Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Gatorade Oh no about hospitalisation, that's a long time hooked up to drip, I remember myr previous post about your name and my usual 'have you got kesosticks' but not what meds you were on? Which ones do they have you on now? I do hope they are effective, poor you. I didn't have an LO to smell a bad to me, but I know my OH frankly stank to me when I was ill and still smelt too strong for the rest of the pregnancy. It must be really distressing with an LO, who needs hugs.
FB Did you say you had kesosticks left over from cat's illness? . It's so difficult about having to tell people, some have to because employers mustn't descriminate against a woman with a pregnancy related illness, according to legislation, but it's obvious from posts on here that they do in practice.
Holdon I think most people start to feel a lot better between fifteen and twenty weeks, and even those who suffer throughout are almost never as bad later on. I think it doesn't go in the sense of complete recovery, though- residual chronic heartburn is common, though with a lot it's helped by meds, and fatigue and things smelling weird, etc. But infinitely better!
Littlemiss Finished PHD? Painted nursery? The energy...
Reebok So glad about reduced hours.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
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Hi LucindaE, I was on Cyclizine pre hospital admittance (unfortunately it doesn't seem to help my sickness and actually makes me feel worse), in hospital they tried IV cyclizine (no help), injected Metoclopramide (no help) and then IV Ordansetron (which finally worked).

Once I stopped being sick (Ordansetron didn't get rid of the nausea completely but seemed to stop the bile vomit cycle I had been in) they reintroduced the Metoclopramide and phased out the Ordansetron and fingers crossed it seems to be working!

I'm also taking the usual Ranitidine and Thiamine. The hospital kindly gave me a couple of viles of ordanstetron which I can take to my GP to have injected if I get stuck in a vomit cycle again - I really want to avoid another hospital admittance although they were not happy that I had waited for +4 ketones to get admitted this time (I have promised to come back if it gets to +2 again and go to the GP to be injected if it gets to +1)

Gatorade I'm glad that they're taking the ketones seriously and have a contingency plan worked out! Fingers crossed; you must have felt terrible on 4+ ketones.
Lucinda
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Gatorade - cyclizine worked ok for me with DS but has been totally useless this time round. I've got procloperazine now and it seems a bit better, tho trying to avoid ranitidine at the min cos I will be living on it in third tri lol Hope your new drug combo works out well for you this time. I know how nervous you must feel about telling work, particularly after mc, but if you are really suffering then I think you will feel better if you let them know what's going on. Hopefully they will follow the legislation (and show some basic human decency) and give you a bit of a break until you're feeling a bit more human again yourself.

Lucinda - Hmm, yes, probably had a lot more energy then than I have since DS was born and I've been a busy working mum!

Thank you Holden. I'm just about making it through the day. Almost puked up on the street on the way home. Managed to hold it until I got home though.

Does anyone know when you start to feel the baby? I thought I felt an odd flutter about ten mins ago but wasn't sure if it was just gas! Lol I'm 16 weeks on Monday so I'm guessing it's probably too soon and just wishful thinking.

Sorry I can't reply to each post individually at the moment. Am exhausted and will try to catch up on posts on weekend. Night hG family!

Ps welcome flobot...hopefully no hG for you this time!

Lucinda- Yes indeed- he's diabetic! We've not actually had to use them yet, but bought them incase of hypoglycemia

Reebok-cheers... and don't say "this time" --NEVER AGAIN! :)

I've not been feeling any better this week- would you recommend I make another dr appointment and see what drugs they can prescribe? I don't want to take drugs, but I feel so awful :(

flobot - i started cyclazine around 7 weels when nausea became constant so no harm in making an appt with gp for fri or mon and seeing what they can give you - its even handy just having the tablets in the house in case it suddenly kicks in. Good luck

Well, ladies, I've been spectacular today. I threw up in the sink during my booking in appt. Then I threw up on DH's feet on the way home (literally across the road). He is cross, but somewhat placated as he will now need new shoes. And I've just thrown up an entire fish & chip supper and may never eat battered cod again as a result! I'm signed off for next week too. Here we go again... :) Am surprisingly cheerful, considering. But I do seem to feel best at about 10pm for about an hour. Maybe I should suggest night classes...?!

