Early pregnancy after IVF. Please come here to worry and support!

[NookNook]

Right then! Come here if you are 4-12 weeks and can't stop fretting. Didn't think anything could be worse than the 2WW? Think again!

Our friends have asked me to make their wedding cakes for them, so they're coming over tomorrow for a chat and a taster. Then I shall mainly be walking the pup and rustling up some nice grub me thinks. How about your good self?

I'm going to terrorise my local greengrocer: 'what's that?'; ''ow much?!'; 'no fanks, it looks like a knob'; 'you're a robbing bastard, you are'^, etc, etc....

Later in the afternoon I will get stuck into the rest of my Cadbury Chocolate Chaos and impress upon th'usband the merits of my staying on the settee rather than helping him in the garden.

Church on Sunday morning and then two-hour chinwag with mutha over the phone (repeat but with sister) followed by the creamy sausage tagliatelle I should have made tonight instead of gorging on Zorba's.

The pressure of making your pals' wedding cake!

Sounds like a good-un. You have made me want sausage pasta. So that is what I shall be having. I like the green grocer for the freebies on offer. Of the vegetable variety, obviously.....

I love to bake, especially for other people, so I'm really chuffed they asked! Think I know what I'm doing for them....

Joos you big softie. I knew it!

Morning all.

motor I found out this morning from our friend google ( and my pharma friend) that HCG peaks around 5-7 weeks. This apparently is why clearblue digi's are useless after 6 weeks. I'm holding onto this nugget of info with both hands.

Yesterday DH and I were in gourmet burger. I ate my dindins with relish (literally ), got full quickly. Was whinging about the whole mc thing then felt serious nausea for 20 mins. Had to leave abruptly as I like eating there and didn't want to spew on the table

I seems that dairy intolerance can get worse with early pregnancy and I had mozzeralla and 2 lots of mayo (basil and garlic separately). So, it may well be the start of morning sickness rather than just intolerance as I had thought.

So, I'm holding onto a positive attitude for now

Seems perfectly logical to me, fish, I hope your symptoms come so thick and fast you feel like an utter shower of shit

Marbs, do you do them there cakes in the shape of a cock and stuff?

Resipsa, darling, how the frig art thou and why am I a softie?

I have just woken up and am already bored.

That's the thinking Fish! Your burger sounds tres tasty. I too have been getting very full very quick. Hurrah!

Prammy I would love to make a cock cake. No one has ever asked for one though. And I can just see what would happen if I sent DH into work with one...... When are you going to harass the green grocer?

I've been up for hours. I keep having terrible nightmares on a constant loop. And now DH is making me look at family cars. Oh the joy but then he wants to take me to look at baby stuff

fish I think you are right. HPTs are really only good for saying if you are pregnant in the early days, but pretty useless after that. And it heartens me that your friends pharma and google say about hcg peaking at that point. That would explain why my hcg went from rising very quickly to 22000, and then only rose to 31000 after 3 days once I got past 6 weeks. I have read that there is really no point in measuring hcg levels once they get past 6000.
So glad to hear you felt sick, and more confident in your pregnancy.
Hi to pram nook maybe. Have I missed anyone?

Hi to pram nook maybe. Have I missed anyone?

That cracked me up for some reason, Motor, when there's only four of us I wish more egg buddies would get upduffed.

I feel rotten for poor Twinks

So do I Prammy

Yes, but pram, counting to four this morning feels like an achievement! I'm still in my nightclothes and feel like I had a major boozy night out, when all I did was drink something very boringly non-alcoholic and went to bed at 10 pm!

That is exactly why I directed that to you! And my oharma mate rocks. When I got hysterical it was her who I called for the science and spiritualism.

Gourmet burger do a chicken in panko crumb burger with mozzeralla ontop, basil mayo and I order the garlic mayo as its 'da shit'. I go naked ( bunless). It was heavenly...

I feel terrible for twinks too, particularly after the run of BFPs we've had on here. I makes me feel very lucky indeed.

I've just slept for four hours. I slept for ten last night

Good for you! I'm tired by 7pm but I think that's just laziness...

I'm shattered too. A very productive day. Bought a proper grown up family car, and sorted wedding cakes and went to look at prams

Th'usband's just returned from the shop with a DVD for tonight: Stoker with Nicole Kidman. Heard of it? Watched it? I'm just watching Björk Meets Attenborough. I love that kooky nymph of pop

You sound like a wealthy couple to me, Marbs, which means I have to reconsider our friendship...

