Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Thanks Lucinda
Yes it is Buccastem. I put it under my lip but don't swallow it.
I think the one this morning didn't do much, as I puked up within half an hour of putting it there. Second one didn't seem to help nausea, but I didn't vomit this afternoon (despite feeling that I would).
I think you're right LittleMissSnowShine ...evenings seem to be "my time". I don't feel great, but I definitely don't feel as bad as I felt today.

Thanks also for the advice re: the doctor, Lucinda. I'll see how this goes. I think I was very lucky that he was so sympathetic when I went, as I have read about other GPs that weren't so good.

fl0b0t and LittleMiss I have basically done as little as possible today, and was also sat with the 2 DCs at one point today showing Peppa Pigs in quick succession!! Luckily my MIL is staying right now, so it takes off the heat a bit.

Gosh! I'km so glad I found this thread. I was feeling so sorry for myself!! :)

Reebok , I saw that you're a teacher and am full of admiration for you.
I am too (secondary) and am signed off at the moment. Don't know what I'm going to do when I have to go back....
well done you!

reebok I am so impressed- well done you!

I had rice for dinner..... :-S

Also, I'm very jealous of "times of day" as I'm yet to find a good time of day. I had an afternoon nap (during Die Hard 1) which I felt better during, but then sadly woke up! BLEARGH!

Thanks Flobot and crikey! I've had lots of help luckily from the extra adults in my room so I can crash when I need to...which is often. Been off since 6 weeks and finally made it back at 15 weeks this Monday. Think HG is starting to subside (hopefully!!!)

Don't think about work yet crikey. Concentrate on getting better. I was kind of pressured into going back unfortunately as haven't got a very supportive boss. :( don't quite feel human yet but slightly more normal than I have in a long time...dunno if that makes sense. My brain isn't working!

Hello, could I join? I got sent here by a lovely lady on the due August thread (thanks littlemisssnowshine) I have been home half an hour after begging to be discharged after a spell in hospital. Basically I tried to battle through everything and ended up so poorly that when I finally got myself to the GP on wednesday morning I got rushed to hospital in an ambulance I have been on IV fluids (8 litres), IV ondansetron and cyclizine and also blood thinning jabs as the dehydration had made my blood a bit clotty. It's been horrible. I begged to get out as my DCs were missing me so much, and they agreed on the promise I get in touch as soon as I start to get dehydrated. Have also been signed off work, for 2 weeks to start with.

So, the plan is lots of sleeping and sipping water as often as I can and nibbling on small amounts of food. I'm 14 + 4 and hoping that I don't have too much longer of this!

Waves at waves

waves that sounds awful! I'm determined to get on top of this and not end up in hosp!

I don't know what to do with myself until Dr appt on Monday..... Any advice at all? I'm not sure i can cry and vomit through 2 1/2 more days.....

Flo You poor thing, it sounds bad. How often is the puking? can you still retina liquids? Are ketones creeping up? Do keep us informed. Are ice lollies, ice cubes and sips of flat coke no use at all?
Waves Misssnowsine said you were in hopsital, poor you, welcome to the Thread Nobody Wants to Need, I'll just bring in some cushions and hopefully a bowl wont be required! My goodness, given how blase GP's tend to be about dehydration, I hate to think how high those ketones must have been!
Back soon.
Lucinda
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Thanks lucinda-seem to be retaining liquids ok, only vomiting 2-3 times a day, usually well after I've eaten so not much comes up. I can handle the actual vomiting ok, but the nausea is overwhelming. Nothing seems to help, and anything other than water heightens the nasty taste in my mouth :(

Flo I've just thought of something - silly me - you can get cyclazine over the counter if you don't admit to being pregnant. Insanely, if you do they won't give it to you. Could you get some of that to tide you over? You don't need to tell the GP on Monday!
Waves I hope you saw message below. Still horrified at how ill you must have been.
Belle Did you say you nearly died last time? You brave thing for gong through it again. Aagh! I hope puking has settled down. Those Public Puking Performances are the worst. If I went back to Ealing, those bins would shrink away from me( but they've been replaced by ones with lids now).
Lotta How are things now? Is the puking settling down?

