Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Finch I totally agree. My mum really didn't get it until she came over this week. "You're the same colour as the walls" was my favourite quote.

Zuid that sounds terrible! Nothing quite as soul destroying as not being able to sleep. I think that is a perfectly reasonable response to DH. Is he doing anything about it?

Lottie yay for the shower (and defuzz). It really makes you feel human again!

Petit good shout on staying in bed. I can't believe you managed anything yesterday, you sounded terrible!

Heading over to my parents for "lunch" shortly. I think my mum has made chicken soup which actually sounds quite nice.

We can do this ladies!!!

Didn't they (she?) only have 1 song?!

matching their polish polka with whigfield - genius!
feel free to use Vengaboys.... Aqua... I'm A Barbie GIRL!
at ever increasing volume

Vengaboys are Dutch dontcha know. There was a top 500 on the radio here recently and they were near the top

Hmmm yes maybe a combination of Dutch and Swedish pop shite might work. I will experiment all afternoon

Well having checked out the Best of Xmas Whigfield album it is is 12 songs that all look kind of a variation on 'Saturday Night' but happily Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch have just come on. I will spend the day searching for ever increasing rubbish to play very loudly and relive my youth is called for!

oklahoma bit of a long story

DH is bless him I think a bit of a typical boy in that if he doesn't have to do something he REALLY won't do it. I am aware that's a terrible sweeping generalisation but when I look at all the men in my life past and present they all seem to share this trait, be it exes or family members. It could just be me of course! Very hard working but they all seem to focus on one thing at a time. DH cannot for the life of him multitask. He's been studying very hard for what is the Dutch equivalent of an HNC that finishes at the start of July. And any talk of flat, etc is sliding over his shoulders. Although I have been on at him for about two years, sigh.

He is really very wonderful and I am lucky but still sometimes I get thoroughly exasperated! Some stuff I can't do because as soon as I try a bit of Dutch I get blank expressions Having this baby is a good thing because it's forcing the issue on quite a lot of things. I suspect once the baby is here we will move back to the UK for a few years and I will work whilst he does OU and stays at home. I can earn three times as much there as we have right now until DH is trained up then it won't matter and we can return. I love the idea of my child being a teenager here, but also want her to experience the UK too. So my dream of being a SAHM will be on hold for a while. I just need to look at bipolar care etc and be very strategic about where we live and what type of organisation I end up. Cannot under any circumstances live in London ever again.

Sorry that was rather a dump of info lots on my mind at the moment. Not bad stuff, just lots up in the air.

Going for a Nesquick. That always helps!

Just to add, it's like if he has to do work + 1 thing like study that's fine. He can do that. Or work + strip wallpaper. But work + wallpaper + sorting out bills or doing some sanding = terrible stress! He blames it on us being skint to which I got a bit pregnancy rage and he retreated again hehehe. I mean we can afford a few tubs of paint fgs. I left him alone as this part of his course is very intense but he goes onto English soon for seven weeks (and is 100% bilingual) so I have told him that during that time I expect a LOT to be done.

One thing at a time and I am super impatient even without preggo hormones so it's been an interesting time.

And on the upside he's had a prank caller all day (he's working atm). A naked man. Called him six times and a gay guy at work seven I'm trying to understand what this naked man wants!

Oh my zuid you really do have a lot on your mind! Lol about the naked callers. I think if dh had to deal with anything like that (he's a landscape gardener!) He wouldn't recover hehe!

Well my morning out went well! I drove (for the first time in 8 wks!!) On my own down to the shop, had a good nosey around the new summer stock, tried on a few bits. Found a lovely top and cardigan which looks like it will last me a good few weeks. I tried on 2 pairs or jeggings, 1 in my normal size and the other the next size up and neither fit me!! Looks like I'm off to buy some maternity jeans tomorrow. I even got myself a cheeky subway on my way home, nomnom!

Well done lottie for enjoying your shower! I am far from that yet, still avoiding it til I really really have to.

Oh hope you manage to eat something oklahoma :)

Livingzuid It's awful about your neighbours - is there any chance of their moving as they sound as if they aren't exactly steady? Is there an equivalent of taking some 'restraining order' out on the inconsiderate people? I so agree about men not being able to do more than one task at a time.
Great idea about letting relatives see you to get an idea, if you can stand it.

