Pregnant (IVF) Worriers (part two)

[Shazzamattazzerly]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others! We have filled our first thread (www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1721178-Pregnant-IVF-Worriers) but there is more worrying to do so here we are.

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

Hi girls

Congratulations Crisps on 12 weeks. A milestone indeed.

Keep well done for a successful appt today. Cute sock purchase. I haven't bought anything yet. DP bought a random soft toy that he adores for some reason. It is very sweet. We didn't get take away or eat the dinner off the floor. Luckily we had eggs so whipped up omelettes for all. Poor DP was embarrassed and my dad who is normally a right wind up merchant was very restrained! Re the fake prams. I think that they are poor quality, wheels and bits falling off, fake guarantees etc. all bad news really.

Sweetie. I can't tell you how impressed I am that you are starting a spreadsheet for the pushchairs. A woman after my own heart! I'm going to follow your lead and do the same.

Mariana the horror of a child losing a finger! I smiled at trenchlet in the supermarket. Here we all are, all gooey eyed and then she screams us back to reality . It is lovely to think that she is the first of all our bumps to arrive. Funny that by the end of the year there will be a few more to join her. We could make a tv show. Lets get Robert winston .

Expat so cute re feet and bum. I can't wait to feel it. I'm also 42. It's funny to be wondering about things like that. Someone recommended Phil and ted pushchair cause it is good when you have a second one. Mind you he then went on to say that he thought I was 28 and so assumed I'd be having another at some point!!!!

Fairy I wish I could be cycling. I just can't face it here. I asked cause we are thinking of taking a trip with our bikes. I'm used to doing that but not whilst pregnant. The dreams are strange aren't they?

So must confess to texting MW today re worrying about comments about my small bump and no movement. She said not to worry. People love to talk about things that they know nothing about and they don't worry about movement until 24 weeks. She said with your first it is mainly that one doesn't know what to look out for. I feel abit more reassured although following gin's post this morning I've been poking the bump all day hoping to rouse shazlett into action.

First time I started feeling movement at 21 weeks. I was slimmer then with a smallish bump too. It's really nothing to fret about.

Speaking of looking 28. My mum said to me today 'you've got mascara under your eyes' so I ducked into the bathroom to wipe it off. Except no, no mascara, just the alarming dark shadows I've developed, I am haggard. DH is still away, I wonder if I should be asking him to get me some Touche Éclat in duty free.

Just popping in quickly to say so sorry shazz, I really didn't mean to worry you! I bet it is all wind I'm feeling and not baby flutterings at all, as it is so early. I'd have thought bump and when you can feel it depends a lot on how you are carrying it and your own shape. I think I have a sticky out womb, as it tended to make me look preggers when it had AF bloat. Also my bump gets bigger as the day goes on, so it's mostly water retention and wind I reckon! Please please don't worry and certainly don't listen to me and my windy tummy

Waves and happy weekend to everyone else!

Oh ladies, you are sweet !

Yep, scan was interesting. My child shall henceforth be known as 'Nipper Rascal' or NR. He is SOOOOOOOO badly behaved at scans, it's untrue < strangely proud>. My scan was at 8.35am and when the sonographer started to scan, NR was fast asleep and there was NO waking him up. So, I was dispatched to get breakfast and a hot chocolate to wake his lordship. So, back in I went. He was awake < he likes chocolate for breakfast > but wouldn't get into a position where measurements coud be taken. So, the dildocam came out (four times - I fecking kid you not) and it took the sonographer 40 mins to complete the scan. So, I am waiting for the blood tests results but the neck measurements look ok, so fingers crossed.

I am 12+6 today so slightly ahead of you crisps . How the feck did that happen !?

shazza your Love Day was so cute ! Had DP dropped the dinner on he floor, I would have booted his arse around the kitchen.

Hello to everyone else !

Noks xx

Four times with the dildo cam? I'd be pressing charges.

