Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

waves that sounds awful, sounds like you're going through a lot. I can't imagine how much worse this would all be if my husband weren't so lovely.

I've not left the sofa since dragging myself out of bed about ten am. I've not been sick (hurrah) but have felt my absolute worst all day :(

Can't wait to see the Dr tomorrow

Keeping fingers crossed for you, fl0b0t , that they come up with something that helps....

fl0b0t if they haven't tried you on it already they had me on metochlopramide for a bit which helped a little and am now on prochlorperazine which has been like a wonder drug at steming the sickness and sick feeling hth and good luck with your GP

Waves, I know how you feel. HG has caused a strain on my marriage too. All my OH and me do is argue because he doesn't understand how bad it can make you feel. I really do hope things get better for you. Hugs x

Hey all, welcome to all the newest joiners to our thread :)

Does anyone feel considerably worse late evening? I tend to feel absolutely effing dreadful by 9/10, and my mood just plummets. Even if I've had quite a good day (rare, but they do happen sometimes), it's always by 9/10 that I feel awful. And I can never sleep til about 4/5 am :(

I've become absolutely addicted to One Born Every Minute on 4, so been watching all the last few series on Catch Up in bed whilst OH is asleep to cheer me up, til the vv early hours. It's the only thing that reminds me that I am pregnant and that however ill I feel, I'll get something beautiful at the end of it. Right now, I don't feel pregnant, I just feel so miserable and ill.

13+2 weeks atm. 186 days to go...

Sorry not to respond to others atm, will do that tomorrow when I'm hopefully a bit more alert....

Hugs to all xx

Have any of you tried stemetil and found it worked? I'm on promethazine at the moment and it helps but i have thrown up on it once. Doctor has suggested stemetil - but the side effects scare me.

I haven't been on stemetil. Only dodgy side effects I've had so far was from IV cyclazine which made me feel awful. I'm on buccastem now which isn't touching the nausea or vomiting so trying to sort out another gp appt and then someone to get me there as I don't think I'm safe to drive. Laying flat on my back, not moving and breathing only through my nose is about all that is keeping me from retching.

Someone suggested sniffing grapefruit oil on a tissue. Anyone tried that or even heard of it?

waves I am also rocking the "lying still, eyes closed in silence" til My Dr appt later......

Oh god, today sucks. Stayed in bed until 1. Then got up and by the time I was halfway inside my jumper I was retching and got all stuck and flustered and running around the house with a jumper on my head retching loudly. Class act.

Lotta - I'm taking stemetil or whatever you call it. It seems pretty good, doesn't completely stop me from being sick but makes it a good bit more manageable

In saying that I've been up since 5 this morning and I'm currently slowly dying in the office, would love to be at home in my bed!!

Oh, Flo. Bless you.

I'm another fan of lying down, totally still, all the bloody time. Thought I felt better enough to go and make some porridge (today's craving) but I only got halfway and to the bathroom, where I was sick for ten mins and lost the breakfast I thought I was keeping down. Boo.

I'm so bored I've started entering competitions. I figure if I enter enough things, I may even win something!

waves I have heard of similar things - lemon oil and the suchlike. I think it comes from the heightened sense of smell and scent triggers making you sick; clean smells like lemon or grapefruit are possibly a bit less offensive and so might block the offensive smells? DH is the stingiest thing to me at the moment, bless him. I can't face towards him in bed at all, can barely hug him. He stinks! This happened last time too. He's used to it :)

Hope all coping ok today. One more day done.

What a great idea, Belle ! I, too, am beginning to go out of my head with boredem.
I'm also cowering in bed, and have been since late morning.
I really need to get up and take next tablet. I'm also a bit hungry for plain pasta... so feel I ought to just grab the bull by the horns and go for it, if I actually want something.

But, in my head, getting up means risking puking... so I find it easier to lie here...

crikee that is exctly how I felt, and I was proved right! Staying in bed seems so easy.

belle I cant admit to my dh that to me he stinks! All the time!