I try not to alarm people by mentioning this - usually this thing goes off after the birth within twenty-four hours, but very occasionally, it can linger for a week or two. It'd gone but for heartburn with me after week fifteen but it came back when I was ill from anemia and infected stitches after the birth, and my mother, who hadn't seen me with it badly, was appalled, os much so that she seems to have deliberately forgotten years on. Don't worry about it happening to you, though, I think apart from me it's only happened to about two other people that I've hard of.

what is it about the shower? I didn't have that, thank god. is it the 'smell' of hot water? or the bathroom? or showergel? or just linked with vomming? urgh. I hate HG.

It's standing up, being hyper aware of slipping over, the warm water/steam making me feel lightheaded/faint. And the water feels like it's assaulting me (laughable as I have a crap cheapo shower, that isn't very good pressure wise!), that plus being forced to put my leaden arms above my head and then touch my head usually pushes me over the edge!

Fortunately it wasn't like that today!

I'm envious of those of you who've been out to the shops, all the people and being in the car seem like far too much, let alone willingly changing clothes in a changing room!

I may go out and get a drink in a very quiet cafe round the corner later so I can get out the house. See how I go, don't want to push my luck!

For me I hate the feeling of water on me, and also the smell of hot water. The only nice thing about it was the heat as I've been really cold in the evenings. Ive found a shower gel that I can cope with the smell of but I can't wash my face.

mrsb I just had a shower. Was wonderful. You will at least be clean after it, and imo there's nothing like crawling back into bed being all nice and showered.

chaffinch I am fine now but in my first tri it was the heat and steam from the water that got to me really bad. I'm sometimes a 2 shower a day girl so that was not fun.

lucinda I said to DH at 3.30 am that there was no way I was bringing a baby into this. To be honest, not that the baby would probably notice! but I'm sure she will pick up on my stress. It makes my HG worse that's for sure. Without boring everyone to tears there are a number of things that we can do from mid-July in terms of moving as that is when DH finishes his studies. He also finds out next month if he gets a permanent contract or not. Before then I really am stuck. Particularly as I really can't seriously apply for jobs until after the birth. I already bent meerka's virtual ear about it all So it's a matter of trying to improve the flat and do what we can to soundproof.

DH has tried three times to speak to citizen's advice as we want to find out what to do about persistent noise offenders. He had an appointment last week but it was cancelled as someone tried to stab an advisor

He's also going to call my liaison person to see as a vulnerable person what protection there is for me, is there anywhere we can go in a crisis. I get psychologically very badly affected by noise and loud music/drunk people. I don't know what the equivalent in the UK is - before I was pregnant and my care transferred to hospital he was my liaison person between me and my psychologist and psychiatrist, used to do all the appointments, chase up things etc.

Normally there is a special number you call and register the complaint. We know they have been visited about noise before (and we got a visit about our dog barking when he was a pup but fortunately they were charmed by the pooch and we made sure it never happened again) but nothing seems to register with these people.

I was puking again last night. Been several months since the nausea turned to vom. Stress and HG really is not a good combination.

we bought this house from OAPs and in the shower there's a mobility wall handle thing to use - I love it, if I feel wobbly I grab it.

understand the water thing - I couldn't BEAR touching frozen stuff urgh the freezer had little ice flakes on stuff it sent me running to hurl.

Doom okla, my mum didn't really get it until I went to visit for the weekend during the bad times. She's much better now, not a ginger suggestion in months!

Gosh living, neighbours sound vile! What about some loud boyzone ballads or kareoke take that? I always felt 8am was the peak time to get back at 3am neighbours.

Showers... My nemesis. Can't put my finger on it, but it's something to do with the warmth and the flow of water. Maybe it's sea sickness?

DH had a timely reminder this morning of severity of illness. I'm nowhere near as bad as yesterday but only because I'm limiting movement! He firmly suggested I can't spend another whole day in bed, that I'd be better if I ate the bacon sandwich he was cooking. So I got up, got dressed and vomited violently in front of him when he came to check on my progress, before sobbing "I can't cope with this." He suddenly seemed to click back into sympathetic lovely DH mode which I much prefer, and insists I stay in bed while he takes in laws out to asda to do the weekly shop with him. Fab.

petit glad he has reverted to his normal self. My DH did something similar, chiding me to go for a walk when I could barely move to get to the bathroom. I bit his head off about it and then he was nice again have perhaps growled a bit too much whilst being pregnant but that was justified!