My midwife was luffly and had a luxuriant moustache. AND she never once offered me a biscuit :) Hurrah, MW, you passed the test! She was delighted with me and all my health issues - she got to use forms and referrals she's never had to use in a 20 year career. That's cos I'm speshul, innit :)

Gator bless you. Glad you are home. IV cyc is a bitch if I remember correctly. Burns on the way in. When I was first in hosp with hg last time they gave me Stemetil by suppository and I was begging for some to take home but they wouldn't let me :( I was all bastards :) DH thought it was funny. I asked him how rotten did he think he would have to be feeling to be begging for a pill the size of a bullet to shove up his bum twice a day. He shut up after that

Flo get yourself on meds ASAP. The earlier you take them, the better they work. Honestly, they do make a difference. You don't have to soldier on because you're pregnant. If you were ill and not knocked up, you wouldn't think twice about meds. The only one they get iffy about is ondansetron, really, and the others are all about as safe as any med can be. There's something about saying a doctor has given you an actual prescription that makes the Effing Ginger Brigate fuck off a little bit, too. I always say oh, I've got a pregnancy condition called hyperemesis, which causes excessive vomiting. I'm on medication. People keep their biscuits to themselves generally then :)

Hope all coping ok today. My sense of humour seems to have kicked in, although it is gallows based :) Unmumsnetty (and slightly sicky) hugs all round.

belle - oh you poor thing! i made it thru all my pg appts without throwing up on anyone but i fell down the stairs at 38 weeks and needed a scan and i threw up on that mw and after that it was all down hill really! during labour i puked copiously on myself and anyone that came near me for about 20 hours lol loving your gallows humour and your attitude towards ginger biccies brigade - god love my mum but in all 3 pregnancies she has suggested those bloody biscuits!!!

Ginger biscuits. Dry crackers. Have you tried sipping water? Ginger tea?

Oh eff off. Do you really think I wouldn't have tried all that, and just leapt to time off and medication? There are still people in my family who I just know think I'm being a princess. I caught my stepmum muttering 'well ginger biscuits worked for my friend.' Said friend sailed through pregnancy, and stepmum has never been pg. So they can both go jump in a pile of ginger I have Hyperemesis Gravidarum. It's like saying a glass of water can help a headache, but it isn't any good on a serious migraine.

My other pet peeve is the duchess of Cambridge, who has not helped matters by being pictured playing hockey days before hospitalisation and emerged from hospital (no doubt up to the eyeballs on ondansetron) looking glamorous, if delicate. I'm glad she is recovering. But I'm not her! I had it all the way to the end of my pregnancy last time and I looked haggard and half dead the entire time.

Ooh I am grumpy this morning! I feel shocking. I've started getting mouth ulcers and they are so painful. This happened last time too. DH has just quit smoking so his patience is a little thin. We are living with in laws at the moment too so I can't even do this in privacy - I'm just vomiting all over someone else's house. There's something about this that makes me feel very vulnerable and its not ideal feeling this way not in my own home :(

How is everyone this morning?

Thanks belle that's helped me feel better! What's even WORSE is that I hate ginger with a firey fiery passion. When people mention ginger, I want to vomit on them.... (maybe they could get new shoes...?)

