Pregnant (IVF) Worriers

[Dildals]

Hi everyone,

This thread is for all you incessant worriers out there, not necessarily limited to IVF-ers, although I get the feeling the people who have had trouble TTC are more prone to worrying than others!

A few of us graduated from the IVF thread (link below) and are having a go at our own thread to get out of the other IVF-ers hair! So get your roomy jogging bottoms on for some virtual hand holding, mutual symptom spotting and staying sane until the next scan date.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1691674-Excellent-Egg-Buddies-continued-Anyone-having-IVF-ICSI-in-Jan-Feb-and-March-2013-please-join-us

Feeling fine now, thanks!, was wierd had eaten, no real explaination for it (also I am a nurse so would make rubbish patient!)
Expat - glad you feeling better now, listen to your body and eat, eat, eat!!
had a lovely BBQ (all well cooked), not the healthiest, but hey, don't eat like that every day so its ok (though am out for tea again tomorrow and might bake a cake).
Re lady garden stuff - generally I go through phases of being arsed/motivated about it or not, guess I will see how I feel nearer the time. But wont be going out of my way for anyine else benefit.
Re telling people I have told a couple of people, one girl I am close to at work and my best friend from when we were kids. they are not involved in my family or regular/close social group. My sister knew we had been trying for a long time but dont think I will tell her till 12weeks. Also have friends who are going through adoption process at the moment (many failed IVF cycles -seems its not happening for them) so want to be careful about how she finds out (i.e.by me, in person) and prob wont tell her till 12 weeks either. She has been so supportive as she is one of the few people who knew we were having difficulties, would hate for her to hear it from someone else so have made OH promise to discuss with me first who he talks to ( I have some increadibly tactless friends), though I understand he needs someone to talk to thats not me.

Hello girls

I hope you are having a good day.

I'm on. Up and down but am currently on computer doing tasks busying myself.

Expat thanks for your thoughts. I think you could be right. I still have a hard time pushing away the 'this cant be true we must have made a mistake' thoughts. I keep thinking I'm going to wake up and it's been a dream or someone will tell me it's a joke. And I was considering donor eggs if IVF didn't work and here I am with one of my eggs fertilised. What if it was not good quality due to age? All these things worry me. But time is passing and the waiting isn't too bad now.

I'm sorry you were poorly. I'm glad you are better. Eat up! You must have lost weight being ill so you need to get your energy back up.

Sweetie I'm so jealous of your declutter. That's a massive job that needs to be done here. I keep threatening to eBay stuff and never get round to it. At this rate ill hire a skip and chuck the lot.

Foody I'm glad you are ok and had a good night. It is kind that you are sensitive to your friend. I guess we have to consider how we would want to hear the news.

I hope everyone else is ok.

Shazza xxx

Hi all, I'm fine, have just been at the beach... Thank you for thinking of me.

shaz, just four days now. Hang in there. I have totally been freaking myself out with all the things that can go wrong, and v scared of it all in just under three weeks at 13+1. Argh.

Dh is just so excited now, and though I am too there are times when I think I don't want us to get carried away.

Was I OTT at the weekend when I refused to get in a (v bumpy) speedboat? Instead taking a v slow ferry? I just don't know.

I am also worried about calcium as there is so little dairy here. But I think the baby takes what it needs and leaves you deficient if there's not enough.

sweetie, is it 8 days now till scan?

Hi Keep, glad you're ok. In the UK all pregnant women should be prescribed vit d and calcium supplements now as NICE recommended it a couple of years ago. Not all GPs are aware of this though. I only took them sporadically as they added to my digestive problems but I get lots (probably too much) dairy. It's supposed to be more important in the third trimester and also for people who don't get much sunlight.

I wouldn't have got in the speedboat either!

Hope you're ok Shaz. Try to enjoy the bank holiday.

Hi Keep, glad you're okay. We're all a bunch of cluckers here . Although in theory the baby will take what it needs if you're deficient in something the baby will be too. I would have thought your vit d would be good living under that lovely sun. Isn't thai food high in veg and fruit? Also good sauce of calcium. Figs are especially good.