I think they are trying to be helpful. And it really isn't helpful. So it's good he is taking things off your shoulders again.

chaffinch I had one of them in my flat in London. It was soooo handy!

I have also rediscovered my 90s and early noughties girl crush on Shirley Manson and been playing Garbage rather loudly all afternoon. But yes, I am normally up by 8 and should really blast them with it

Thinking of blasting music out loud at 8am, last summer I was up early around 7ish and enjoying a nice peaceful morning walk with the dog only to have it rudely ruined by someone deciding Simply Red would be the perfect complement with their Sunday papers. At full volume. You could hear it two streets away and loads of people sticking their head out the window trying to see who it was.

Simply Red, really?

petit I loved teaching philosophy! I taught a lot of ethics to non-philosophy students (medicine, pharmacy, bio-medical sciences, engineering, law, etc.) and almost all of them enjoyed it.

living my PhD can come gather dust in your cupboard, it's not exactly useful for anything other than academia and as for my books they are not exactly best sellers!

Neighbours sound ghastly! We're very lucky where we are that we've had no issues.

Lunch was nice. DH is depressed as Arsenal got hammered but the chicken soup went down a treat.

Shopping sounds like fun. When will I start needing maternity clothes? So far I have lost weight rather than gained any!! I'm guessing that's a common theme. And I also have abs of steel from all the vomming.

I'm quite lucky it seems, showers are heaven. It's like a 5 minute release from HG. Something about the heat I think. Would baths be any better for those of you who can't face showers? (I'm really sorry if that falls under the recommending ginger category)

And am I the only who isn't in the Netherlands?

I don't have a bath I really really wish I did!

I have more exciting news! I went out for a very late lunch, in a very quiet restaurant and enjoyed it! even if I did pick all the ham out and give it to DH because it smelt vile

Then I sat in the sunshine on a bench outside the barbers whilst DH had a hair cut. And saw two of my students, who came over for a chat and were very sweet!

Back home now, feel like I've climbed Everest I'm so knackered, but nausea is well down at a 2/3 out of 10.

I can't believe it! Is this a promised corner!?

The sun does seem to make a difference lottie! I had a wonderful trip to a pub on the river a couple of wks ago and had lunch, it was wonderful!

oklahoma we have a bath, in the in-laws garage currently waiting to be fitted. Need the money first! Its a beautiful freestanding double ended jobby. I do think it would be better than showering.

Off to see Russell Howard, wish me luck for a vom/nausea free evening!

good luck mrsb!
This could be a very nice corner to turn Lottie but be careful, it can come in waves. enjoy it while you can!!

have scarfed too much dinner now not enough room to breathe gah nice brown bun salady beefburgers and chips now zero lung space.

I am in the UK in the Midlands

Me too chaffinch!

Belly hurts from laughing so much. Managed a tasty burger and 2 cups of (postmix) coke, nommy nom! definitely bed time now!

Morning all, much happier here today. I burst into tears when I picked up dh and sobbed all over him about how nothing was ready for the baby and she is here in 10 weeks. He whisked me off to the beach for a nice walk and then dinner. We ended up in this restaurant where even he had to Google what stuff was and I had a nice steak and mash potato then to McDonald's for a chocolate sundae which is one of the few sweet things I can eat. And lots of lovely diet coke :) equilibrium has been restored!

There is a special type of loan we can take out on the flat to do it up really nicely and he said he would soundproof it as much as possible :) new Windows, central heating, work to block of noise areas, new ceilings. And new curtains :) I really want new curtains.

Funny though, I couldn't eat the boiled potato that came with dinner. The skins made me want to vom the taste was so strong. I find now I can eat mash but chips are too hard to digest.

Had a great night's sleep and even watched some of the new Game of Thrones with dh before dropping off. Normally at night I feel too sick but was better last night.

Although my root canal is really sore. I'm hoping it's a pregnancy thing and nothing else. meerka how did you get on at the dentist?

lottie that's such an achievement! It makes you feel a bit human to do something like that.

mrsb was it funny then :) I like his show on telly the news one.

Oaklahoma dh was at that game.

chaffinch we are having burgers for dinner yum yum.

Have good days everyone!