BelleI so agree that the Duchess will have all sorts of expensive treatments probably unguessed at by NHS patients available to her, with money no object. Plus, don't discount a judicious bit of photoshop for making her look healthy. It would be much better publicity if she looked really ill, the high publicity is a double edged sword and I'm still at woman here being asked why they don't make an effort, and put make up on.
Reebok I missed that bit about baby moving. I felt the movements at fourteen weeks too, that little flutter was the beginning, isn't it sweet? I think if you are slight (and one becomes a lot more so before turning into a balloon) then you are meant to feel it very early. Some people don't feel it until about nineteen weeks, it seems to vary so.
Crikee How are things today?
Gatorade are you still feeling a bit better?
Room I hope not too exhausted, looking after those LO's?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
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Ah so it's possible lucinda that I've felt movement. Had it again today and was trying so hard to concentrate and see if was flutters or just gas! Lol don't think it was gas. Gets so annoying when you think you've felt something and the doc or midwife says no, not possible at 15/16 weeks! Grrr

Good news so far guys....woke up feeling almost normal again. Was starving but didn't feel sick for once! And so far, so good. Like Room a few weeks ago, I sat there confused in search of my HG! Looks like early recovery is possible ladies!! Hopefully! *
looks around anxiously in case hG decides to make an unfortunate return...

Lucinda: sort of. I had HG pretty badly in my last pg, right up until the day I gave birth :(.

As a consequence, I was very depleted of nutrients and very dehydrated for a long time, and immobile/bedridden for many months. When DS was about 5 months old I went back to work (I was the only earner at the time) and a few days after returning, I tripped on my way into work and broke my foot. As a result of being immobilised again, I got a massive DVT in my leg, which was misdiagnosed as cramp. The clot shifted and shattered in my heart, ended up in several pieces in my lungs. My baby woke me up in the night and I realised I couldn't breathe. He saved me life :)

After it all happened, my consultant traced it back to the HG. I was very dehydrated for a long time and this can, as waves said, thicken the blood. Just lots of risk markers got missed in my case, but it's made things tricky this time around. I just knew I would have it again, so I've been medicated very early, and at the first sign working was making me worse, I've been signed off straight away. I'm on daily blood thinning injections, I wear support stockings, and I have foot and leg exercises to do. I can't have the home birth I wanted but I'm ok with that - I'll be particularly high risk after the birth and may not be allowed to breastfeed (although we are looking into that - I'll be really gutted if I can't bf this time). I'm also now a consultant-led pg and I am expecting LOTS of hospital appointments in the next few weeks.

I wish so much I'd known this could happen. I wouldn't have tried to soldier on as long as I did, I'd have demanded meds sooner, etc etc. The key focus this time is making certain I don't get dehydrated. It's tricky but I'm keeping fluid in ok at the moment. Now I'm off work and can lie down all day, I can let the meds do their thing and am now only throwing up twice or maybe three times a day, although the nausea and dizziness are awful.

Tubes tied after this one!

Ps can anyone tell me about the use of antihistamines in HG? And vitamin B6? What are they supposed to do?

belle that sounds terrifying! I'm amazed you're doing it again-very brave!

lucinda if I can stick it out til Monday I will, but if tomorrow is bad I will consider the cyclazine. What would I have to say to get hold.of it? Just say I've been sick?

Had another crappy day but enjoyed the rugby. Had a friend over who was wiped out with a virus for 2 weeks so he didn't ask any awkward questions.

Booked an early private scan for tuesdy :) now I'm checking for twins! Been sick since 5 eke so who knows?

Belle - Cyclizine is an antihistamine, v common in treatment of HG. I've taken it in all 3 pgs but this time round it hasn't been as helpful so i'm taking Stetemil instead. But ask me anything you want about cyclizine lol Think it's considered fairly safe, it's a pretty common first treatment, can be taken in tablet form or administered via IV and I was given it as an injection too once. Main side effect is drowsiness, and it's not effective for everyone.. Wow, that's scary about the clot :( Glad they are keeping a v close eye on you this time.

flobot - oh good luck with scan!! Twins! Wow, you never know! I have bucked all the trends - HG supposed to be a higher risk for first time mums but I've had it in all 3 pgs. HG meant to be worse for multiple pgs, but i've only had single babies. And HG possibly more prevalent for mums having girl babies. Well I have a son! Hope you can get some cyclizine or you're able to keep down some ice lollies today

Reebok - hurray for feeling normal! I've been feeling okish today too, ate some proper food and everything. Didn't eat a lot, not much of an appetite and pretty tired but was out and about for a few hours with DH and DS and haven't thrown up so high 5 to us!

waves - hello, sorry you're having to join us but this is the place to come and let it all out, the sickness, the frustration, how depressed it can make you. We'll get through it all together :)

Hi to everyone else, hope you're all having nice weekends and not feeling too awful. Nice to see a bit of sunshine today, spring slowly arriving...at last xx

Littlemiss, I spoke too soon. It appears the week has caught up with me :( the smell of hand wash had me retching so had to chuck it out and ask hubby to replace it with a non smelling one.

