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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 01/04/2013 18:03

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine bluebirdsunshine (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kalidasa, Nannyl and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

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nannyl · 07/04/2013 21:55

hello reebok,

[waves] sorry you are still suffering. was wondering how you were getting on.

Reebok · 07/04/2013 22:01

Hi nannyl, I was doing a lot better for a while and even managed to return to work. But recently had a small relapse...my own fault for coming off my meds. So had to go back on them to control the HG. Feeling a lot better than I did back when I joined this thread but still not quite myself :(

How are you? Hope bubba is doing well?

nannyl · 07/04/2013 22:56

you poor thing

I have to say that this pregnancy i havent even tried to reduce my meds.... it all ended in disaster every time i tried last time, so not worrying about it this time.

Im having a better time, and am less sick / HG than last time.

am 29 weeks now, and as of friday was head down, back to front (ie not back to back) and still planning a(nother) home birth... how far are you?

dont push yourself, and well done for making it through; those early days are beyond tough.
Hope your bubba is doing well, do you know if pink or blue yet (or surprise)?

Reebok · 08/04/2013 01:59

Oh wow nannyl, you've come so far. Not long to go.

I'm 25 weeks so feel like I've won over half the HG battle. Not feeling down like I was at the beginning. Yes I know! I'm having a little girl :)

What about you?

glossyflower · 08/04/2013 08:09

Hi ladies,
Just thought I'd pop by.
reebok and nanny I too cut out my anti emetics (cyclizine and ondansetron three times a day) when I thoughti no longer needed them and guess what?! Yes I got bad again. However I did manage to cut down to taking both just once in the morning.
I'm now 38 weeks (how did that get here so quick?!) and have managed now to stop taking them all together although I occasionally have a vomit in the morning and feel nauseous at times but nothing too bad and not constant. Everytime it happens though I panic the HG is coming back full force but I think that's a natural reaction!

Having HG has put me off further pregnancies, and I know some ladies on here are on there 4th or 5th time (crazy ladies!). Now I'm feeling better its becoming a distant (ish) memory of how ill I was but still put off having any more.

Would you ladies do it again?

nannyl · 08/04/2013 08:42

25 weeks already reebok, thats great!

Mine is pink too.

glossy flower i had another, as i didnt want an only child..... I alway knew id have to do it again.... and id really hoped i wouldnt be HG...

Im more realistic that if we ever have a 3rd i almost certainly will get HG.... quite simply IF i ever agree to it (OH still wants 3 and always has, i wanted 4 before i realised how horrific pregnancy is) i will have a much bigger age gap, and will also employ a nanny for my pregnancy....
Thats my sticking point, if he wants another I want / need a nanny, because although we got through that first bit, thats all it was, and it was tough on everyone (including my mum,who had to do a 5 hour journey twice a week to look after us)

I do not want a repeat of that first trimester with 2 children (at least one who understands a lot more) ever.

thankfully having a small age gap means i believe she has already forgotten those first few months

LucindaE · 08/04/2013 08:49

wavesandsmiles You poor thing,that cannula thing in all the time must be torment, just knocking it...I wonder if its that starvation thing with the ketones,poor you? I'm keeping my fingers crossed that at some point you get relief or comparative relief anyway. Isn't it awful when an innocuous smell like peas is unbearable.
Bodo So glad you're out with a pharmacy! Hope you're feeling a lot better.
Honeymoon any news re meds?
Reebok Nannyl and Glossyflower how lovely, three 'old timers' on the thread at once! Reebok Hugs, sorry about puking, that is so disappointing, when does ML start (I suppose you're on holiday atm?)
Did you say peeing started the puking off, with me it was always the other way round? I know your GP seems to think you are fine on cyclezine but with this relapse and how ill you were earlier, I wonder.
Nannyl and Glossyflower Hugs, do let me offer you some cushions, you must be 'a fine size' now...
Lucinda
xx

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Reebok · 08/04/2013 09:07

Nannyl, I'm really pleased for you.

Glossy flower, for now I think I will stick with the one. Have always wanted two and DH wants 5! But I doubt very much that will be happening as I'm convinced HG will rear its ugly head again. I've had it once before but I had a mmc so wasn't as bad as this experience.