(Glad they got everything in the end!)

noks great news on your scan :)

Hello ladies

Busy day chez shaz. The Olds and DP have been diamonds and have nearly finished the room that we had allocated a week to do. Looks like I might get the bathroom done as well

Gin you didn't worry me at all! Having said all I said yesterday I think I might have felt shazlett today. When I was washing up I felt like a light tapping in the front of my tummy. I thought I'd knocked myself against the sink but I hadn't. It must've come from inside. Even as I lay here now I can feel little 'pops'. Very faintly but I think it's something.

Noks I love that NR was sleeping when you went for your scan and you had to go back. That is so funny. The 4 dildocams not so funny though, not for you. At least you got a good result. Fingers crossed for the bloods. When do the results come back?

Definitely get touch éclat Mariana. The government should provide every new mum with one as they leave hospital

I hope you are all ok. I'm shattered. I've been cooking and cleaning all day.

Oh new pushchair interest is uppababy cruz. Any thoughts? I also looked at the mutsy Evo which is tiny when folded but the basket is ridiculous. It looks like everything woukd fall out. And just for fun watch the telegraph you tube video on the origami something just for fun. It folds by itself at the touch of a button! It has an on board battery that charges up as you walk. What will they think of next?

Night all. Xx

noks awesome that you are almost 13weeks. It feels like an age and no time at all since we got diffed! Dildocam sounds about like you were violated but glad all was well. Mine is on Tues, I've already started with the mild panic about whether ther is actually anything in there. I have this odd fantasy that the scan machine keeps showing someone else's baby. Yes, I am slightly strange...

shazza your rents and dP are ace. My in laws are pretty fab despite not really feeding dd when they look after her and are great with helping out when asked. You sound all glowy and nestingy and happy! Your flutterings definitely sound babylike. With dd I remember realising when I felt huge kicks that I'd actually been feeling little ones for ages. I had a kind of squirming sensation when she moved sometimes too, do you feel anything like that?

mariana I have permanently black eyes too from lack of sleep. It's a sign of well earned motherhood, along with a stomach you can tuck in to your pants and the permanent snot stains on your shoulder I reckon. how is trenchlet doing?

sweetie I think we may have been separated at birth. I love a spreadsheet. I even have a mug that says so. Please tell me you favour a pastel dolour shading palette in excel?

Re puschairs for singleton babies...we had a Quinny last time and we loved it. It put up with a lot and was really flexible. Not too heavy to lift either.

Feeling a whole lot better this time. Have only been sick twice so far this morning and am upright without puking for the first time in days. Hope this is a sign of things to come as was losing the will yesterday. The glow is a long way off but if I can manage to shove my arse round Morrisons to do the shop today I'll be over the moon! Poor DH has been relegated to a week of takeaways, a stroppy threenager and a bomb site of a living room all week while working hundreds of hours, poor boy.

dildals and sweetie and other twinnie ladies...have you seen www.twinsclub.co.uk ? Have just discovered it this morning...quite a lot of articles and info on twins clubs. Have spent a good hour reading through some of the stuff...it's actually quite positive for a change, as opposed to the premature birth no sleep nightmare that most twins stuff makes me worry about...

Shazza well done on the decorating/DIY, major achievements when you have done

at 4 x dildocam, at least they got there in the end Noks

Crisps so sorry you are still have sickness, hope you are feeling brighter today and managed a quick trip to Morrisons.
Thanks for the link to twins club, I find the twins info full of horror stories too so have stopped looking now. I will have a read and see if there are any of the clubs near me. Although I went into Mothercare this weekend, it is a big out of town store, and they have a twin club every week. They also have loads of other sessions such as baby yoga, baby massage, pregnancy support, breast feeding support, doulas. Loads of things so ladies it might be worth checking out your local Mothercare to see if they host anything similar.
Also if you become a TAMBA member for £2.25 per month you get discounts off at loads of places including 10% at Mothercare which is a really good saving on buggies and all the other accessories we will need. I am already getting my list together.

