Pregnant (IVF) Worriers

[Dildals]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

Morning ladies

Gin, foody, sweetie and crisps I'm sorry you have been struggling with extreme worries. I think that we all felt the same early on. It does get abit easier. Funnily enough it crossed my mind this morning that I'm about to tell work today and now I wish that I'd enjoyed the early days more without worrying so much but that would have been impossible for me.

Gin I'm sorry I can't quite remember have you had an early viability scan or is your 12 week your 1st? Like you I was frantic and convinced that it was an empty sac. But chances are that wont be the case. Try to remind yourself that while, sadly, tragedies happen as we know all too well on this thread, most pregnancies are perfectly fine and healthy.

To get your badge you have to send an email. If you go to tfl you can get the address. It arrives within a few days. Very exciting!

Foody good luck for your exam and scan today. I hope DH makes it ok. It is important for both of you that he is there. Let us know how you get on. Ill be checking in for news.

Sweetie I've been off DTD too but like you miss the intimacy. I think it's normal to feel apprehensive. So much is going on down there especially if you are still on the pessaries. We had a long discussion on the IVF thread about back door entry for the pessaries for that reason!

Crisps. I hope you are feeling better today. Like fairy said you have loads of symptoms and have probably lost weight due to sickness. I'm sorry it's so bad. Have you tried the bands that I mentioned before? Might be worth a go as they are drug free and apparently work.

Fairy 18weeks already! Time flies! Please could you let me know about the magnesium again cause I can't go back easily on the phone. I'm starting a new diet to try to cure my allergies and I can't have prunes and I'm backed up already!

I think a few of us have scans tomorrow so I hope that today passes with not to much worry and anticipation.

I'm down to my last pair of trousers even my old faithfuls were too tight this morning so I really need to take the plunge into elasticated waist bands now. Top shop/h&m here I come

Hello to everyone else. Have a good Monday.

Shaz xxx

shazza I think any kind of magnesium supplements will do. I got mine at Boots, they are a combo of magnesium, vit D and folic acid. You often find calcium plus magnesium because the latter helps you to absorb the former. I find they are working really well, although I am still supplementing with prunes.

dildals I don't think I could buy a used swimming costume off the internet even though rationally I know that if it is washed thoroughly there shouldn't be any risk. When I was pg before a work colleague of mine very kindly gave me a bag of maternity stuff, which included several pairs of enormous post-birth knickers, which were clean but appeared to have been worn (i.e. weren't in a package). I did wear them in extremis when I ran out of my own with a maternity towel but felt a bit odd about it. I couldn't decide though whether I was being weird or if she was!

I would NEVER give anyone knickers I had worn! She's weird!

Postnatal knickers = Asda full briefs at £4 for four in a size up from your usual. I secretly love them and am still wearing them due to section scar tenderness.

Crikey, you girls have been busy!

First of all - hpts. The darkness of the line doesn't mean anything. What matters is that the line comes up within the time frame and preferably quite fast (when you're 5 weeks or more). Also symptoms do come and go. Never read anything into digitals, in fact I'd strongly suggest avoiding them after you've had one good result from them.

Clothes - this convo lost me it moved on so quickly but my two pence is that the mothercare over the bumb leggings are rubbish. They hold their shape for minutes and the elastic goes very quickly so they end up round your knees. Mind you, I don't think I have a very good shape for over the bump stuff. I have no arse and am straight up and down so there's nothing for the band to hold on to really. The h&m jeans are great. Also george at Asda aren't too bad for slobbing around but buy at least one size down because they're enormous. Am very pleased with myself. I found a pair of flowery jeans by chance this weekend and a seamstress (not quite the correct translation but can't think what it is) is putting in panels so they can be comfy under the bump for 15 euros. Also found a flowery top which is nice and floaty over the bump - no idea who would wear this if you werent pregnant. Also I got a couple of pairs of super cheap summer trousers in a huge size and took them in under the waist so they tuck in under the bump. For work I have a pair of next slim band trousers. They're okay and as I don't intend to wear them afterwards I don't care - will wear them to death and then chuck.

Foody, I'm wishing you all the best for your scan. And anyone else who is having a fear day. I've been struggling to hold it together for the last few days and tomorrow's scan can't come fast enough.

Fairy, really love thought to think of your baby knocking to say hello.

Shazza, sorry to hear you're struggling. What allergies do you have?

Good luck for all you people having scans today, tomorrow and rest of week.

I have my 20 week scan next week Friday and am excited!

I had a MW appt today and heard the 2 heartbeats gallopping away, so they are still both in there! I still get insanely excited by this. And hi-fiving myself for high iron levels, keep that brocolli coming luv.

