Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

crazy I had the same trouble with dinners and family. quite often I would just sit dinner out - could sometimes manage some for lunch next day. or on good days I could manage oven cook stuff and kids had more chips than normal - oven cook fish, stuff like that.

Hello ladies. I'm crashing into your thread all teary and (sorry) heaving. I know I have to admit to HG now, and to ask for some advice.

I'm 6+5. This is my second pg. I had HG with DS (age 3) all the way through the pg and since then, I've had three mc. With the mc I was slightly sick with each one, but this time, I'm vomiting like I did with DS and I'm trying to see that as a good sign.

I tick all the boxes. I know you on the excess saliva, the almost being able to control when to vomit (I need to go throw up my toast fairly soon but it can wait til I've finished typing). I physically shudder and recoil involuntarily when I smell something, see food, someone mentions food out loud. I am very hungry - my tummy rumbles so loudly, DS laughs but I either can't face eating anything (I end up in tears) or I do and then I'll bring it all back up again sooner or later. I'm on the heavier side and it weighed myself for ages but I probably should as I know this must be having an effect. I'm acidy and am being tortured by heartburn. Gaviscon obviously makes me puke. I have ranitidine but I have heartburn more... The dry retching wakes DP every morning...

I've tried very hard not to take any medicines for HG. There's no medals I know but there's a minor birth defect that runs in my family and I'm just uncomfortable taking them . Saying that, I did try them with DS - Cyclizine didn't help and I didn't get better with prochlorperizine either. This time, I popped to the doctors earlier this week to ask for a ketone check as I was so thirsty and unable to keep fluids down and she said there were ketones but not too bad and handed over prochlorperizine to me on the spot.

I obviously have to go back and have a proper chat with the gp and this is where I hoped you wise and unfortunately experienced ladies could advise me. Carrying on like I did with DS isn't much of an option - I sat on the sofa zombie died all day and sipping water with tears running down my face. I'm also tired, hungry, thirsty and very weepy so need to know what I want as much as possible before I go in cos she doesn't listen to me and I come out so angry I could burst. So. Do you think I could ask for ketosticks to be prescribed, and then a medicine to take if I become moderately ketonic? Would that work?

Lastly, I'm meant to be cooking Christmas dinner for mil next week . Any ideas for excuses? I would explain properly but in the past, she told me that I shouldn't say I'm pg before twelve weeks - that turned into my first mc...

For those moments when you really can't take any more and you wanna scream, but that would set off more retching. Just to vicariously be really bad tempered:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1878119-Preggo-Rage

*zombie died = zombiefied

Although I did feel like a dead zombie

Oh gosh, iworry, sorry I had not seen your post.

So sorry it's so bad. It sounds like the emotional side is nearly as bad as the physical and we all understand that really well :s

We're here whenever you want to talk, moan or plain cry.

Doctors not listening is the absolute pits, it makes you so much lonelier and unhelped :/ How about writing down what you need to say beforehand? it helps you keep it clear in your head and if worst comes to worst, you can take the paper in with you.

Meerka how bloody obvious and how daft am I not to think of writing it down! I knew someone would have a sensible idea! Thank you.

Thanks lucinda.

iworry you sound like you're really up against it, I do hope your next trip to the docs is more successful and you get some useful support. I don't know what the deal is with these DHs who just don't get it, it's annoying that its something they'll never directly experience.

We're having my parents and PIL over on Xmas day and I'm really dreading the whole cooking side of it. DH has said he'll do the lion's share but I know the house will stink still. We haven't told them I'm pg yet tho so I'm looking forward to that part at least.

There's 30 of us going for a curry on Saturday night and I m not looking forward to that AT ALL. God help me. Table is booked for 8pm which is about the time I start to get sleepy so have no idea how I'm going to cope with nibbling throughout the evening to stave off the nausea until we go out and then facing a sodding curry buffet whilst pretending to have a drink!

crazythursday - I applaud you for even considering going to a curry buffet. I shudder at the thought and have a lot of respect for you attempting it! If you really really don't fancy it can you wiggle out of it or would that cause more problems than it would solve?

aaahhhh iworry
take a deep breath and congratulations! bfp how marvellous. I have 2 dc and had 2 mc, sometimes it works, and sadly sometimes it doesn't.. but like you the more I vomited the more positive I felt.

