Wading into spring with the all new shiny Posifrickentivity thread. PG after MC? Dive right in!

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All comers welcome, we're a rolling thread. Newbies, middles and oldies alike, join here for hand holding, knicker checking and general batshit craziness!

congratulations on the birth of your baby girl liesl! Can't wait to hear all about it, there is a postgraduate thread and a secret FB group if you're interested in joining (the latter is way more active)

great scan news ark, hamster, fedup and squiz! I hope I haven't forgotten anyone!

mummy it's great to see you back and so far along in your pregnancy!

jbrd glad the bleeding has stopped, good luck with your scan on Saturday - I have everything crossed for you (I'm also into "game of thrones" lately! total escapism, isn't it?)

aoife yay for your booking in appointment! So it's official now :-) I'm wishing you a smooth and uneventful pregnancy!

london I found your post about your grandmother's ring very moving - it's lovely that you're wearing it and it's helping you keep things into perspective

kjh5, I hope you don't go into labour this week! I doubt you will but understand why you're worried. Saying that, most women I know - including myself - have had very different pregnancies from their mothers

pixie (your post about your DH made me laugh) and saggy (enjoy your Christmas dinner tonight, it sounds lovely) you are so close and have dates to look forward to, yay!!

We are well, DD1 has just got over chicken pox, it was tricky being stuck at home for 10 days but we managed. Baby Elsie is doing well, her weight is great, she is very chatty and smiley and will be 4 months old on Sunday

hi to everyone I haven't namechecked & love to you all! x

Some advice from a friend of mine who did a PhD in pain. 1) when weighing up taking tablets versus tolerating pain, it must be remembered that pain itself puts stress on the body, so there is risk involved in not taking those tablets as well as taking them.
2) pain pathways can become sensitized by pain. So if you don't treat the pain there is a chance you will be more likely to feel that pain in the future.
3) avoidance/prevention of pain is much more effective than dealing with pain once it's arrived. So if you are going to take a paracetamol do it early.

I think I could count on my fingers the number of tablets I take in a year, but I do now dose up early. Food for thought ladies.

Welcome Dav sorry you had a tough time previously, 2014 is surely your year. You can join me in I Feel Shit club if you like?! I am 6+5 today and feeling awwwwwful. But yes no bleeds. So mustn't grumble.

Penguin Your day of busy baby-ness sounds great. Must make such a difference that your GP has experienced SPD.

kjh I hope you get some answers re your SPD as your physio does sound a bit limited in what she's done for you. Fingers x you can get more help from another one.

Thank you Pentagon. Awww lovely Elsie. She sounds a right cutie! Sorry about the chicken pox but guess it's best your DD has now had it.

Aoife that is very interesting. I always regret it if I don't take a painkiller immediately as the pain only ever gets worse and just end up doing it 40 mins later, which is plain daft!

I keep crying today for no reason. There is definately a baby in here.

welcome dav really hope this is your year. You've come to the right place for posifrickingtivity

hi pentagon nice to hear from you! can't believe Elsie is 4 months already! glad you're over the chickenpox ok, it must be hard being housebound for so long.

kjh this is the first time I've seen the physio since December, it was a specific appointment to discuss birth positions. She has never done any manipulation or anything for spd, just advised on how to move and handed out belts previously so I can't say she has ever alleviated anything! she was so helpful on the positions though, if you like I can pm you some info or if it helps others next time I'm on the computer I'll post here about them. She was also v helpful regarding pain relief, she advised using gas and air earlier than you think you need it as in her experience (3 kids) it took up to half an hour for it to be effective plus it takes a while to get used to using it properly to get full effect. Therefore she said danger is if you leave it until you're really struggling with pain you won't be able to concentrate on learning how to use it and you may be breathing too shallowly etc for it to be effective. Last time I really struggled with it and felt v little pain relief from it (only confusion!) so will be putting in a bit of practice earlier on this time! glad she told me that though as otherwise I would have left it as late as possible!

aoife that is really useful information on pain relief, thanks! I've succombed to nightly paracetamol as I figured it's better to get some sleep than none.

aiofe I can agree with all the points about pain, expecially the third one. I ended up having to call the out of hours doctor a few weeks ago because I didn't stay on top of taking the paracetamol in time for my tooth ache. Not a good experience.
DH doesn't like taking painkillers, but I'm happy to pop the pills if necessary, no point trying to be a hero.