We have been very busy on the buggy front this weekend and have nearly settled on the Oyster Max, but we still have to see the Mountain Duet up close and personal before our decision will be made. Then we can relax as if rather than driving ourselves mad with all the options out there.

I have my NHS screening scan tomorrow, but am not mentalling about it after everything was fine at the private scan last Monday. I am looking forward to seeing them again, just hope the sonographer is more gentle this time. I think we also get to see the twins consultant at the same time too. I am hoping for loads of helpful info and no negativity to an IVF twin pregnancy. I will let you know how we get on.

crisps if being sick "only" twice in a morning is an improvement, my god you poor thing! Really hope it eases up soon.

sweetie good luck on your scan tomorrow, I'm glad you are not stressed about it. Good luck also with having a relaxed, positive consultant.

shazza you asked a few posts back about 3 Aug. That weekend DH is away with friends so I think it is unlikely I will be able to come but it could get cancelled at the last minute. If it does then I will happily make the journey. And that definitely sounds like Shazlett saying 'hello' to me!

I've been having a very lazy Sunday, I haven't really got up from the sofa or bed all day. I've been extraordinarily tired so hopefully this will help. I've started to vaguely feel I should do something useful like put the laundry away.

I run my life via spreadsheets. I am slightly embarrassed by this.

Good luck for the scan Sweetie. I laughed at the scan being of someone else's baby crisps.

My local soft play -circle of hell- centre has a twins club too. Might be worth looking at those too. (I have warmed towards them now DD1 doesn't need me to participate and I can sit and drink tea at the side. I have a fear of ball pools.)

I've been decorating like a bastard again (when will I ever learn?) but Trenchlet now has a lovely bright bedroom. Ok, the ceiling is a bit patchy but only I'll notice. Just need to rehang the curtains and heave all her stuff back in, before tea time. I know I was too mental to prepare her room before her arrival but doing it with a 10 week old is a really silly idea.

Hope you're all sensibly relaxing.

Hello girls

Mariana trenchlet's room sounds great. Good for you getting it done. I hope she is feeling better. Did you get a snot extractor in the end?

Crisps oh my goodness. Poor you with the sickness. I really hope it eases up for you soon. Which Quinny did you have?

Sweetie good luck for tomorrow. It is lovely to see them again. I can't wait to see shazlett in a week or so. And thanks for the mothercare tip. I can't believe they do baby yoga. That's brilliant. And good idea about vouchers and offers. I think I'll scour the net to see if I can find anything.

Fairy fine for the 3rd. We'll keep our fingers crossed you can make it. I hope you enjoyed your relaxing afternoon.

Hello to everyone else. I hope you are all ok.

Another busy day here. I feel like I'm running an on-site builders cafe! Ive been cooking, baking, making tea and washing up all day. Today I made soup for lunch, banana bread and biscuits for afternoon tea and after dinner we had rhubarb crumble. But I've got a lovely new office room, painted exterior bits re-done and clean windows inside and out! I'm loving this. Shazlett is going to be born into a show home

More tomorrow. Night all.

noks so pleased your scan went OK eventually. Sounds like you have an independent-minded child in the making there.

sweetie hope today's scan went well

crisps congratulations on 12 weeks but sorry you are still feeling rubbish, hope it eases soon. It is so unfair that some people seem to get off lightly on the sickness front with a bit of mild queasiness (she says, feeling guilty...) and others randomly get dealt the vomiting card. I hope the trip to Morrisons was successful.

keep glad the pain seems to be easing a bit.

buzz how are things? Hope you had a good weekend.

shazza the decorating blitz sounds exciting. I would love to get our house redecorated, but we have been arguing vacillating over colours since we moved in 3 years ago and somehow I can't see it being done now! The only painting that's been done so far, has been done by me and DH would go over protectively mental if I started climbing ladders now, so that's put paid to any DIY for a bit round here.

