A thread for elderberries who are hovering in the bfp helicopter

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All elderberry grads welcome and anyone who fills berry criteria: ttc #1 a long time now finally bagged that elusive bfp, over 30...

Come join the next stage of the journey and compare sickness reports!!

Am impressed - so crafty! Will knitted cardies be coming for all berries
Running in to say - little wim is def there and has a heart! Hooray! Scan was exciting, and my booking in and nhs scan dates turned up today - a big step in the thinking this is actually real states!

Oooo!! How exciting Wim!!

I knitted a cardi for my mate's 18 month old and it took me forever. Currently trying to get 5 teddies knitted in the next 2 weeks. Only started this morning (as in 2am). The insomnia will help....

Great news Wim! It's a good feeling and such a short lived relief!

Oooh Wim that's awesome! How far on did they make you?

Thanks Barking will have to get on Amazon!

Quiet today, everyone ok other than the expected fretting?

Fret fret fret!

I have been entertaining yet again. And now I'm awake at this silly o'clock yawnnnnnnnnnn

barking re your friend. There's realistic and cautious and then there's just downright negative and it sounds like she has got the balance a bit wrong there. Yes things can go wrong, like everything in life, but that doesn't mean we don't celebrate the successes we have! Getting pregnant is an amazing thing and despite the worry we should probably all stop and have a mini celebration. We wouldn't enjoy anything if we were held to ransom by possible future events which are far more likely NOT to happen anyway.

Woah feel like I've just given myself a pep talk there.

wim fantastic news on the scan!! So when's the next one now?

Having a panic, blood when I wiped. Problem is, I only noticed as I flushed the loo (blasé me, not checking the loo paper for once) so I flushed the evidence away.
Wiped again and got a small spot of red blood. Not sure of the source iykwim, as there was definitely more when I went to the loo so hoping it could be a uti (again) and blood in my wee. However have a sinking feeling it's not. Have no sanitary pads in the house so am sitting in my dressing gown with loo paper in my knickers wondering whether I should wake OH and what to do next.
Can I have a hand to hold please

I'm here merk, hand hold away. Have you thought about calling EPU? I know we all know, but going to dredge up the line anyway - bleeding is relatively common in early pregnancy and often for no obvious reason (unless you had sex last night? which is a common cause). Fingers crossed that's the case here. Try not to panic, I'd call down to the EPU and see if you can go in. You could also phone your community midwife (there will be someone on duty even if it's not your named midwife), she can dip your wee and see if it's got blood/leucocytes in it.

And I'd wake up Mr Merk, it's scary and you need some support. Hope it all turns out to be a false alarm xxxx

Thanks guys. I'm 10w4d. Had a rummage (even when scared shitless I can still raise a smile at the word rummage) and its definitely vaginal. I'm holding off ringing EPU because I know the first question they will ask is how much, and I don't know yet. Unfortunately no sex last night so I can't blame it on that...

There's quite a lot of blood. Just rang the 24 hour maternity triage line and they don't see anyone under 18 weeks so said to go to A&E

Merk I'd bypass A&E and get yourself to EPU, A&E is fine but doesn't have scanners/specialists so would only have to refer you on. I'm hoping so hard for you that everything's ok and it's just one of those random bleeds xx

On the front of my maternity notes there isn't a number for the epu, only the 24 hour triage number which was the one I rang. The midwife I spoke to said they only saw people from 18 weeks and she said a and e so I assume the epu is closed or she would have given me their number. I looked online and epu seems only to be Monday to Friday. Argh, I'm with you that I think a and e will be useless but not sure what else to do. Although I'm not sure there's much epu can do either other than deliver good or bad news.
My plan is procrastinate as long as possible to walk to the shop for some san pro and then decide based on how much I'm bleeding. At last look it was quite a lot, mostly brown it some pink. The walking to the shop is kind of important as weird fact I only bleed when I'm stood up so sitting down at home doesn't really tell me anything.
Can you tell I'm all over the place? Apologies for multiple posts

Another hand here Merk. It's very easy for me to say but my friend lost loads of blood one morning when around 12 weeks. 'Gushed' out of her in the shower, more than AF would have been, and her and her DH both thought she'd mc again. Everything was absolutely fine and she had a healthy baby.
fx you get some reassurance from whoever you see.