Pentagon Lovely to hear from you, glad that everything seems to be going well (apart from the CP, obviously). I'm a recent convert to GoT, but I love it. Only just got season 3, since we don't have Sky and don't want to rip bad quality versions of the internet, we always have to wait a whole year for the DVD to come out. Think this time I'll try to find a friend with Sky who has a DVD recorder...

Welcome dav Here's hoping that 2014 is our year! My EDD is Oct 4.

Sorry for all of you suffering with SPD. I only had it very mildly with DS, and only towards the end, but that was bad enough!

Spotting has stopped completely now, yay! And I'm very proud of myself for dragging myself to the gym last night Really achey now, but it was worth it, just to get rid of some of the tensions.

PGP sufferers, have you considered an osteopath instead of a physio? I know a great one, who sadly I can't afford who friends have had great results from.
Pentagon Keep some seats warm, there's a few of us on our way up to post grads!
Dav fingers crossed for you. Hang on to the fact that each and every one of us has had at least one loss, we all understand and take a look at the stats list and check out all of our thread babies. This is a great thread to be on. x

hello

really pleased for the good scans fedup and squiz, and glad to hear spotting has stopped jbrd.

Last night I tried drinking a cold glass of orange juice and a cold glass of water. I had both, and then lay down for a bit. I think I might have felt something. It was hard to tell as for some reason I felt like my heart was pounding when I lay down, and it almost felt like I could feel my own heart beating in my stomach! But I did feel a few flutters and pops which is what I've felt before. I think I also felt them today when out having a hot chocolate. I had to leave our office as there was a horrible chemical smell throughout our floor and I didn't want to sit in it. It's gone now though.

So tonight I will try drinking some cold coke. Hopefully I won't get the pounding, that was really odd.

PGP sufferers, have you considered an osteopath instead of a physio? I know a great one, who sadly I can't afford who friends have had great results from.
Pentagon Keep some seats warm, there's a few of us on our way up to post grads!
Dav fingers crossed for you. Hang on to the fact that each and every one of us has had at least one loss, we all understand and take a look at the stats list and check out all of our thread babies. This is a great thread to be on. x

saggy I used a chiropractor after my first pregnancy to put me back together and in my mmc pregnancy when spd started super early but I've got a bit of a mental block about it now after the mmc. I know rationally it won't have had anything to do with it but the 2 are linked in my mind now. I have been given the details of a good local osteopath though so will probably book in after baby to be put back together. I just don't fancy anything too physical while baby is inside

Nerdy that's exactly how the movements first felt for me at the beginning I didn't always feel them regularly because the baby isn't that big and it all depends on the way they are facing etc but once you've identified them you'll notice they get stronger as the weeks go on. Now mine gives me such a booting my entire tummy jumps and wobbles - much to DH's amusement!

saggy hadn't thought about an osteo... I had one for my back problems but they didn't really do that much. Might be an option though! Can anyone tell me if there is anything to worry about with SPD and birth? Is it more of a positional pain management thing or could you damage the joint further in the process?

Just had an email from HR helpfully informing me I'm supposed to be maternity leave from... today. Given that they've so far managed to screw up every detail of this process (including setting up the incorrect mat leave payments) I strongly suspect their calculations are up the creek and I need to stay at work for another week at least!

Afternoon all. Glad to see we're all well :-)

Pregnancy symptoms are back full force today, feeling sick as a dog and so very tired. It's half term though which probably has something to do with it!

