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jodee · 16/02/2002 15:55

I hope no-one thinks this thread is too 'exclusive' or 'cliquey', but I can no longer join in with the weight loss thread, so I thought I would start this one up!

I wish I had had the benefit of the internet (and especially Mumsnet, of course!) first time around and felt pretty isolated after ds was born, so it's good to have some 'virtual' friends in the same boat now I'm expecting no 2.

It would be interesting as well to find out just how many of us are pregnant, there must be loads of us! and just to have a general chinwag.

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Dixie · 05/03/2002 16:12

Just a quick update, the consultant was very reassuring. she told me about the 3 main causes of the condition and how each is treated. They are still a worry but they also quite straight forward treatments. One type is literally just treated with antibiotics at birth (straight forward but worrying that the poor mite will be pumped full of drugs so soon into the world!). The other two types involve actual surgery. The other causes are so rare she didn't feel the need to discuss them until we had the other scan. Other than that baby is well, normal size & very active (also a relief due to the diabetes they diagnosed me with earlier in the pregnancy if you recall!!)

bundle · 05/03/2002 16:20

Enid, have you tried ready salted flavour hula hoops? they kept me alive for the first few months when I could barely keep anything else down.

Joe1 · 05/03/2002 18:24

Jodee look forward to it.

Enid, I was throwing up regularly and found cornflakes are good so are french toast. I dont feel soo sick anymore but Im sure its not the last of it, I was throwing up while in labour with ds.

Enid · 05/03/2002 18:49

Joe1 - I remembered you eating french toast from somewhere before and have just bought some after the nightmare trip from hell to the supermarket - can't believe I once found the smell of roasting chicken appealing. My SIL also recommended Sainsburys lemon curd yogs and they are brilliant!! The worst time is having to make supper for my dd - she hasn't had sausages for ages and is living on cheese on toast and soup. Poor lamb.

Eulalia · 05/03/2002 19:03

Anyone here at the opposite end? ie late pregnancy. Are you feeling irritable? I don't remember being like this first time round. Mind you I had a whole month's maternity leave (baby was late) - it was summer and lovely weather and I didn't have a toddler!

I am getting worried about how I can cope as my boy seems to survive on such little sleep. Last night he had only 9 hours and about an hours sleep today in the car. Perhaps I should look on other threads about how to cope with new baby and toddler.

I feel I should be making the most of these last few weeks alone with him. Anyone have any nice suggestions about what we can do together?

ScummyMummy · 05/03/2002 19:34

Dixie- so sorry I didn't see this before. (I must must must get my dratted computer fixed.)

This brought back lots of memories for me. One of my twins had this diagnosed in utero. I'll say this now- he is a healthy, gorgeous little boy- just fine with no health problems, kidney or otherwise. But, like you, I was devastated when the midwife doing the scan told me there could be something wrong. I worried off and on throughout the pregnancy- sometimes I'd push it to the back of my mind and other times I couldn't think about anything else and was very tearful and felt I didn't want the pregnancy to end since I thought he was safe inside me but might not be once he was born. No one really seemed able to tell me what it was exactly, which didn't help.

Basically as it was explained to me (after he was born- helpful!)it can be a sign of 3 things-
1)that an enlarged renal pelvis is normal for your child
2)That there is a blockage
3)Reflux- this is when the bladder is unable to empty properly so the urine travels back up to the renal pelvis.

When your baby is born they'll keep a close eye on him or her to check it's not 2 or 3. They'll scan him or her regularly and tell you to be alert for signs of a urinary tract infection- kids with reflux are very prone to these and preventing them is the reason for the antibiotics from birth- and refer him to a renal paediatrician.

I think it's really important for you to know that none of these things are life threatening and they will absolutely NOT operate or indeed intervene in any way- blood tests, invasive tests etc- unless strictly necessary. They very much take a wait and see approach. I was very lucky and my little boy was discharged from the outpatients clinic at 6 months since the paediatrician decided the condition was normal for him. I met some other parents there who weren't quite so lucky- ie a urinary tract infection had showed up in their kids or a blockage had been removed and the doctor was keeping an eye- doing regular scans, blood tests, urine analysis etc. BUT ALL THESE KIDS WERE BASICALLY HEALTHY and OK. They were not constantly ill or anything like that.