Belle, I'm on cyclizine...unfortunately not great with me this time round as I'm still sick and usually feel like a robot after taking it.

Welcome waves! Sorry you have to join the hG group but hoping the sickness will be short lived for you.

Right off to bed! Head is pounding!

Ps good luck for scan flobot x

Thanks! It's weird things that set us off eh? I might have a sneaky look fit cyclezine in my local chemist tomorrow if I have the energy to leave the house :)

Hi everyone.
I'm hiding in bed.
I took my Buccastem this morning and am trying to remain horizontal as long as possible, as I always throw up as soon as I start to move around.

My wonderful DH bakes all our bread fresh (by hand!) and I can smell it baking downstairs.... but it's just making me feel sick!!
And he's boiled eggs for the kids. I can hear him giving them to them.
Just the thought of it is making me feel awful.
I feel so guilty.... :(

On the plus side, the tablets seem to work better as the day goes on. So I seem to puke still every morningn, and feel nauseous all day. But I can eat small bits, and by the evening, I can eat a "normal" meal.

I feel really guilty for taking the medication, and really hope it's not doing anything awful, but I have no choice really. It's that or just throw up all day, and reading all the stories here, I can see that's no good either...

They make me very tired though. Asleep by 8pm last night!!

On the "explaining it" thing:
Becuase this is my thrid pregnancy, and I haven't been sick with the other two (both boys), I'll be intrigued to see if it's a girl.... but I have no opinion either way, otherwise.
I want a healthy baby, boy or girl.

But the scientist in me wants to "explain" why this pregnancy is so different to the last ones....

Argh this HG lark is exhausting isn't it. I'm feeling woeful as haven't kept anything down since I left hospital, including water. Might try ice cubes - anyone had success with that?

14 + 5 and still lighter than when I became pregnant. Was only an 8/10 to start with so I don't really have a lot more that I can safely lose. I'm very very stressed as the moment as my marriage is breaking down, and I think that is contributing to the sickness, so plan is to call the midwives tomorrow for a chat to see if they have any advice.

wavesandsmiles HG is terribly isolating and puts a huge toll on a marriage. is there a friend or neighbour you can ask to pop round a couple of times a week? my neighbour is doing this for me at the moment and it's a lifesaver. she brought me some toast and water the other day. last time, i didn't have anyone as was keeping pregnancy quiet due to mmc before. stress definitely makes HG worse.

REally sorry waves
I know, even with my rather mild case, it does put a strain on things.
I have wanted to slap DH twice this week:
once when I asked him what he wanted for his birthday, and he said "A cheerful Crikee"

And this morning, when I was getting upset because I knew I was going to be sick, and he told me to "....try not to get upset about it and just get on with it...."

hmmmm....
Can you really wait til tomorrow to talk to someone?
Sounds like you should be talking to someone today if you're still not keeping stuff down.
You poor thing...

wish i had found this forum a few weeks ago!! My hyperemesis was awful and none of the 'remedies' that helpful friends and family members felt the need to impart were any use. Thankfully i have a brilliant GP who has rotated me on a series of different anti-sickness pills until one clicked - am 13 weeks today and hoping that the worst is over...still queasy but at least i can go more than 20 mins without praying to the ceramic deity in the bathroom!

at 10 weeks i was ready to through the towel in as i was so ill, i couldn't take a breath without being sick, wasn't sleeping, stomach muscles so sore i thought i was dying...

am finally feeling exctied about being pregnant which i was worried i never would feel during the worst of it!

Just dashing on to say, "Waves Your poor poor thing, those miserable ketones must be up again? I did find ice cubes helpful, and ice lollies, too, and oddly, sips of warm water. I an imagine you are desperate to keep out of hospital only having been discharged, really sorry but if this goes on it looks like you'll have to let doctors know. Gentle cyber pats on offer, as I'm sure you aren't up to pats. It does put a dreadful strain on relationships, OH's don't really understand the agony you are suffering, try as they might. Has he had a look at MOH*'s website Pregnancy Sickness SOS or the HelpHer one as they do have advice for partners (much needed)? Everyone tends to fall out badly with OH's at some point during this miserable time,unless the OH in question is a paragon (mine wasn't).
Flo Youl could - while denying being pregnant, as they won't give you cyclazine over the counter if you are, though it's been proven safe for about three or four decades - say you've got a lingering stomach bug?
Hope everyone is coping.
Lucinda
xx