Crisps That is a horrible experience you had at your 20 wk scan. Did you have any clues beforehand that something was amiss or was it a complete shock? Did it affect your DD at all, or can a pregnancy simply continue with only one twin, without any complications?

I sort of feel that I am 'hedging my bets' with twins. If something is wrong with one of them, I have spare one going.

Fairy thanks for the magnesium info. Ill check it out.

Mariana I remember about those knickers now cause your DH was worried about being mistaken for a transvestite when he got them for you!
Expat I'm sorry you are feeling worried. Anything in particular or just general anxiety? Luckily you have the scan tomorrow. We love a scan to alleviate worries!

I suffer from a condition called chronic idiopathic urticaria which is a fancy name for permanent hives. Not life threatening but very upsetting and uncomfortable. I spend a lot of my day in the bathroom putting cold compresses on my skin. I'm trying to cure myself with food as I don't want to take antihistamine every day. It isn't good for fertility and even now I'm pg I don't want to take it endlessly. Ive been eliminating various foods since jan with no luck so far (except getting pregnant of course!) so I'm now researching low histamine diets to try to lower the level of histamine in my body. My main worry is getting protein and calcium for shazlett cause I'm not eating dairy. Hence the rice milk, hemp protein powder etc. I'm always thinking about food and considering every single thing I eat and it's nutritional value.

Dildals. 20 weeks! Gosh it's going so quickly. How exciting. Well done for heartbeats and iron levels.

I told my colleagues today and they cried! So of course so did I. They got me a card and flowers at lunchtime so ive had a lovely day. It makes it all very exciting and real.

I'm also pleased with myself cause I got up at 5.50am and did one of the 10min Pilates workouts from my new DVD. Blimey it's intense but good. The teacher is 30odd weeks and isn't hindered by her bump at all. I felt concerned about hurting the baby but if she can do it then gradually ill be able to as well. my plan is to do a different one each morning. There are 5.

I hope that everyone is feeling better today. Tomorrow is nearly here.
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Hi Shazza, that sounds really uncomfortable. I should think it's no win - nasty both in summer heat and winter dryness. I'm the same about dairy because it triggers migraines for me. Have you tried tescos mini dried figs? They are delish, especially in salads. The magnesium calcium complexe would probably be perfect for you then. Can you eat oats? If so, porridge made with rice or oat milk would probably be nice. Your colleagues sound lovely Sorry about the ramble - v busy at work so don't really have time to think through what I'm saying.

I think I'm just struggling because it's getting close to 25 weeks when it all started going wrong before. There's nothing I can do but tick off the days. This feels like no mans land - so close but if disaster strikes there's nothing to be done.

Foody, is there any news?

Hi guys!! thanks for your thoughts.All went really well today, DP had the whole day so met me there (I had to go into uni this morning for a couple of practical/OSCE exams).
One very little bean with a fluttering heart .
DP was all teary and very lovely, think it is real for him now!
went for a nice lunch, think its still sinking in. Have formally banned myself from any more poas or googling/searching at every little change. Need to try to enjoy this for what it is now!!!

Re clothes - have just popped in to M&S and ASDA for some tankini shorts, M&S had none, so got 3 pairs in ASDA, walked past their mat section and it did kind of look ok?? very far off for me yet, but will be ok for some basics i think.
Oh also got another couple of crop top bras in M&S to sleep in as got some last week and they are ace for achey, tender boobs!!

good luck to all those with scan coming up this week, fx

foody that's so awesome. It must be amazing. You are right to ban ourself from poas...I am on the wagon and giving them up now. Stupid stressful things! Well done and hope you can enjoy it a little more now iykwim.

dildals I did have a night where I felt really I'll at about 17 weeks. I took a couple of days off and went to see the GP who said everything was fine but he is a dismissive chauvanistic fuckwit. Then at my 20 wk scan we found that we had lost one Dd a couple of weeks previously. It was devastating. However it was also really unusual...the hosp said it was incredibly rare, esp so late. Apparently twin probs are usually either v early or v late and can be fixed by being induced/c section. T was a chromosomal problem, i.e. she wasn't able to develop any further. There would have been a real risk of losing my other DD as usually in these cases due to the body thinking the pregnancy was over, but thankfully (and I am so thankful) we had already gone two weeks past this point so most of the risk had minimised. They advised me to lie still and try to get to 34wks and scanned me every few weeks. When I got to 34 they said aim for my due date...and I had dd at midday on my due date . I am quite a mind-over-matter kind of person!
Don't let this worry you about your twinnies. Please remember a) this was ridiculously rare...they don't even know much about it and it hardly ever happens so late on, b) it actually happened at 17wks which is when chromosomal problems will present...you are already past this stage! C) you have heard two heartbeats, that is proof enough! We bought one of those heartbeat monitor things which was a pain in the arse to make it work but stopped me from mentalling 24/7. I think things only affect two if they are identical (I assume yours aren't from you being on the ivf thread). Tamba is great for info on this. Do you know what you are having yet? Are you going o find out?