Crisps, I'm sorry for your loss. I lost a boy at 25 weeks and it was hard. We hadn't bought anything by then because we were being 'cool and cautious' but it made absolutely no difference to how devastated we were and how loved he was. This time we're definitely out to celebrate (or at least fake it till you make it) - loving the bump and counting down the weeks - being as brave as possible.

I'm very jealous of all you girls being off today. It's gorgeously sunny here so I assume it's the same with you.

Shazza, not long to go now. It wasn't a mistake you are definitely preggers and you obviously make fantastic eggs. Strut your stuff fertile lady!!

Sweetie, doesn't it feel great to declutter? You always wonder why you hung on to certain stuff for so long. It's badly needed in our home. Where will you be moving to?

Hello everyone

Keep I don't eat dairy and have also been worrying about calcium. My nutritionist said to eat the following

Broccoli
Almonds
Quinoa
Sesame seeds/ tahini
Lots of green veg
Tinned sardines (x2 a week)

All are great sources of calcium. Try for a few portions a day.

I'm glad you are ok and had a nice holiday. I wouldn't have taken a speed boat either.

When is your nuchal scan?

Thanks for the thought Mariana. I'm ok today. I'm currently working on an art project which is great and inspiring me. It's something I've wanted to do for ages.

In the spirit of Keeping positive about this pregnancy, I bought 3 pregnancy DVDs yesterday. They were recommended on MN. Erin o'brien complete pregnancy fitness, prenatal vinyasa yoga short forms and 10 minute Pilates. It was only £21 for all 3. My plan is to do 10 mins of Pilates before work and then alternate with fitness and yoga in the evenings with something longer at weekends. I hope I haven't left it too late to start. I know that dildals has said that she is already on her way with Tracy Anderson!

Thank heavens for bank holidays. I'm going to the studio with DP now. I'm having a proper arty day!
X

Oooh yes, tahini is great for calcium very high! And any kind of little fish you eat whole. How could I forget.

HI
shazza I have just signed up for this -www.pilatesod.com/
works out 14 day free trial then £11 a month - its a site with 'on demand' pilates classes to do in your own home. Used NMEALING as a vouchercode from signing up to netmums (only reason I singed up to netmuns).
looks good, as i am only 5.5 I am just gping to have a bit of a look around it and try few things. was doing the 30 day shred when I got my BFP and have not done any exercise since apart from a swim (30 DS is pretty intense with lots of jumping and hard core abs so I thought i better stop it).
And enjoy your art, I am desperately wanting to do some painting but have much much typing and reading to do for a couple of assignments due very soon.
Sooo difficult to concentrate, bot sure if i am just totally preoccupied with being pg or if I habe very early baby brain, nauseas a bit distractiong too, only thing that helps is eating - will be size of house soon!
keep glad you ok, and there is no way I would have gone on a speed boat, most wont take you if they know you are pg anyway!
Happy BH everyone (she says sitting inside trying to write essay looking dreamily out the window...)

Ok and tinned sardines are good, but remember if you have 2 portions a week then that is probably it for oily fish! (general fish advice - Stick to white fish and keep oily fish intake (mackerel, salmon, tuna, sardines) to 2?3 portions a week.)

Shazza why would you have left it too late? Lots of preg pilates / yoga only want you to start after 3 months and it is never too late to start an exercise regime.

I went to visit my friend yesterday who just had a baby. It made me realise that I totally don't relate to babies, never have either. I am super happy about this pregnancy, but the whole concept of two babies coming out after a couple of months is not something I think my brain has totally cottoned on to yet! I am not worried, I am sure I will fall totally in love when them when I see them (I think the falling in love has already happened - refer to earlier post on crying over toys in the bookshop :-)) but it's weird ... I was looking at her baby and I didn't really feel inclined to hold it or coo over it. I guess I shouldn't expect to all of a sudden change in to a baby-cooer, just because I am pregnant.