Flo I so agree with others, do demand meds, taking someone to help argue your case if it's difficult to talk (as it is, when you think you are going to be sick any minute).
Belle Lol about shoes, I did that on my own shoes once, those Public Puking experiences are awful, hugs. That wicked sense of humour is wonderful and you are brave to show it, but I'm really sorry about the Fish and Chips Reappearing, it so puts you off any food that comes up at once. As you love an awful joke like me, I feel free to say that Hyperemesis reminded me of a horrible conjuring show where with food, First You Don't See It, Now You Do...
Gatorade Reebok Littlemiss I hope OK. Littlemiss Was it your stepmother who made that outrageous remark about ginger biscuits? I honestly think if somebody says that, they deserve to be puked on, sorry!
I hope everyone is coping today.
Lucinda
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Belle - Ooh living with in-laws! Tough going Mine are very lovely and they live close by but for vomiting and moping around i am very glad to have my own bed/sofa/bathroom. No wonder you're feeling a bit grumpy! I actually think Kate has done me a favour - for some ridiculous reason Kate Middleton is my nickname in work because it's a community project and everyone thinks i'm very posh (really i'm not at all and i guarantee if you met me and heard my Belfast accent you would certainly agree!). So now me and Kate are both pregnant. Both due in the summer. Both sick with HG. It's kind of helped people in work understand what's going on tbh. Except of course we don't have private hospitals and palaces to recover in, nor a team of dedicated stylists to make sure we look lovely on our occasional trips out.

flobot - I used to think ginger was ok, not my favourite thing, but fine. Three pregnancies later and I too hate it with a passion. Hate the smell of it, taste of it, people mentioning it. GRRR!!!

Lucinda - It was Belle's stepmum who said ginger biscuits helped her friend and my flipping mum who keeps pressing them on me, and oatcakes, just to nibble on during the night, you know, to 'stop me feeling sick'. lol. Bless her, she genuinely does mean well but you would think she would know by now that as soon as my hormone levels rise i just become a puking machine and ginger bloody biscuits will never help!!!

at Lucinda. Its exactly like that!

Oh it's bad today. I'm barely keeping down water - although I've sipped half a glass of apple hi-juice squash in the last hour and it's still in. I've been craving apple juice but I avoid the real thing as its too acidic -excellent consultant last time said no citrus, no acid, no ginger (I luffed him) and no iron-rich food like red meat so I am avoiding like the plague. Replacing juice with weak hi-juice seems to quell the craving. This morning's single little (usually safe) brioche came back and it's worse on an empty tummy. I've got to get something to stay down and it might improve. DH is making me a hot weetabix - usually very safe and not awful on the way up if not. Wish me luck!

Hi,

Can I join the thread? On Promethazine an 6w5 but threw up this morning and felt v sick day before. Is it realistic to think there's a tablet out there that might stop me feeling and being sick?

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thanks guys. I've not kept anything down so far today- this mornings yoghurt made quick reappearance, as did soupy lunch. I've hated toast all week, but now my husband is home and making toast it becomes imminently more eatable. I've made an appt for monday, so fingers crossed I see a nice kind dr who understands!

You see...both my acupuncture hippy lady and belle's consultant said NO GINGER so to anyone who dares suggest a flippin ginger nut biscuit to any of us for the rest of our pgs!

Sorry belle and flobot that you are having bad days. I've been up since 5 and I was puking my face off at 6am and didn't start to feel humanish til 10 but ive kept stuff down since then. My best hours are usually 10 til 3 tho and then the evening is a big slump again. Would love a nice bit of scampi or a chicken burger from the chippy tonight but i know if about an hour i'll prob be face down on bed, groaning and counting minutes til DH gets home from work and can relieve me from DS duties!

And welcome lotta - there's a few diff drugs out there www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/treatments/#2 tho i don't think any of them will really stop you feeling / being sick entirely. But they can help if your sickness turns into full blown HG

Can I just sign in? :(
I was on a thread with fl0b0t so I'm not surprised to see her here! (sorry it's not got any better for you)

I'm about 9weeks pregnant, and since yesterday, have been on anti-sickness meds (begins with B! Can't remember the name... sorry!)

I've had ms for a few weeks now, but this week it got really bad (all day puking etc etc)

Turned up at doctor yesteday, who confirmed I was dehydrated (measured BP sitting down/ standing up etc), signed me off work til end of next week.