shazza thanks. Feeling much more positive today. Am going cold turkey on the hpts and trying to look forward to tomorrow rather than dread it. I found mat clothes in some odd places when I was having dd...peacocks being one, are they even still around? Everything I have seen so far is horrifically mumsy though, not looking forward to a frumpy 2013. Going to get some of those bands, they were good last time I remember.

Hi and thanks for hand holding to everyone else. Back off to work now for late meeting, scan tomorrow. Hoping to be chilled and happy by this time tomorrow!

Foody how amazing! It's so nice to see that heartbeat isn't it. Well done you.
Expat I know there'll be nothing I can say to make you feel any more relaxed, only that you know that rationally it's HIGHLY unlikely for anything to go wrong? How often do you get to hear the heartbeat/ get scanned out in Belgium?
Shaz poor you, permanent hives sounds horrid. I'm in awe of you for giving up dairy (it's my favourite thing) but then I think I would too if it helped. Well done on your pilates! I seriously need to step up the exercise I think! And hurrah for lovely colleagues!
Dildals that is SO exciting about your impending scan! Sorry if you've said before but are you going to find out the sex of each?
Fairy I love the idea of your first baby knocking on your tummy to say hello!
Gin I totally got the fear between 7 and 10 weeks. That's why I personally stumped up for another scan as I found it easier to get through 3 weeks than 5. Since Weds I've been fine mentally, but today the fear has returned and I'm now worried about the 12 wk scan a week on Thursday. I don't think I'll ever relax through this whole thing!! Think someone else has already said but yes, you just google 'baby on board' at tfl and you can drop them an email with your name and address (unless you pass through a tube station in which case you can just collect one in person). I ordered via email and it came really quickly (within a few days). Now I just want to wear it but feel superstitious about doing so before the 12 wk scan (which is ridiculous if you consider that I've booked onto NCT and into a hypnobirthing class FFS!)
Crisps I do think you are being overly cautious but don't worry, it's natural to worry! As you can see from the rest of us!
Hi sweetie and marianax

Foody that is great news, even better that DH could make it too.

Expat just take things a day at a time, my thoughts are with you at this difficult time

Shazza permanent hives sound grim, hope the lack of dairy makes a difference. I have done pilates for years but stopped when we started our treatment. I was a little sceptical about all the abs work we do in the class I go to. I would like to go back but might wait until I am a bit further along. I have seen those DVDs that are 10 mins for pregnancy so may give those a go instead. Lovely that you all had a cry when you announced your pregnancy, I can not imagine my mostly male colleagues having that sort of reaction.

Dildals great news on the heartbeats, that must be so reassuring. Not long until your next scan either.

Crisps good luck for your scan tomorrow, what time is your appointment?

I have our 7 week scan tomorrow at 3.30 too. I am wavering between excitement and fear. I have had nothing to say I am not pregnant, no spotting and continued positive pee sticks. Then I think I don't really feel pregnant other than sore boobs and the odd symptom that I would normally just write off as one of those things had we not had our treatment. I keep asking DH how he feels and he seems quite excited about going to see what is going on and how many are in there
During a moment of positivity earlier I did have a look on ASOS maternity section. There are a few items I would consider ordering but of course need to try on. I wear mostly dresses/tunics with skinny jeans/leggings/tights so am hoping I can get away with getting maternity leggings or skinny jeans to see me through with my current baggier tunics for quite a while. Also if all is well tomorrow I am going to have to sort out some soft bras to sleep in as that seems when my boobs are at their most uncomfortable. Anyone got any suggestions?

Good luck for tomorrow Sweetie!

sweetie M&S crop top bras, £12.50 for 2! they have a quite a large range on sports bras too whick are a bit thicker, but i wanted something cool to wear under pj's, have jus bought another couple today.
they come in small, med large, x large. I am size 10-12/34b before pg so got medium and they fit ok. bit tighter than i thought med would be so try on if you can!!

sweetie
www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/sp+2-pack-maternity-sleep-bras+a9252
look prety good too! a few others on the same site too!

all some really nice looking swim wear and ok clothing too
www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/sp+2-pack-maternity-sleep-bras+a9252

2pm tomorrow...nervous but getting excited now. May even splash out on some big pants if all is well and I am feeling particularly frivolous!!
sweetie I'm at nurture, are you? Just wondered as I think they are doing a whole afternoon of 7wk scanning tomorrow. also trying not to think about whether it is one or two or even bloody three

Foody that is amazing news. I'm so happy for you. It is a very special moment to share together. I'm so pleased that DP made it and you could enjoy the day together. You don't need the POASs now. You have your bean on board.