I am back from my scan and the good news is that the little one is still hanging on in there, right size and good heartbeat. In less good news, the sonographer found a small area (2cm x1cm) of bleeding, not near the little one but still not what I wanted to hear, though she reassured us that in her experience as it was small it should just reabsorb and she thinks we have every reason to remain hopeful and optimistic. Why are things never straightforward, though, eh?

I have booked for the Harmony blood test at the Fetal Medicine Centre next week at 10+4 and the NT scan 2 weeks later, at their £180 package price. So only a week until our next scan. Fretting resumes tomorrow but I have given myself the rest of today off from worrying (oh, who am I trying to kid..).

Hope everyone else is doing OK.

Hi all,

Quick check-in from me. We're on holiday in Chamonix, plan was to take in a bit of fresh mountain air, do a bit of hiking and eat tartiflette/fondue/raclette. I even had a few sips of a very nice red wine. Rest assured though - the weather is crap, just like in England! Well, I hope you're not having nice weather while I am away. That would be unfair.

We had a 24 week scan just before we left. Girls are doing fine. Every time the sonographer wanted to take head measurements from one of the girls, the other one got jealous and put her head in front. But we got there in the end. I was convinced one had gone breech, because I can feel movement in my soft tissue down below as well as around my belly button. God knows what the down below feeling is, perhaps they have excellent upper body strength.... She also showed us the profile of their faces and afterwards we both said that they, strangely, looked like ... me ... I know this shouldn't come as a surprise, considering I put half the genes in, but still ... weird to see and I thought it was just me thinking it but DH mentioned the same. The sonographer did say 'they're not the biggest of babies, but all in normal ranges'. It's weird how one innocent phrase can make you fret. I am now carrying a total of about 1.2 kg of baby ... and gained about 8 kgs! Just goes to show how much fluid/placenta/additional blood volume/fat there is! It also made me realise they still have so much growing to do, and I am already struggling to tie my shoe laces! (I can now officially report that I can't see my private parts anymore)

Although I have been very lucky, having no morning sickness really, and hardly any tiredness I think it is come back to bite me. Last week I struggled to stay awake at my desk and had to have a few power naps straight after I'd come home (face plant on bed with work clothes on). Then again, the twins have been to their first 'proper' rock concert, and I stayed awake (sort of) for that. Now, on hols, there's been a substantial amount of napping, I feel like I have developed some sleeping disease you sometimes read about. This will get interesting should it persist! (picturing myself fast asleep at desk)

shaz sounds like baby flutterings to me!
noks great news on the scan! You've come such a long way.

There's nothing wrong with spreadsheets by the way. I had one for the prams decision making! You should see the wedding spreadsheet. Everyone laughed at my spreadsheet, but they all wanted a copy of it when they got married!

Good luck everyone with the decorating, baking, equipment buying, scans, Harmony tests, sickness!

Hello ladies

Dildals your holiday sounds great. And good news re the scan. Sweet that they look like you. I can imagine that it is disconcerting. Glad the girls are doing well. It's not surprising that you are feeling tired. You are making not one but two babies! I'm finding one taxing enough. Enjoy relaxing and napping on holiday. I laughed about not seeing your private parts. I'm starting to huff and puff at tying my shoe laces as well.

Ceara. Hurrah for the scan but sorry about the bleeding. At least you know where the spotting is coming from. Fingers crossed it sorts itself out. Well done for booking the harmony. It is worrying I can't deny it but it is worth the peace of mind.

Sweetie how was your scan today?

I hope you are all ok today. We have started on the bathroom. And shazlett has been squirming around abit. It is lovely to think that she is in there. I keep trying to get things on freecycle but the posters aren't getting back to me. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But how can I do it wrong?

Oh well nearly bed time. It is so nice being off work even though we are working hard. I'm looking forward to mat leave already :-)

Night all.