Lucinda, it's nice to have a catch up with others who convinced me to join the thread when things were so awful. Can't believe we've made it this far! I'm still on hols but once I'm back at work, I have roughly 9/10 weeks to go until ML so fingers crossed I will battle through it. Can't wait to stop working for a while though. Pregnancy is exhausting even without HG!! My doc is seriously unhelpful so as I am managing on a few vomits a week, I think I will just battle on.

honeymoonmum · 08/04/2013 10:48

Hi bodo2 I'm going home today too with trace ketones. Got cyclizine and ondanestron which seems to be doing the trick and I feel more like me than I have in weeks. Tired and weak but human. Keep up the good work on here ladies, it's a life saver x

fl0b0t · 08/04/2013 10:48

glossy I've not 100% ruled it out, but I never wanted a big family anyway. I'd actually really like to adopt, so I'd consider that next time, though obviously husband and I would need to discuss in detail. Now I'm feeling a bit better (I did gardening and everything this weekend!) I am settling into and enjoying the pregnancy. My initial worry was that the sickness would be for all 40 weeks as my mum was very sick when pregnant with me.

I'm 17 weeks tomorrow, but still yet to really put on much weight. I'm still below pre-pregnancy weight but bump is progressing nicely.

Hope you guys had an ok weekend and are feeling more sunny xx

LucindaE · 08/04/2013 12:29

honeymoon Oh good! I'm so glad you are feeling better. Another being released on home leave (well, Hyperemesis is like an unfair prison sentence; notonly that, but some people behave as if you are actually somehow bringing it on yourself, ie by nibbling at crisps and sipping at flat coke).
Flo So glad you are up to some gardening, how energetic. The ground is still too frozen here.
Reebok Well,the primroses are late, there's still some about, but I remember you hoping you'd be a lot better when they came out. I wish you were not still being sick, but at least you are up.
Hope Everyone is coping. Apologies to Anyone rudely overlooked.

Lucinda
xx

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Pollaidh · 08/04/2013 17:50

Hello chaps. I've been out of hospital a few days but had a bad experience this time and couldn't face talking about it straight away. Thanks Lucinda and others who persuaded me to see a doctor. It seems like it was 'just in time' as my heart rate was so high the doctor thought my heart wouldn't cope any longer. Strangely I didn't feel as ill as last admission (I was hallucinating that time).

I had a good experience with the NHS walk-in clinic, I was dreading going, but almost collapsing at reception resulted in immediate triage and immediate admission. It went downhill from there as maternity was completely full, so had to go via a packed war-zone style A&E. At one point I was told I might be spending the night in a corridor in A&E but they managed to get me a bed on a mixed surgical ward full of refugees from other, noro-virus infected wards, it wasn't even designed for people to sleep there! The obstetrician who came over was great but otherwise treatment was pretty poor.

There was no handover, I was just brought up to the ward and dumped, and they had no idea why! This meant instead of getting my first fluids and drugs asap it took hours before they put one in and then they put it on the slow rate.

The smells were awful - food waved under my nose, being told I must try to eat, smells of old ladies pooing themselves all around me. I was also mocked by 2 different nurses HCA for not being able to cope with the smell of poo, and for saying I felt sick when they asked why I looked awful (laughed and said, everyone's sick that's why they're in hospital). I tried to explain what HG was but no one seemed to have heard of it.

No chance of sleep, waking me up in the morning for obs and then delaying the drugs/biscuit and when I said I need drugs before I can have breakfast/move they thought I was being 'demanding'.

Finally a nurse refused me the meds prescribed by the obstetrician, on the basis that they weren't suitable for pregnant women. We argued.

Once I'd had 6l of fluid I insisted on leaving as I felt by that point I'd got all there was to be gained and staying longer would make me more ill through lack of rest and lack of/late meds.

Have managed to eat a little the last couple of days, although my resting heart rate is still over 100. I know that next time I will need to go in earlier rather than later, but am absolutely dreading it. It's a shame as I was treated so well at the maternity unit, and they knew exactly how to manage HG.

Sorry, rant over.

Tallyra · 08/04/2013 18:13

Oh Pollaidh, that sounds like absolute hell. I find it hard to believe that any medical professional would laugh at a patient for feeling sick. Have you considered lodging a formal complaint?

honeymoonmum · 08/04/2013 18:38

God pollaidh that is beyond horrific. When you feel well enough you must contact PALS patient advice and liaison service. That is unforgivable and quite frankly inhumane. You poor thing. I was so so lucky and cannot speak highly enough of the staff who treated me. I was very lucky it seems.