Expat I'm sorry it's a difficult time. It's easy to say but I guess try to take it day by day. You have come so far and this little one will make it through. Thanks for the fig info. Unfortunately on the low histamine diet dried fruit is out for now. That's why no prunes. Ill try the mag/calcium complex. I ordered extra broccoli in my veg box this week.

Crisps you went through a terrible unimaginable experience. Glad you are feeling better today. There is a peacocks on Streatham high st they didn't seem to have anything but to be honest I was losing the will by then so i didnt have a thorough look. Good luck for the scan tomorrow. Is there a chance you could have double bubble in there? How many embies did you have put back? How exciting!

MrsH I understand the worry for the 12 week scan. It's a big one and so worrying. The hives are annoying and frustrating but I'm determined not to give up. My arms hurt this morning after 10 mins of Pilates!

Sweetie you have symptoms so you are definitely pg. good luck for tomorrow. it is magical to see the bean/s finally and imagine if you have 2 on board! Double the celebration. This thread will be swimming with twins

I've had such a nice day. It was funny cause so many people asked me what the flowers were for. A woman who I don't really know came by my desk and asked so I told her. She congratulated me and then asked how much mat leave I was going to take!! She's not in our team and isn't even from our floor!

I'm going to bed now. Getting up again early to do Pilates again.

X

Ps keep haven't you got a scan tomorrow also? Good luck. Ill be tuning in to get all your news.

Good luck for scans tomorrow, the odds are on everyone's sides!

I love Bodysilk maternity / nursing bras. They stretch with you so don't need to be fitted by cup size etc. I wear one at night as well as them being my favoured choice for daytime.

expat and crisps, it's really hard getting through the time when you've had a loss before. Even though my 20 week scan was ok this time AND I'd had a clear CVS I still found 22 weeks very upsetting and was grieving all over again. It passes though.

Shazz, great that you could tell work and that they were so kind. Hives are awful, I come up in them sometimes. I'm loving the almond milk etc, I want to try bak

Stupid phone!

...baking too. I'm just feeding madam and there's been no colic tonight either (so far, touch wood etc.)

Morning girls

So pleased you had a better night Mariana. I'm torn between wanting to be in your position with my DC here and well and wanting to relish the next 6 months of preparing and anticipation. Glad you are enjoying the milks. You get used to the change quickly. I find cows milk very 'clacky' in my mouth now. Still miss cheese though, oh and ice cream!!

Good luck everyone for today. I'll be thinking of you all Up and down the country and abroad laying in darkened rooms looking at jumping beans on a flickering screen

I did 20 mins Pilates this morning. I desperately didn't want to get up and do it but I'm so glad I did I can really feel my body now. Dildals you do Pilates don't you? It felt funny doing the core work. Rolling up and down working the abs. It's not squishing the baby is it? I know that's silly cause the teacher on the video has a huge bump. I'm going to have abs of steel at this point. I know I have a six pack in there somewhere!!!
X

No scan here shaz, not till next Sat...

Good luck to all today, and well done foody!

Am going on hols tonight, but will pop in for news when I can.

Oh I got confused keep! Have a super holiday. X

Hi all, scan was great - everything as it should be. Thanks so much for all your lovely words. Sometimes I just need a good cry and to remember my boy. This one should have a big brother though and I find it hard.

Crisps and Sweetie, hoping all goes well with your scan.

Shazza, I do pilates and no it doesn't squish baby and is great for pelvic floor and keeping all that area stable. The exercises on your hands and knees are really nice too when you get further along. I've just googled anti histamine diet and it's really interesting. It's amazing I haven't heard of it before with all my allergies (pretty minor) and will be giving it a go too.

Mariana, glad baby girl had an easier night. Did you wear body silk bras when you were pregnant too? I think I read that you have big boobs, is that right? I'm 36G normally and wondering what to wear. I need underwired and am thinking of giving Anita bras a go and I've heard good things about elomi but they look pretty matronly. Maybe I won't care about anything but comfort then. I had to pump before and on about the 3rd day I've never had such lumpy and huge boobs, so massive my back really ached - made me realise I need to get organised this time.

Thats fab news expat.You must be exhusted with all the worry . Bit teary just thinking aout you TBH, stay strong and be good to yourself, hugs