Dr appt went well. She was impressed by my knowledge and that is checked my keetose, and I'be just picked up the promethazine hydrochloride

Littlemiss that's good to hear. if mine doesn't work again i'll move on to it.

flobot that's what i'm on and i'd say today it's actually kicked in after i've rested a lot for several days. let me know how you get on with it.

What is it with HG and needing not to move at all? I feel so lazy but it really does stop me from throwing up. And although I say I feel lazy I also just cannot envisage getting anything done at the moment as trying to do anything just worsens the nausea.

Sorry everyone, floored by one of those stupid migaines, I'll catch u tommorow, I'm glad to see Waves is still out of hospital as yet, it's so dmeoralising when you come out only to be in again within days, as happened about three times to Kalidasa on the last thread.
I saw mentions of porridge and pasta - I had terrible experiences of both on the way up again - I hit the wardrobe with the returning pasta bake, and even after I'd cleaned it OH wanted to know what those red marks were high up - but yuk, maybe it depends how long you cook the stuff?
I so agree about stinking OH's. I held a lavender satchet thing to my nose, back turned, and a vouminous nightie on in case he didn't get the general idea...
Hope everyone has low ketones, says mother hen.
Lucinda
xx

I'm still lying down, and planning to make a gp appt tomorrow. Mum popped round before and reminded me that i was sick right through both my previous pregnancies, worse with DD. Amazing what a 7 year gap (and possible amnesia) can do for forgetting the traumas of the past.

I've had a couple of friends round today, one took my dog for a walk and the other did the dishes and made me some toast. I'm convinced that however sick I am, at least if I manage to eat a little my body will find a way to hold on to something!

No plans to move from this position. The DCs will have to come and say goodnight to me in bed tonight instead of the other way round...

Came home from work & puked my face off for hours last night, charming i know! Still feeling wretched this morning so going to have to stay off from work today. Fed up! 1 step forward and 10 steps back :( 13+4 ... Is this ever going to end?!

Just popping in to say hello as I can see that Lucinda has name-checked me! Yes, I repeatedly spent days on a drip in hospital, finally discharged when they'd eventually beaten the ketones down again, only to be readmitted 48-72 hours later. So depressing! But honestly I think they kick you out too fast - it's not enough to have no ketones if you're still on a drip and still not eating. My experience would suggest that they shouldn't discharge you until you've spent at least a day or so in hospital off the drip and eating at least some food without throwing it up; and then they must discharge you with prescriptions for the same level of medication that you were taking in hospital. Otherwise you start throwing up again - if you ever actually stopped - as soon as you get home.

My baby Joseph is nearly 10 weeks old now. Unbelievably I ended up in hospital yet again about four weeks ago - just flu I think but they suspected meningitis and, guess what, I had 3+ ketones so had to be on a drip for a night. Horrible sense of deja vu! though at least I wasn't throwing up. They said it was from breastfeeding all night with a high temperature, I had got very dehydrated although I had been making an effort to drink. Personally I think the seven hours in A&E was mostly to blame!

I have to say that I am still struggling to accept and come to terms with my experience of pregnancy. I feel I have lost confidence with eating a bit, and I am also longing to return to work after being off sick for essentially my entire pregnancy so I am going to go back to work quite a bit earlier than I otherwise would have done.

Good news for you all though is that I was on huge amounts of drugs - max doses of cyclizine, ranitidine, metoclopramide and ondansetron all at the same time for months and starting very early, at five weeks - and the baby is absolutely fine. The only thing I have noticed is that he was born on the 25th centile and has gone charging up the charts, now close to the 75th. Both my mother and the GP think he might have been "meant" to be a bit bigger than he was at birth and is making up for it now. But he is incredibly healthy and very alert.

kalidasa good to hear that you're coming out the other side, sounds like it was a very traumatic time!