Yesterday, I felt awful all day, but actually felt brilliant by the evening.
However, I woke up today and threw up again.
Have been struggling to nibble/sip all day since.... but feeling really down.

Feel a bit of a fraud, as it sounds like you all have much worse cases than me, but I'm feeling a bit down today, as I thought the meds had "cracked it"... but obviously not.

Anyway... hello everyone! And will look through and look at the links later... thanks!

Welcome crikee, sorry you've had to join me. Picked my husband up from the airport and that was IT for the day. Spent the day in bed, nibbling toast and vomiting. Trying to keep hydrated but my wee is really cloudy and quite dark (for me). My temp has been 99.8 (37.7) for three days and I feel very close to giving up on everything. I'm dreading the weekend;more long days of feeling bad through the cycle of "feel sick.must eat something.be sick.must eat something" rinse and repeat (ad nauseum?!). Grrrrrrr .

Rant over. Apologies.

Lotta and Crikee Welcome both (or four?), and I heard you might be coming over. Sorry you feel so foul and Crikee Don't feel a fraud, and if those meds aren't workking - would it be forgotten how to spell it, Buccastem? - don't hestitate to go back and say so to the GP, do as I say not as I did and don't suffer in silence! It might be a good idea to take someone for moral support if you can and you're feeling too awful to argue your corner. Lotta Many women on here swear by Ondansetron or a combination of that and Cyclezine or Metrclopramide,but sadly as others say, unfortunately at the early stages the nausea is most likely to persist. it can be as debiliating as much as the actual vomiting in not getting enough fluids down.
Belle and Littlemiss Sorry for mix up over mothers/stepmothers and ginger biscuit recommendations, I only heard of ONE person who was helped by ginger on these threads (not biscuits) weird supplements. Belle I suppose at least the puking in the sink meant they had evidence of how bad it is, if they don't see you they don't seem to believe you! Will they change the meds?
Everyone, avoid museli and rice at all costs Belle I hope the Weetabix stayed put?

Reebok Poor you, you tidy thing - bins were my particular speciality (they didn't hae lids on in Ealing back then). Fatigue does make it worse, so that might account for it. I think you should demand anything from the GP that might help to get you through the hellishness of having to work with this.
Holdon and Gatorade I scrawled notes for you and can't read my appalling handwriting. Sorry about that.
Lucinda
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Flo Cross posted and I wanted to say, so agree that you need meds, poor you. This isn't normal and shouldn't be left untreated.
Hugs to all, apologies to Anyone rudely overlooked
Lucinda
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Crikee - I hope things don't get any worse for you and the drugs really help. I do think most HG ladies have diff times of day when they feel ok, mine is usually late morning/early afternoon and apparently you get to have ok evenings. Take whatever you can get and make sure to eat and drink plenty when you're feeling ok

flobot - ooft that sounds terrible :( Didn't have an overly active day myself, a friend called round in the morning, i picked DS up from childminder at lunchtime and nipped into chemist to fill my prescription (trickier than it sounds with toddler plus toy truck in tow!) and then lounged at home rest of afternoon while DS took nap and then we watched peppa pig and played cbeebies games. Bad mummy but mummy couldn't drag herself off the sofa!!

Lucinda - Quite agree on the muesli front ;)

We might have another lady to join us from August thread, she's been hospitalised the last few days and feeling pretty down because she has other DCs at home so everyone keep an eye out for waves

Muesli! Rice! so true. Also; popcorn

Perhaps it's food in bits that's worst ?

I did it guys! 5 full days at work! Exhausted but managed to make it through the nausea. Vomiting seems to be morning and late evening but so far, so good today! Got such bad hip pain today. Doesn't help having to bend down for the little kids at school constantly.

Welcome to the newbies! I hope this thread will be as helpful to you all as it has been to me these past 3 months. You will get through it. Demand drugs and don't feel guilty for taking them! You will be worse off not taking them.

Hope everyone feels better x