Golly, I'm tired.....zzzz....zzzz...z.zz..

Noooooooo!! Don't leave me Prammy. Not wealthy, but the car we have can't fit the pooch and a bambino in it.

Not seen your film. I'm watching nick knowles on some national lottery thing whilst trying not to vomit. I have a horrid feeling the nausea has landed. But I'm hungry. I feel I should eat through it.

Did you eat the rest of your sandcastle?

Joos just reading your post re scan made me think "aww". I guess it's cause your posts are to the point (which I love and DH has a particular brand of Australian assertiveness which is attractive in the same way) and the scan one was squidgy.

I want to join you lot so keep going. Winkle and I will see you soon.

Stoker was achingly shit and that's all I have to say about that.

I finished the sandcastle on the very same night I told you I would be troughing it the next day, Marbs Yes, eating through the nausea is the only way. I'm actually swallowing down sick sometimes when I'm scrabbling through the fridge/waiting for Zorbas. I'm now getting full very easily - which I find alarming as I have a great appetite - and feeling sick shortly afterwards too. I really, really fancied a shag last night but simply could not be bothered to take my knickers off (or anything really)

Resipsa, but when are you coming over? Are you doing DE? Has hubby been booted into submission acquiesced?

I'm off to church soon to pray for you slags sinners lovely ladies xx

Crikey! I was just about ready to leave for church when I get a phone call from some midwife wanting to come and do my booking-in. She's only just left! Because it's a Sunday she couldn't ring the hospital for a 12 week scan date so she will do that tomorrow. She's my one-on-one midwife which means she always comes to my home and from week 15 she will bring her machine so we can listen to baby's heartbeat

Apparently, I am being so looked-after because this is an IVF baby. The bad news is she said my consultant will not allow this baby to go full-term as they know how precious these babies are to us and we've been through so much to get here they want to avoid any complications. They absolutely would not, she declared, allow the pregnancy to go over forty weeks. She would be looking at an induction around 38 wks

Oh wow Prammy! You are so lucky to have such amazing care!! Once I get my viability scan, my clinic discharges me, and I just have the normal midwife care!! Why won't they let you go to 40 weeks? Is she nice? I hope so. You'll be having that 12 week scan before you know it

Marbs, she was lovey and very gentle. I quizzed her about the Kehoe Report where my hospital was damned for having excessive stillbirths in March this year. She told me this was a terrible skewing of statistics: in March there were eight referrals from St. Mary's in Liverpool where the mothers had chosen to terminate after 24 wks due to abnormalities etc but they were listed as stillbirths in the regular sense (ie. mother gives birth to otherwise healthy child which then dies). Also the report does not take into account the fact that this area has high deprivation with socioeconomic disadvantages coupled with a high Asian demographic. Asians tend to have high rates of interbreeding with the concomitant abnormalities and this always accounts for more stillbirths at this hospital.

She and her colleagues are very upset by the report and I felt sorry for her. She said the midwifery service at this hospital is excellent and they do their utmost for mother and baby in every instance. I believe her, too.

I dunno, the induction is to do with getting baby out as soon as it's full-term, what with it being such 'precious cargo'. They know how very little margin for error there is with these babies after being so hard-won. It doesn't make sense to me because all babies are precious cargo and I am a healthy woman. I will fight hard to not be induced.

Wow, I feel so sorry for the hospital. Stats are never what they seem on the surface. And it sounds like you are in amazing hands!!

It is strange to force an induction if not entirely necessary. I didn't realise there was a higher risk of complications if left to go till 40 weeks. I think every day will be a school day throughout this pregnancy shizzle.

Have you got another scan with the clinic before your NHS one?

Yeah, Marbs, they're scanning me in a fortnight again when I'll be 10+3. The midwife wants my booking-in scan to be done on the same day as I meet my consultant which is 29th Aug when I'll be 13+2, so I'm pleased to be having another one at 10wks.

I am feeling rougher than ever today and so, so nauseous. This metallic taste is the culprit, I am sure of it. Nothing helps - fruit, eggs, milk, water, bread: all of it makes me want to hurl chunks.

Not that I'm complaining....I'm having me a Prambino!