Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Sorry I didn't update, just felt like crap and duvet-dayed.

Just went to midwife, 4+ ketones as usual but it's fine as I can keep fluids down. Doesn't feel fine!

Reebok-if it makes you feel better I was admitted to a POSTnatal ward. Great sleep that was and everyone looking at me with big eyes as there was no baby in a cot near me and I have no bump.

I am so so so ratty with everyone. Work keep piling on pressure and I want to literally kill.

reebok and ghouleloks hang in there.

reebok what meds are you on? I am on phenergan (its one of the anti-histamine types) and did find in both pregnancies that it takes a a good week or more to really get the vomming under control. Never touched the nausea though - only ondansetron did that. Hopefully your banana stays down and you are going alright with fluids.

ghouleloks sounds like I was a bit the same as you - luckily I was mostly able to keep fluids down esp. once meds were established but usually only water and I couldn't eat anything. I was in full blown ketosis when I arrived at my Mum's house - she said she could smell it on my breath! Only through some TLC did I start to get on top of it. And Ensure - those meal replacement drinks - pretty gross but kept down most of time and not so traumatic on the way back up ifyswim.

nomorevom did you find a medication that helped in your last pregnancy? You may find you can get it over the counter if you did have problems with your GP writing a pre-emptive prescription. I think there is some evidence for the b vitamins too - and you can get those in Boots.

ESM23 how refreshing to meet someone has not had HG but understands!! Thanks for posting you have restored my faith. Even one of my good Mummy friends said to me 'I was offered drugs but chose not to take them'. I wanted to scream .....'If you have HG you don't have a choice about the drugs!!! You would be dangerously dehydrated otherwise!!!!!!'

Tay I'm on cyclizine. I was on it last preg where I had a mmc and continued to feel symptoms of hG until my erpc. It worked a little better last time. This time is pretty useless and making me feel like a zombie. Struggling to drink tbh. Praying for a better day where I can actually get out of bed.

Ghoulelocks that sounds awful. Sorry you had to go through it. Here's hoping we will both have better days soon.

Just dashing on to say sorry to EMS that I rudely ignored her message of support, didn't see it! It was great you stuck up for your suffering colleague.
Tay NoMore and Reebok I should have thought of that, of course! You can get cyclezine over the counter, and I think Stemetil too, the ludicrous thing is you have to pretend not to be pregnant though they have been proven safe in pregnancy for decades.
Reebok There are so many meds they can try, don't despair; but it's so awful having to go anywhere even the GP's surgery, when one is in danger of being sick, even if one takes carrier bags (doubled up) or those nappy bag things.
EMSs story reminded me of doing a temporary job where a fellow worker had bad MS (for all I know, after I left it could have turned into Hyperemesis proper) and worked as a receptionist and not being able to leave in time, was sick in a waste paper bin. I ran out to empty it (she was in no state to) and guess who I met? A visiting VIP...
Lucinda
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...And now I've ignored Ghoule. GhoulePoor you, welcome back, don't let work make you feel guilty, you can't work with this thing. Did you say you are a teacher? If so I can understand you being worried but you have to put yourself and baby first. It's awful your Hyperemesis symptoms didn't go with the MMC, that' s the worst of both worlds. I had an MMC and the sickness, which had started to kick in strongly, eased off.
Nannlyl Still puffing indignantly about that Dr...
Lucinda
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I'm at the point of asking to be signed off. Do you think it's likely? I spent a lot of this afternoon crying in the sink whilst sitting on the loo in the disabled toilet. Plus I'm ratty with the children quite unreasonably whilst interrupting learning all day to be sick. Just had enough. Really.

Ghoule, I'm a teacher too. Im signed off for this week. Work are pretty understanding because they saw me go through it last time for my mmc. Going to ask doc to sign me off for rest of term because there's no way I can look after 4/5 year olds and no reason why you should have to either! School can just deal with it but my baby and health cones first. My head of dept agrees with me as her sister had hyperemesis and she understands how serious it is. You wouldn't ask someone going through cancer to suffer in silence at work would you? Then you shouldn't expect a hG sufferer to continue working through this horrendous illness.

I was signed off at 7 weeks last pregnancy and was never well enough to go back

i couldnt get out of bed, most days i didnt even make it down stairs.... NO WAY could i have gone to work (teaching in kindergarten at a private school, 3 - 4 year olds)

Nannyl did you still receive pay? That's only thing worrying me because no way we would survive financially.