I have to say, the knowledge that it lifts (in my case, at the birth!) is what's keeping me going this time around. I looked at some old photos this morning of the weeks immediately after ds was born. I remember feeling so brilliant! Literally immediately, too, which I thought was weird. Ds was born at 00:26 and I scoffed a huge breakfast down at 8am that morning. I still remember the breakfast trolley coming round, and the heavenly smell - if I could have got out of bed I think I'd have chased her up the corridor. The mum in the bed opposite thought I was hilarious :)

I have been in bed all day today. DH is away and everyone else is out: ds at nursery, dfil is working my job (long story) and dmil is out for the day. I really fancy some scrambled eggs but the only way I'm going to get them is get up and make them, and by the time I've done that I probably won't want them. Come on, Belle, get up. The baby needs to eat!

Kalidasa Lovely to hear from you and thanks for message of support! It?s great Joseph is flourishing ? does he say Ga-Ga in French as well as English ? but sorry to hear that you were back in hospital, and on a drip again, those ketones so love you, let?s hope that is their swan song. I do often mention yours as a very bad case, but I tend to refer to you by the contraction Kali (as in the dread Goddess!).
BabyHMummy A belated welcome, sorry for appearing to ignore you before, I was struck down with the migraines that have been worse ever since Hyperemesis but I don?t want people to think that?s inevitable, I think that was my peculiar misfortune. Thanks for message of support, sorry you didn?t find us before and are still queasy, though, I hope that goes off soon. Prochlorperzine (sp) it?s interesting, I hadn?t heard of that one, MOH will probably know all about it, but it does seem to be helping people on here.
Flo Sorry about jumper fiasco ? how foul ? glad you can laugh about it. I hope the Pro what?s it helps. Re the lying down, it is so boring and depressing, but the lack of movement seems to be the only thing at a certain stage.
Belle I'm glad it went so quickly with you. Good luck with those competitions! I am horrified at that series of medical complications you got, how brave of you to go for it again.
Lotta I think all the meds have a whole list of possible side effects listed as a legal reqirement which sound terrifying but aren?t very usual, or did the GP specifically mention some? Interestingly, GP?s favourite cyclezine does make people feel very spaced out for a while.
Holden Lol about television choice?
LittleMiss You were back at work, you trooper? How awful, being sick for hours. At least one good day (though yesterday hardly counts) is usually a sign that others are on the way?I?ve often thought that this illness is like a nasty board game with counters, as you say, one step forward, two steps back. But as in my old Snakes and Ladders game, there is the Pink Castle at the end!
Waves Ah, about goodnight kiss. Was it you still only on metroclopramide? Is the GP going to prescribe anything else?
Crikee How are things?
Sorry to anyone I?ve rudely ignored.
Lucinda
xx

Belle That 'glad it went so quickly with you' refers to post birth last time, of course!
Lucinda
xx

I've been laying down all day too belle (apart from dashes to the toilet/leaning over the side of the bed to the sick bowl), although off to the GP at 4.20. The receptionist was lovely when I called - I think me being stretchered out of there last week was quite a drama for them At least it means they should take everything seriously today.

When I started to remember this happening with DD, I also remembered to my horror that I was still being sick the day AFTER she was born. I wept and wept at the time as I had thought that was that, you know, baby arrives, vomiting stops. At least it was only a day or so til it stopped completely, and probably related to the horrible induction.

It is good to remember that there will be an end to this, and it will be SO worth it

Lucinda - Thanks, you're right, it is definitely one very slow step at a time out of this but at least having the occasional good day or good few hours is better than a couple of weeks ago when it was all bad all the time!

belle / waves - Also been in bed all day, DH dropped DS to childminder, I nipped over to pick him up at 2:15 and now he's napping and i'm back in bed. Feeling weirdly hungry but no food i can imagine eating seems to fit the bill so just watching stupid tv for a while, hoping by this evening the worst of this latest bout will be past!

You're right Lucinda - Kalidasa means literally "the servant of [the goddess] Kali". But it's also the name of a famous Sanskrit poet. Obviously I'm not a Sanskrit poet! But that's why I chose the name.

Thinking of everyone suffering. I was still throwing up in labour (all over the floor at one point - had no warning!) but not afterwards, and like belle when the breakfast trolley came round the next morning and the lady asked me what I wanted and listed the options, I said could I have all of them?