Just found out that I'm an auntie for 2nd time. Bro just had a girl. Home birth 2 and a half hours labour.

dildals enjoy your holiday, it sounds lovely even if the weather isn't great at not seeing your privates

ceara I can relate as I have just booked a scan for the end of this week can you be scanned too much I am still in two minds about the harmony due to DE, although the NHS are mucking me about with my booking in appointment I am still having spotting but I don't worry about it now, if you do have a bit of blood you will know what it is, although you will still worry

shazza i'm impressed with all the DIY, I am not sure where I will be living so feel DIY might be a bit last minute :) little shazzlet deserves the best

sweet I hope your scan went well

Well 9 weeks today, feel sick but not as much as before, which I'm sure is a good thing

Spreadsheets are great, I don't know how DH would cope without them

Seems like spreadsheets are the norm rather than the exception. Quite right too.

Good scan news and Ceara how annoying about the bleed area. I had one in one pregnancy, I bled at about 7 weeks, was scanned and told it was 2.5 cm wide but it was totally reabsorbed by 11. If you do have a bleed at least you know where it's come from and that it should be limited.

Dildals, the bad news is that the bone aching tiredness never stops! But you're growing two whole humans in there, of course you're tired. Holiday sounds lovely, I'm glad Raclette is permitted. It's very odd when they look like you, DD1 looks like me (but far nicer) but DD2 looks like her dad (but without the beard.) It takes some getting used to.

Congratulations on being an auntie shazz, the cousins will be close in age. Sounds like one of those straightforward deliveries you hear about in legend!

Buzzy according to all research you can't be scanned too much! Sorry the spotting continues but good that you're learning to live with it.

I'm tired! Trenchlet is very hungry tonight so I've been awake loads. Ive just changed her nappy and two minutes later she's pooed again, at least it wasn't during the nappy change. I'm keeping myself with planning her nursery pictures which is the only fun bit of redecorating.

Morning ladies

Mariana I hope trenchlett got her fill in the end. Did you get through your flask of tea? Sounds like you put in an allnighter.

Buzz 9 weeks that's amazing. Little by little you are getting there. I ended up having 5 scans by 13 weeks. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as too many . As long as they don't harm the baby of course and I don't believe they do.

Hope everyone else is ok today and not too much sickness

I'm feeling funny today. Found out that my other friend had a boy yesterday as well. I couldn't be happier for her. Natural pregnancy after 3 failed ivfs and years of trying and heartache. But along with the as yet unnamed new niece that's 2 new babes in one day. We've talked about this before when we discussed updiffed news. Even though I've got my bun in the oven I still feel abit like i did when I heard other new baby news through the years of TTC. Is that weird? I'm so thankful that shazlett is live and kicking in my tummy. So why ami worrying how I would have coped had I not had one of my own on the way? What does it matter? I'm also hoping that shazlett is ok at the scan next week. Them having had their babies safely arrive seems to make me feel vulnerable again. But everything will be ok wont it? I'm worrying unnecessarily right?

Xx

mariana i hope you get some rest, i have been thinking about getting some nursery bits from home, but not yet

shazza everything will be fine at your scan, remember you don't want their baby or life, you'll have your own soon enough

i had a quick look at the antenatal boards i don't think they are for me they all seem a bit foreign to be honest, back at work, hoping to go home early

Buzzy the antenatal boards are overwhelming aren't they? That's why we made our own .

Hello all! Hope you are all well and enjoying the almost sunny weather.

I agree re the antenatal boards buzz and shazz. I do occasionally read, as it?s interesting to compare symptoms, appointments I should be getting etc, but I mostly find it all very alien to my anxiety ridden experience. And that?s why you ladies are so great, as you get it!

shazz How lovely to be an aunty again, although I totally understand what you mean about pregnancy/birth announcements. I don?t think we?ve had any since my bfp, but I know I will still find them stabby, particularly if they are instadiffs. Sounds like you are making excellent progress with the DIY. Can I borrow your parents?! We have so much to do!

buzzy pleased to hear you are feeling a little less sick. My nausea really is a lot better. I do feel sick, but generally if I eat or ignore it, it goes away, rather than getting loads worse as it did before. Hope all is ok with you otherwise. Good luck for Friday?s scan.

mariana hope you aren't feeling the effects of last night too much today. Is Trenchlet feeling better now?