Have my scan on wednesday next week and am shitting a brick about it.
My last pregnancy was a missed miscarriage so I'm so scared they will scan me and there will be nothing there / will be behind dates / will be dead etc.

DH thinks I'm crazy as I'm showing already (11+3 and normally a size 14 but 5 foot 3) he's convinced it's going to be boy/girl twins. Usually if people say things like that I dismiss them but DH is very accurate. Out of the last 20 people we know to have babies, he's got the gender right 9 times, even when one girl was told she was having a girl he was insistent she would have a boy and she did. He predicted DS right and at the start of the last pregnancy he said he had a bad feeling and boom, miscarriage.

Just a overly worried mum to be. Going to ask the scanning lady to tell me ASAP if the baby has a heart beat and is right size so I can relax xx

Sorry that should say out of the last 10 people not 20 lol x

Can I join?

Only 7 weeks pg but have had 2mc and 1mmc in the past 18mths. Really want this one to work out and of course only my OH knows I'm pg at this stage, so feeling a bit isolated. Can't bring myself to book appt with midwife / for scan, I'm terrified. Is that normal?

wigwam welcome to the group. We're all as crazy and worried as each other so you will fit right in ;-)

So sorry of your losses :-(

Everything your saying is totally normal and understandable given what you've been through xx

Thank you MrsG much appreciated!

Hi all! Appointment with the psych nurse went well. She reckons, unsurprisingly, that I have anxiety following recurrent miscarriage. She thinks I will respond well the CBT as I'm a sensible person who likes to do purposeful things. :)

Met my mum for lunch afterwards - salt beef from Selfridges ooh lala (being anxious queen obvs I checked, yes pastrami and salt beef is allowed) which I promptly threw up in Selfridges bog. Classy!.

squiz that's so good your psych appointment went well, I hoped you would find it better than expected. I've heard really positive things about CBT (and know a couple of friends are on waiting list for it) so hopefully that will really help

welcome wigwam that's a totally normal response, it is so hard to be calm about starting a new pregnancy after any loss let alone multiple mcs. Really really hope this pregnancy goes smoothly for you.

Also, mrsgiraffe can I just say your DH has an impressive track record for guessing gender!

and penguin very interested to hear more about your homebirth plans. It's something that in an alternate universe I would have loved to try, it sounds so lovely.

Ok ladies massively swollen feet and hands starting to swell - I've not been on my feet at all for days because of SPD - should I get it checked?

Fod get the midwives on the blower. Sounds like a medical opinion would be useful.

Newbies welcome. Pull up a chair, spill your anxieties. You will get support when you need it (e.g. scan tomorrow and you are freaking out) you may also occasionally get slapped with a wet fish (e.g. I've eaten a prawn cocktail crisp and think I may have damaged the baby).

mrsgirafe I too am pondering twinnage. I have too much of a gut to be showing yet but I am pretty sure I can feel my uterus already. My Tits also look as though they are gearing up to feed a football team.

pixielady I know right. I never normally would believe "psychic" stuff but he's always damn accurate with babies it's scary x

Thanks for all the good wishes, it's nice to read positive stuff & know I am not crazy by myself . I will definitely join you in the I Feel Shit club london, I am coming down with my second cold in two months. I haven't got another scan lined up yet fod my EPAC clinic were utter crap this time round refusing to book me in advance (I work shifts so can't get time off easily), ended up paying private for my 6 wk one, will prob pay for another in a few wks as it was so much nicer ( & not internal which is always a bonus). Have never got this far before so have no idea what I am supposed to do or have

dav that's really pants! Is there no way you can go private? There are lots of scan places about - we paid £50 for ours - best £50 we ever spent xx

Sorry dav just reread your post - ignore my last comment ;( totally agree tho we found it far more comforting with the private place and felt really taken care of

Fod have you been checked out? Please do.