I hope this helps, Dixie and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and your baby. Please, please try not to worry too much. It really is quite likely to be not very serious. Where are you based, by the way? I'm in central London and was referred to St Mary's, Paddington where the renal doctor was absolutely fab- a Dr Deal.
Lots of love, Scummy.

jasper · 05/03/2002 23:43

Eulalia, do you mean irritable like I could bite my dh's head off? As in watching Watchdog makes me want to throw a brick at Nicky Campbell's smug face?......er, yes, you could describe me as being a bit on the short fused side at the moment to say the least.
Perhaps our current lovely Scottish weather is not helping?
Glad to know I am not alone

Dixie · 06/03/2002 09:45

Scummymummy, what can I say...THANKS!! You have just made me feel sooo much better! It is exactly what I needed to hear, I know the consultant was reassuring but I can't help thinking that they don't tell you 'like it is' because they don't want to upset you in pregnancy. I so wanted to hear of someones real experience.

So after your son was born, how closely did they monitor him, did he have to stay in or was it on an out-patient basis? How regular were the appointments, once a fortnight? more or less regular? You say this was for 6 months? I know every case is different but just an idea of what to expect will help me be prepared. THANX AGAIN!

Eulalia · 07/03/2002 20:42

jasper - well nothing (and everything!) in particular... I just don't have the same energy and there always seems to be so many things piled up to do (washing, dishes etc) and all I feel like doing is lying on the sofa. Then my boy comes charging at me full tilt and poor bump gets the full brunt of it. I thought things would be easier with him the age he is rather than those who opt for going for say an 18 month age gap but I am not so sure. He is going through a phase of wanting to do things, not being able to, getting frustrated and refusing my help. So in other words he moans no matter what happens. I seem to find he takes up all my time and I am wondering how I am going to cope with a baby too. Same old story I am sure that many others have said before....

I thought you were due soon?

ScummyMummy · 08/03/2002 12:28

Dixie- once again sorry for not responding more promptly.

My boy was discharged along with me and his brother 2 days after birth. Before we left the hospital he had a scan and they watched him pee a couple of times to check that the flow was strong and constant. They gave us the antibiotics. He was then asked to come back for another scan in a couple of weeks as an outpatient and for a consultation with the kidney specialist soon after.

Their level of worry depends partly on the size of the dilation- the bigger it is the more cause for concern. His was, annoyingly, just on the wrong side of normal- it was about 10mm, if I recall correctly, so it needed monitoring even though the consultant was quite reassuring about the likelihood of all being well.

He was scanned again at about 4 months, I think, and at the follow up visit (2 months or so later due to rubbish NHS appointment system!)the consultant felt it was safe to discharge him, though she said he should be immediately re-referred if he contracted a urinary tract infection (UTI). So basically he had 3 scans and 2 consultations, all as an outpatient, and was then discharged.

We had a tendency to panic every time he had a fever for a short time, immediately worried that it was a UTI, but he's been absolutely fine.
As far as I could tell from speaking to other parents whose children had slightly more serious conditions, everything possible is done on an out patient basis. One mum said that her wee boy (about 2 at the time I met him)had had the same thing in utero as our baby. Her son did contract regular UTIs and had to have urine analysis and blood tests every few months to monitor the condition. Her boy was gorgeous and she was remarkably laid back and reassuring (at that time we were still a bit worried). She said that he might have to have an operation at some point but that at the moment they were steering as clear as possible of invasive procedures since sometimes these conditions improve as the child grows- again the wait and see approach. However, she knew exactly what to look out for and had very quick access- unlike us!- to the consultant(who as I said before is a complete gem)when things weren't so hot on the UTI front. What I really loved about this consultant was her absolute commitment to NOT intervening unless absolutely necessary. I felt I could be very confident that any treatment she advised for my boy would be essential, since she was very reluctant to cause distress to children unless there were strong medical reasons to do so.

One of the stressful things about renal pelvis dilation is that it could all be normal for your child or it could necessitate further investigation and possibly ultimately an operation. It's hard to tell- there's only so much you can glean from a scan, so if things look problematic on the scan they look at doing blood tests etc to see if they can pinpoint the problem. When I was first told about the dilation I was very paranoid that my boy might end up having an operation when he was perfectly fine and thriving but Dr Deal quickly disabused me of this notion. She didn't even give him a blood test on the grounds that he was showing no signs of illness whatsoever. I really hope you get a great consultant like her.

I think Fairy is absolutely right in her post too-in a way it's good that they can catch these things in the womb- at least if, in a worst case senario- an operation IS needed, your baby won't be in the kind of pain that her poor son was because everyone will be on the lookout for exactly this kind of problem.