Didals hope you are having a lovely holiday. We?re off on hols soon too and I cannot wait! I can?t imagine how knackering it must be having 2 on board! I?m tired all the time with just the one and seem to fall asleep on the sofa by about 9pm. So pleased all was well at the 24 week scan. How lovely that they look like you. 2 mini mes :)

ceara that?s great that your bean has a good heartbeat and is the right size. Not long until the 12 week marker now. I don?t know much about bleeding, but know that it can be reabsorbed and frequently doesn?t cause any problems. Would the patch they saw explain your spotting?

fairy I too have been having very lazy Sundays! Helps me to get through the rest of the week. We?ve earned it I reckon.

crisps eeek at only being sick twice! My nausea has been bad enough, without actually chucking up. Have you got any tablets from the doctors? I found they took the edge off for me and meant I was able to get through a day at work.

noks yay for the good scan, although boo to dildocam. I hope I never have to see another of those long skinny buggers and their condom again.

Waves to everyone else.

I?m just back from a consultant appointment at the hospital. They?ve decided to class the pregnancy as normal, despite the IVF, so I?ll be under midwife rather than consultant care, unless any problems arise later in the pregnancy. I did have the choice of what I wanted, but I think fewer appointments is a good thing? I also asked about induction due to it being IVF and she said I?d just be treated as a ?normal?. Hopefully this will help me to feel more normal about it all, now I know it?s classed as a normal pregnancy. We heard baby?s heartbeat, which was v. cute and reassuring (and I teared up yet again...).

Shazza I think it is hard to change emotions when we have had such a struggle to get to where we are. I find it very hard to deal with instadiffs, I suppose I feel sorry for all the emotional baggage I have collected on the way. Congratulations on being an Aunty and sounds like a great playmate for Shazzlet

Dildals I am so pleased your scan went well and amazed you could all tell your babies look like you. I haven't been able to tell much from our scans yet. I am dying to know what ours will look like as we only have DH as a reference point. I am a bit sad that there will be nothing of me as secretly I would have loved a mini me.

Ceara I had a colleague who had really bad bleeding in the early stages of her natural pregnancy and the EPU told her it just had to work itself through and she went on to have a successful outcome. It is really worrying at the time.

Gin sounds like a good appointment but it might take a while for "normal" to sink in. How lovely to hear the hb too, I am not surprised you had a tear I am sure I will too.

Thanks for thinking of me yesterday, I am so pleased we have had our private NT scan as our NHS scan they couldn't get NT measurements for both twins. We were scanned for over an hour and the babies would not stop moving and get into the correct position. Both twins are still measuring a week over our dates but they aren't going to change our EDD yet. Our next scan will be at 20 weeks and then every 4 weeks after that. DH wants to go have a private 20 week scan at the same place we went for our NT scan, so that might be next scan we have.

Antenatal boards just prove that for most people everything is just fine! I suspect all the baggage relating to pregnancy and fertility will be with us for a long time. My cousin is due at Christmas, got pregnant first attempt. I am pleased for her and pleased Trenchlet will have a playmate in the family as all her other cousins are older. I have wondered how I'd feel if I didn't have her though.

Good scan news sweetie. I think it's very interesting how you feel about the genetics, it's obviously you doing the growing of the babies etc so how important is it that babies are genetically linked? I'd be interested in reading reseaech about that at some point. DD1 is like me but Trenchlet has no similarities to me so far, except my feet. She has similarities to DH though. Sweetie I think you will find people say they look like you regardless. My friend has adopted a little boy and she says people often say he's so like her.

'Normal' is a tricky one, Gin, it shows there is nothing special to worry about now, but if only it were that easy!

I'm so tired, and now stuffed up, sore throat and cough. I hope Trenchlet doesn't feel as bad as me. If she were just two weeks older I could dose her with Calpol and cover her in Karvol but as it is I can't do anything much. I can only hope it's good for her immune system.