On the food thing - every day I worry about whether I have eaten too much or too little, it drives me nuts. Every night I ask DH whether he thinks I have eaten too much / too little. He doesn't even look up from the sports section and says 'no' :-). I have bought some flaxseed, because of the protein content and fatty acids. Being it for the protein content is a bit daft of course because you would need to eat buckets of the stuff to get lots in! My diet is generally healthy and I try to make my snacks count, meaning that I don't eat high sugar bars (even those 'natural' ones are basically just sugar) but healthy snacks such as oat cakes and humus, yoghurt or fruit. But I can't help myself in the evening especially after dinner to get nuts on the chocolate. I have 2 distinct flaws in my character, and they are called Cadbury Fruit & Nut and chocolate digestives. I try and tell myself that I am bound to need more calories with twins, but still not convinced Cadbury F&N is the right answer!

Hi everyone

Dildals I'm very lazy with exercise and find it hard to get going do I thought maybe I am 3 months behind but if you say that the advice is to start at 3 months then I feel much better. I hope I see and feel results. I need results for motivation!

I have read the food bit in all the books over and over. I reckon if we are eating healthily and as you say snacking healthily then that's ok. I'm lucky cause am not eating choc so don't have that temptation BUT I did make some yummy oat and coconut cookies yesterday which are amazing and I had 4 yesterday! Oops. Making snacks count is a good idea. I've found that chopping up a bowl of fruit salad and keeping it in the fridge makes me more likely to eat fruit rather than picking up an apple. And I am drinking a glass of OJ as I write.

Thanks for the link foody. I'll check it out. I'm looking forward to my DVDs arriving.

X

Oh and dildals I totally get the baby thing. It will be different when they are your own. I simply can't imagine having one pop out but when it does hopefully it will all fall into place.

Luckily nature makes sure your own baby is the most wonderful thing you have ever seen. You actually feel sorry for other mothers as their baby is not as beautiful as yours!

Your diets all sound marvellous. I think it's about 25% of pregnant women these days are obese according to BMI. The midwives are always very happy to meet someone who eats healthily and only puts on the required weight. For what it's worth I just followed my appetite and often had crackers and cheese in the evenings as an extra, I also ate chocolate biscuits probably every day but always got my 5 a day and my meals were all pretty healthy, and we only eat meat three times a week. I put on exactly 2 stone and I'm still carrying an extra stone but that will shift as I breastfeed.

Glorious day here. I'm considering buying a barbecue!

Dildals I am the same, I have never felt a maternal pull as such or wanted to coo over someone elses baby. Give me a puppy any day. I too am hoping this will all change when my own comes along. I can not imagine my/our future without a child which is why we have fought so hard for this. I am sure Mariana is right that when our babies are born there will not be another to match ours.

I am another dairy avoider. I just don't like milk, cheese or cream. I have tried to up my green vedg, although ate a lot of broccoli, spinach and asparagus before, and think about making sure I have my 5 a day now. I have bought some babybels this week, as I think they are pretty easy to have to hand. I also actually like cottage cheese too, bizarre I know. I have been having dates and prunes as snacks, I am not a big fruit lover either but Shazza I am going to try your idea of keep a fruit salad in the fridge.

Keep I also have sunburn but down my shins. We took dog for a long walk this morning and I dared air my legs for the first time in a very long time. I didn't put any sun cream on as we had packed it off to our storage container. I am off for a shower soon to try to take the sting out of it.

Really tetchy and irritable today, my poor OH can't do anything right!
trying desperately to concentrate on essay and its not going well (clearly, i am on here again!). feeling sicky all the time unless i am eating.
soo tired, but naps have been making me feel worse so been trying not too. I am such a whingebag when I just need to sort myself out and get on with it.
Having such difficulty concentrating on what i am writing and when i am reading i forget what i was looking for in that article, ahhhhh isn't quite right, but grrrrr.
sorry rant over (for now)
mmm, tea soon

Just spent a happy sunny day gardening but now my lower back is killing me. Definitely pg related as I've never had it before just from weeding a d planting.