HTH and take care of yourself, Dixie.

Scummy

P.S. Have you got any feelings about whether this baby is a boy or a girl? It seems like mainly boys are prone to this sort of thing... Having said that I was convinced my 2 were girls even after the renal pelvis thing was spotted!

Joe1 · 11/03/2002 18:22

Well 13 weeks tomorrow and Im still wearing all my ordinary clothes, I cant believe it, although my tummy is getting abit harder and dh says rounder. First midwife visit on Thursday. I cant stop eating, is anybody else having this. I can eat a meal and feel is I havnt eaten a thing. Today I had a plate of chips, went out for about an hour and half and came back and eat two cheese and tomato toasted sandwiches and could have eaten them all over again. Now Im feeling sick because Im again hungry, Im I having an elephant?? Why havnt I got a bump if Im needing to eat so much, I would have thought it is a few pound already.
Hows everyone feeling?

debster · 11/03/2002 19:56

Ooh I hate you Joe1! I'm only 9 weeks pregnant and I look like I'm about 5 months! I can no longer wear my ordinary trousers and have had to buy some size 16 ones. I've only put on about 4 lbs but my whole abdomen seems to have collapsed. Something about the muscles relaxing quicker. I am mad for carbohydrates at the moment. Bread, cakes etc. I've got constipation too (sorry!) so am trying to drink a lot more water and fruit juice.

Enid · 11/03/2002 19:58

Joe1, 10 weeks now and still feeling sick, but it is definitely eased by eating! I don't actually fancy anything, but once I start I can't stop - apart from breakfast which is still a real trial. Currently munching through a pack of crisps and wishing dp would hurry up with supper.

Eulalia · 11/03/2002 20:51

Joe - I didn't put on any weight till I was about 15 weeks in both pregnancies. I seem to remember the baby is only about the size of a prawn at the end of the first trimester.

I've now put on 24lbs (at week 37) and I am hoping that will be about it as I feel quite big enough now.

Who is next here anyway to give birth? I think it is Jasper. Jasper - have you 'popped' yet?

Rozzy · 11/03/2002 22:45

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Enid · 12/03/2002 10:23

Rozzy, near Sherborne, in Dorset.

Tetley · 12/03/2002 10:29

Sorry, I'm a bit late to this thread. Joe1 - I've finally found someone else who was throwing up in labour!!! (What a lovely topic of conversation!) I was too, and the nurses/midwives were very suprised. I was sick every day with ds.
I'm now 9 weeks gone with number 2, and am feeling very queasy, but haven't yet been sick. I rally hope it isn't like last time (although it was a very good way to lose weight - not very healthy though!).
I too feel much better when eating - anything sweet is fine.

Enid · 12/03/2002 10:33

Tetley, when's your due date? Mine is the 12 October, you must be pretty near that.

Sick every morning now and most evenings, but have discovered that if I eat something it helps. Changing dd's pooey nappy first thing this morning was a real killer...!

Tetley · 12/03/2002 11:16

Enid - October 13th!!

I agree with you about nappies!

Joe1 · 12/03/2002 11:18

Tetley my midwife told me that being sick in labour is your body giving a helping hand with the contractions and wasnt surprised at all.
Enid, well I thought the sickness was going but no threw up my lovely spaghetti bolognese last night so had cornflakes for tea again. Managed to hold it off this morning.
I am now stuffing french toast with philiadelphia, Ive already had three bits of toast (one a crust), a bowl of cornflakes, some tortillas and a bunch of grapes. I am really looking forward to lunch just cant decide what to have beans on loads of toast or lots of toasted sandwiches, as long as its lots I dont suppose it matters .

Enid · 12/03/2002 11:22

Mmmm toast...supposed to be designing a newsletter but mumsnet keeps winning! But its 11.30, and thats the time that I allow myself a snackette...

Joe1 · 12/03/2002 11:26

Enid, Im going to be gross, have you thrown up your toast yet, that really put me off it for a while. Dont know why anybody would say eat dry toast if feeling sick because its horrible when it comes straight back up again.

bundle · 12/03/2002 11:30

joe1/tetley, I threw up in labour too, so much I had to have a drip because of dehydration...Joe1, impressive amount of food you're putting away, respect

Joe1 · 12/03/2002 11:31

Thanks Bundle

bundle · 12/03/2002 11:31

yeah, maybe not for everyone

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