PrincessRichards · 08/04/2013 18:45

Pollaidh that's terrible, can't believe they did that too you, maybe you should make a formal complaint. It's terrible that treatment can differ so much from area to area but also from ward to ward. It's sounds like I'm one of the lucky ones as my experiences have been good, it should be the same wherever and these people should feel ashamed treating someone like that!

Rant over

LucindaE · 08/04/2013 19:11

Poll I'm horrified at the neglect, and how dare those nurses mock you?! As soon as you feel up to it, make a formal complaint. I think Pregnancy Sickness Support should hear of it. It's outrageous.
Lucinda
xx

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glossyflower · 08/04/2013 19:26

pollaidh omg that sounds horrific. I would definitely see PALS about that. Poor you. But don't let it put you off from seeking help there again like I did.
My first admission to the maternity unit with HG was awful. Later I put it down to them being busy as it was September (ladies conceiving on New Year's Eve!) not that being busy was an excuse.
They kept giving me tablets but I said I did not think I could keep them down, so they'd just not bother and leave me to it.
I'd get my breakfast at 8am but when asked for my meds to take before I tried eating I'd have to wait my turn. And god forbid if I didn't manage to secure myself iv anti emetics I'd have to wait until they finished the medications round til they prepared the IVs. Usually way past 930am.
I'm a nurse myself and I would never make anybody wait for anti emetics no matter where I was in the drugs round.
The experience put me off going in again and I stayed with my parents for several weeks so they could care for me. I didn't even have the strength to brush my teeth!
Eventually I had no choice but to go back in and my second admission the midwives seemed less stressed and I got better care.

I will say that although the ward you were on might not have experience of HG sufferers...I know it can be difficult as I'm a cardiac nurse and once had to care for someone with malaria (who should have been in intensive care but there was no beds) I was totally out of my depth BUT I made sure I knew what I was doing by keeping the ITU doctors involved and that is totally not an excuse to be unsympathetic. You should definitely complain.

Xxx

honeymoonmum · 08/04/2013 19:44

Ok on a different note. Got home today and I'm feeling really low and distant from DH and DSs. What is wrong with me? I feel regretful about this much wanted third baby and want to disappear to an island by myself. :(

glossyflower · 08/04/2013 19:57

honey I think that's a normal reaction to everything going on. Pregnancy is not easy on our bodies physically as well as emotionally.
Maybe have a talk with DH about how you are feeling, I'm sure he'd be understanding and help you take some time out.
Xxx

glossyflower · 08/04/2013 19:57

And big hugs to you xxx

TiredFeet · 08/04/2013 21:20

Hi, I have been pointed in the direction of this thread. Just spent 24 hours in hospital after I saw gp about my vomiting and there were high levels of ketones. Feel a lot better now but worrying about the weeks to come! I am 7+5. Last pregnancy I was very ill from 7 -12 weeks. Dreading it being the same again, mainly because DS (2.5) is very cross/upset with me for not being around/being ill.

pollaidh that sounds truly unbearable and I really feel for you

honey I feel a bit like that too, it is horrible and isolating

PrincessRichards · 08/04/2013 21:23

Honeymoon that sounds like I feel, apart from my hormones being all over the place and feeling narky all the time I feel very emotional and out of it. It's so hard when you want something so bad and then end up feeling like this Hmm

LucindaE · 08/04/2013 21:58

Tiredfeet Welcome, poor you, you'll find lots of support from eveyrone on here. What meds are you on? I suppose as you're a veteran, you've got kestostix to check those pesky ketones don't get high again.
Honeymoon Hugs. It isn't a wonder y ou feel like that, it's like being hit by a train, and I think depression is a well known physical side effect, anyway. You'll feel different when you feel better and get some strength back.
Hope everyone is coping.
Lucinda
xx

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Haylebop12 · 08/04/2013 22:12

Hi guys, just popping in to say hi. So sorry to hear some of you are in the midst of HG hell. It's so distressing feeling low and useless.

But it does get better (mostly) I'm still on meds although cut down to just cyclizine on highest dose mind. I had a fairly good weekend and made it out to twycross zoo for a few hours. Not done a fat lot today mind. Wishing the data away until I can be off the meds altogether.

13+1 here and 5 admissions so far. Have my dating scan tomorrow and bricking it.

honeymoonmum · 09/04/2013 11:00

Thanks ladies. Feel a but better today as was able to get DSs breakfast and dress them which made me feel more normal and part of their lives. It really is tough having HG and effects every part of you, body and mind. Thanks for words of reassurance and lucinda you hit the nail on the head. It is like being hit by a train. Such a shock. Hugs to all x