If any of you are troubled by constipation I have found the perfect remedy- magnesium supplements. A friend of my recommended them and I have a tablet that combines magnesium, calcium, vit D and folic acid, so everything you need really. One tablet at night and no problems with the intestinal transit time ever since! And no side effects as far as I have been able to discover.

Morning what a Beautiful day!

Mariana a stone doesn't sound like much to lose. Did you get a BBQ? I'm envious we don't have a garden I'd love to have relaxed in the garden yesterday.

Mind you fairy your gardening doesn't sound relaxing. How is your back? My nutritionist told me that many people nowadays are deficient in magnesium. She suggested DP take it. Apparently it is also good for reducing stress and anxiety. Especially if it is giving you headaches I didn't know about the constipation effect so thanks for that. We have a massive tub of it at home so ill tuck in if I get stuck (as it were!)

Foody I really sympathise with the symptoms. It must be hard to study with the pg symptoms and the sunshine. It does get better though I promise. Suddenly they have all gone. I am still asleep by 9.30pm but the urge to nap in the afternoon has got much better. Although actually I am still very moody!

Sweetie sunburn on the shins is painful and so easily done. Especially if you think that it's not too hot and you should be fine.

Hello to everyone else. I hope you all had a good weekend.

Fine in my camp. Got first NHS scan tomorrow but we are opting out of nuchal bit cause we've got that on Friday and FMC advised not to double up and confuse results. Are all these scans ok do you think? There are mixed reports out there. Obviously after Friday it will slow down and we probably won't have another one til 20 weeks .

Have a good day ladies. Only 4 days to go til the weekend x

Don't know if it's true but read that a diet high in magnesium helps massively with morning sickness too.

Shaz I think it'll be easier not to have scans by then, as you'll have the reassurance of a growing bump. What's the NHS scan for, if not nuchal? Just dating?

Hi keep

I guess so. I was going to cancel cause I've had 2 dating scans already at Guys ACU and FMC but this is my first one at st Thomas' so I thought I'd go and meet the team and get on their radar. Do you think that's ok? Plus it will be nice to see shazlett .

That's interesting expat. I wonder what foods are high in magnesium? I'll look it up.

Work is very very quiet today. Most of the team are off site. Just on a day when I need to keep busy. I don't know what to do with myself!

I don't think there's any harm. Plus the NHS prob want you in 'their' system... Enjoy!

Hi all. I agree with Keep that it's probably good to get in the NHS system Shazza. Don't you get given a folder or something like that at this apt too? I have asked a couple of times about the scans and was told it's fine. It definitely gets easier when you feel regular movement.

Thanks girls I feel better now. I can't wait to see the little Pip again!

Expat I got a folder at my booking appt. that's why I want to go tomorrow. The private appts don't go in the official book although of course they give me a report to keep.

Hi all, someone suggested I posted in here too. I've just got my very unexpected bfp after 5 years of trying. I was on day 3 of the nasel spray for downregging for ivf no 2 and I only tested as I'd joined an exercise class and my dp wanted me to test. You can imagine our shock (a lovely shock) but it still doesn't seem real.
I did cheap tests up until mon (day of af) and we then did a clear blue digi and I'm 2-3 weeks. I know this wasn't ivf but after years of tears and heartache I'm so terrified something will go wrong. I know this is normal but my god I've never worried so much in my life!!! Congrats to all u ladies too xx

Hello blondebaby
Welcome and congratulations! Wonderful news. I completely understand what you are going through because the same happened to me! After 2.5 yrs trying I got a BFP 9 days into down regging. Like you I simply couldn't believe it and still don't in a way even though I'm 12+4 now. I keep thinking someone has made a mistake. I've still got a fridge full of stimming drugs.

But it IS real and you are most welcome here. Which clinic were you in? Have they offered you an early scan?

How do you feel in yourself? Take it day by day and feel free to share your worries here. We all understand.

Congratulations again.

Shazza x