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I'm the same merk, don't bleed until I'm walking. Further to my account of my mate, this happened to her on a weekend and she had to wait until Monday for a scan. Didn't want to put that bit in as hoped it would be different where you are .

Oh merk try as keep calm yeah right

I don't think epus open at weekends and everyone will send you to A&E which in my opinion will be useless and are very unlikely to offer you a scan. Why don't you call Nhs direct? They will ask you to describe exactly what you see and feel and then prob tell you to get emergency gp tomorrow. Then EPU of course. You are right, none of them can do anything but they can reassure you.
Let us know how u feeling x

I too am wondering if I am best waiting it out until tomorrow as A&E are going to be a waste of time.
Got a bit teary walking back from the shop but now have huge, thanks to crap selection at corner shop towel in place and red blood has def turned to brown, even if there is a fair amount of it. Currently having no pain either, so clinging on to those two things as positive. What do you think? Sit tight until tomorrow unless the bleeding gets worse?
I'm trying to be calm, and I know lots of people bleed without anything to worry about, but surely if my cervix is supposed to be closed this cant be a good sign? Think small cat is worried about me as he has plonked himself firmly on my knee which is a rare privilege

Offering a hand to hold here as well merk. Lol's NHS direct is a good idea I think - they are usually great on there. And epu will scan you tomorrow if you can go- don't know what a&e will do- unless the bleeding is threatening your own life iyswim.

Bleeding isn't uncommon and so it might be a good idea to take a bit more time to work out exactly what's going on before you do anything.

I can't believe there's nowhere to get support on a weekend unless you're more than 18 weeks. Nice one NHS

Having read some more stuff it suggests only to go to a & e if soaking more than one pad an hour, or hving severe cramping. Think I'm a long way off that so am going to hold out.
Thunder I had the exact same thought about having nowhere to go and the midwife being a bit off with me on the phone. But again I suppose they don't want to say it but there's nothing they can do if something does go wrong.
Am sitting here worrying over every twinge so am going to wake OH up so we can go and do something to take my mind off it.
On another note having not bought sanitary towels since I was 12 why have always got bigger??? These are not heavy ones or anything as far as I can tell from the packet, although they are extra long. I've got my biggest pants on and they're wider than my gusset (snigger) and almost from my belly button to my waist band at the back!!! Had totally forgotten the nappy like feeling when wearing them

merk it is definitely a good sign if it is brownish/pinkish blood, although I'm sure one of the other girls cavort perhaps, had bright red blood a couple of times and all was fine. I have everything crossed that all is ok and it is just one of those random bleeds. My friend bled all the way through her pregnancy, I forget how many times she was hospitalised and she now has a happy healthy 2 year old.

Thinking of you and sending positive vibes and healthy thoughts to bubs! Plus lots of and to keep your sugars up.

merk what on earth have you bought?! Are you sure you haven't got pampers by mistake. I have some always and they're thinner than they used to be but quite gusset shaped/sized.

Or perhaps you have a smaller than average gusset circumference yourself?
Wake him up and give it a bit of time. Another anecdote but I have a friend who bled quite a bit and they did do something after scanning her. They signed her off and told her total rest for 2 weeks. And it stopped and all is fine now.

So there is a point in telling someone, its just it might be better to be epu first thing tomorrow rather than spending your day stressing in a&e waiting room for no avail.

Grrrrr to bolshy mw as well.

Always ultra long. For experimental purposes I just measured one and they are 9.5cm wide at the ends and 8.5cm wide in the middle so hardly shaped at all (no wings). And 27cm long!! I had no choice anyway so they will have to do.
Bleeding seems to have stopped but maybe because I'm sitting down. Am debating not saying anything to OH at all yet as it will only panic/stress him and there may be no need.
Thank you ladies for being amazing, don't know what I'd do without you. Will keep you posted but hopefully there'll be nothing else to update

Ps my heart is still going like mad... Not sure I will survive this much stress for another 6 months!!!