HG knocks you ruddy sideways, there's lots links from Lucinda & Meerka and the gang on the thread, get yourself some ketostix from the chemist then you can check yourself everyday if you want

sip ice cold water, ice cubes, lollies, anything to get a wee bit of moisture inside.

doctors are generally idiotic tits with our condition, so brace yourself and grit teeth. writing down your full symptoms helps, work your way through the drugs they prescribe - there aren't any links to any birth defects as far as Ive read

crazythurs may be bestto stick to a plate of chips! or naan bread, mmmmmmmmmm... and reice'd be nice but NOT reheated buffet rice, avoid at all costs, must be fresh cooked

iworry it's funny how the most simple every day tasks become huge hurdles isn't it?? Well actually it's not funny at all come to think of it. I have though of blowing the meal out but I've been really flakey with a few things recently and just think I'd be seen as really lame. I think I'll be able to carry off the no drinking thing as there will be so many people I hope it'll be too hectic to notice, plus I'm going to use the "I've had a cold/bug in the last week so am obv run down" excuse if any wiseguys pipe up.

Ugh.

chaffinch idiotic tits just about sums it up. I had an early scan this week, referred by the miscarriage consultant, and the midwife was so understanding that I cried - she offered to arrange another scan for next Friday just to keep an eye on things (foetal pole was measuring small) - but I didn't have to ask and she was nice about it. Surely the long term c

Ahem. Surely the long term consequences of kindness far outweigh the need to tell us to buck up?

yep crazy you can't drink if you're on antibiotics, for example...and then you'd feel pretty pants and tired...

yet remember the inverse rule of parties
the more you anticipate, the crapper it will be
the more you dread the better it will be

you'll probably have a ball

lucky you with early scans, iworry I had one with ds but this time when I got admitted in wk 9 and asked if I could have an early scan due to HG & mC history a snotty MW said 'we only give scans to those in pain or bleeding. that is not you. there is no need''

Iworry
Welcome and sorry you need to be here.
I really feel your pain. I could have screamed after my first telephone consult with the GP this time. Well, I sobbed more accurately....

The list is a good idea, no one except someone who has been through HG or closely witnessed it has a beeping clue.
I tried cyclizine, stemetil and metoclopramide before stepping up to ondansetron, the first three did nothing but I know some people do get relief with them.
If you have anyone that can go to the appointment with you as your advocate, that is another option. It's hard to stand up for yourself when you feel so rotten.

I would get as much help with childcare as possible, I have a one year old and I can last two hours with him before I just need to curl up.... Don't expect too much of yourself. I did last time and I made my own life hell. Rest as much as you can. Give people info from Pregnancy Sickness Support so they can understand what HG is. If anyone tells you to eat ginger or crackers they need re-educating!

I've had a shitty day.....
Barely able to enter the kitchen, smells, horrid stuff in the fridge. Repeated vomiting, The Little Boy frightened by said vom fest and screamed place down. Had to cuddle him, vomit repeatedly and deal with piercing scream in ear.
Brother collected TLB for the day. Slept pretty much most of the afternoon which was sweet respite.
OH off next week, this will be amazing, will no longer be alone in the pit. He has OCD tendencies so anything offensive in kitchen will be removed and wiped several hundred times with a special cloth.

Bah, humbug....I have managed some on line purchases this week so at least there are presents. But we are banning in laws from coming now. MIL is a feeder and food hoarder. I've thrown mouldy oranges out before to have her pull them out of the bin. Can't cope with the food, people or conversation. Will be the three of us. I think I could eat a Yorkshire pudding and a roast tattie.
Impressed with anyone who can cook and plan for Christmas....

Rant over. Tomorrow will be better. Has to be.... Looking after TLB all day.

Good luck today punkstar - it certainly is exhausting with a wee

Gah. Phone. Premature posting again...

It certainly is exhausting with a wee one to watch - my DS has been occupied with the iPad far too much but when you don't want to move even your head, it does work (lazy mum confession there )

I'm sure these threads have had more than their fair share of ginger rage - if one more person suggests it....

