improve around 14wks.

Oh man, 14 weeks feels like a hell of a way away. Bring it on body...

big congratulations tally wonderful news :) Hope you are feeling good and that she gave you a bit of sleep last night. and (at last!)

Hello sasseh - can you drink enough fluids? water or juice or, well, anyting really. Fluids atm are the really vital thing. The baby will leech what it needs from your body (aren't they lovely little things) but the fluids are the really important thing.

The nausea could well be hormones, it comes from the levels of hcg hormone in your body, the one that the preg test detects. so 4 weeks isnt too early at all.

But you oculd always tell your boss it's a bug :D