I'm so thirsty. What I wouldn't give to have a nice long hot / cold / anything drink and to enjoy it. sips of
Mineral water as tap water is undrinkable - and I can even taste differences between the brands of mineral water which means that I'm stuck with six bottles of posh yet revolting Evian when I really want the pound land cheap stuff as it tastes nicer..

And I'm fixating on dinner with mil on Boxing Day as I'm meant to be cooking. DP won't take DS and leave me alone for the day as it means he'll be trying to look after an over excited boy while trying to cook for six with a hurt arm, I don't want him to leave me with DS on my own, and I don't want to go. DP has started rumours of me being randomly unwell so we may just back out totally...

gah the extra pressures of Christmas! thank god Im not cooking/hosting anyone this year

Just dashing on to welcome IWorry. I am outraged that as this is your SECOND bout of Hyperemesis, they GP's aren't taking it more seriously - and prescribing stronger drugs, giving you kesostix, etc. I can only echo the advcice of others. There's a wonderful helpline on 024 7638 2020 where they will help you get meds, too, and so agree, to get kesostix from a chemists. It can take as little as twelve hours to get seriously dehydrated, as you know from before. Don't blame yourself, your weight, for this condition - lots of people who are underweight get it and have no weight to lose.
I so feel for Everyone with this during this season - parties, festive food,and Punkstar That sounds like a truly nightmare day, poor you, hugs. It must be awful when the poor LO gets distraught, but he won't be permanently traumatised, I promise.
Back soon.
xx

Meerka
Checked out the preggo rage thread. AMAZING.
It's good to know there are other haters too.
Why did no one ever tell me that it is so (insert many swear words here) shit?
It's like some big conspiracy.
A couple of friends came out of the woodwork AFTER I was pregnant. Fair play one of them had pre-eclampsia and had to stay in hospital for a month. She refused to see anyone in the latter stages. She also made her husband get a vasectomy one month postnatal.
Everyone else seems normal and happy and goes on flaming holiday! Can you imagine? The airport, sitting on a plane? Gah, I can't even go in the flipping kitchen without an incident.
Surviving with TLB....OH will be here in approx three hours to bring some supplies and relieve me of duty.

iworry, what lucinda says, that number is absolutely great. You have to leave a message and they will get back to you, but the elderly, experienced doctor there is just amazing.

punkstar hehe some of those women are a bit intimidating :D Hope you're suriving today ok.

IWorry
I would so be sacking off Boxing Day.
I don't think OH has informed the in-laws yet about our cancellation of Christmas visit but I don't think he can cope with them either (which makes me feel better)
His parents are quite opinionated and believe everything The Daily Fail tells them.

Argh. The taaaaaaaaste. So gross. Go away.

Went to bed for 3 hours today was supposed to be working, thank god it's getting quiet for Christmas and only got up when a courier was at the door - one of our suppliers couriered some charbonnel & walker truffles and a space nk candle to me all the way from London Town coz I missed out on the get-together on Tuesday!! Glad I can still face chocolate ...

Had a kids party tos afternoon and definitely find that getting out and being busy helps take my mind off feeling so naff bit boy do I feel it afterwards! I'm pooped which is ridiculous given my late morning nap. Day off work tomorrow with my 2yo - excited about hanging out with her but already feeling guilty about being Lame Mummy Who Sits On The Sofa A Lot...

Happy Thursdays to you all anyways....

Hello! I've had a very up/down day. Thank you all for thinking of me - I'm suddenly feeling very down and in scared I've made the wrong decision for my family. I'm next to useless with DS, DP is helpful but keeps telling me how he knew it would be this bad and I'm having a bit of a wobble. On the plus side, although I've thrown up ,, I've not had so mch dry heaving and I'm feeling slightly less nauseous (which makes me worry its all gone wrong - I literally cannot win inside my head right now)

Now, I did see a GP - not my normal

25weeks is def a peaking HG week again for me... is there loadsa hormonal stuff going on? anyone else having a crappy week 25?

rubbish taste in mouth; weird starving feeling but meh don't fancy eating anything
plus the beginnings of heartburn gah.