Feeling so alone. This thread is the only thing that helps me through the day. Hubby, sisters, friends...no one seems to understand how sick I feel. They think I'm exaggerating despite having been admitted to a hospital. If my hub says 'it's normal' one more time, I'm going to scream. Sorry to rant so much but it seems like only you guys understand.

Tay with dd2 Gp gave me metaclopramide which didn't work and when I needed to go to hospital for a drip at ten weeks (keytones 4+) they gave me cyclizine and stemetil. They helped but nothing took away that horrible feeling of constant nausea which really got me down

I didn't realise you could get them over the counter so if I have no luck with the Gp I will send dh to boots. Do they come in different strengths or just a standard dose?

With dd1 I would wake up at night to be sick and then go back to sleep!

Sorry to ask... but how did you get a doctors note? I've never asked for one, except once recently just to cover the time in hospital. Do you ask directly? Do they listen and offer? Does it have to be retrospective? I've just experienced that hospital discharge and that's it, no follow up, noone asks to see you again.

Reebok- I've just been crying like a nutter. I think I want time off 50% for the being sick/ run down and 50% for mental health. I'm like an erractic loon.

Just asked. I kinda broke down in tears and I guess he could see I wasn't coping. Asked about my diet and when I said I was living off of hula hoops he said 'oh dear' and signed me off a week. Still won't give me anything stronger than cyclizine. Have thrown up another 2 times in half hour n just been crying my eyes out. Much more of this, and think il have to go back to hospital.

ask for metaclopramide, cyclizine stopped my nausea but not vominting.

I'm getting to the break down point! I'm always the one that copes and everyone leans on for family and work and can keep a good face on through anything. I think it's part the reason no one offers help, but I feel like i'm cracking.

Metaclophamide didn't work on me last time but worth a shot. Cyclizine doesn't even take away my nausea. Know how you feel. It's terrible to say this because I've miscarried before, but sometimes I have terrible thoughts where I wish it would just end. Thing is I know I'd be gutted if it did as I would never have strength to try again after this. My hyperemesis is worse this time round.

I was very lucky and paid full pay until the end of my contract.

I didnt actually expect to be paid, it was a suprise, but i could NOT have worked, regardless and if it meant no pay then thats what we would have managed with....

we always knew i wouldnt have gone back, it was the plan to be a SAHM, and i was planning on starting ML as early as possible anyway, though hadnt planned to start at 7 weeks!

once my contract finished i had a few weeks unpaid (as excepted, i had no job!!!!) then started maternity allowance at 28wks pg.

Reebok sending you a hug.... I know how truley horrendous you ARE feeling, and not its not normal, and most pg people dont feel even nearly as bad

I didnt realise it was even possible to feel so crap.... but yes it is and ignorant people who have no clue are the last thing you need right now.
Some people would tell me how bad their MS was (they had to run out and be sick in the toilet and everything ) and my response to that now is "how i wish i had had morning sickness, and how blissful MS sounds in comparison to HG.

If anyone talks about MS i tell them how i have HG not MS

Reebok- I have terrible thoughts too. If I was offered the opportunity to have this baby at 34 weeks I'd take it during low points, despite the health risks to the baby. Which is awful.

I skipped through the last pregnancy and was huge and fat by this stage. Barely even had MS. Weirdly instead of people presuming from this I'm not a moaner/ layabout who wouldn't make this up they think it's my default mode to be fine and I should be this time too.

I was told today 'if those ketones don't come down you won't be having a homebirth' (booked in ages ago) I now don't give a shiney shit to be honest and can't be arsed to organise all the crap needed anyway. I just gave her a 'meh' look.

I'm so run down I had something I haven't had for years, and only ever had twice; a migraine. No pain but a strange rainbow circle that grew and grew with fuzzy spot in the middle. Though not painful it was unnerving and uncomfortable.

How far along are you Ghoule? I'm only 7 weeks. 40 weeks seems like so far away. Don't feel like il make it. My body is crashing. I can feel it.

I'm just off 35 weeks. If it cheers you up between about 12 and 29 weeks I actually forgot about sickness. Probably why its return sent me reeling. Hopefully you will have a break too. Fingers crossed.

I hope so Ghoule. I really do because it's killing me. Nannyl thank you. Don't know what I'd do without this forum. Probably be a bigger wreck than I am.

this video cheered me up weirdly

sounds mental but I don't want 'hyperemesis' on a note as I don't want it being judge and discussed by those who think it's MS.

i wouldnt worry ghoule

the form is confidential anyway, so they have absolutely no right to discuss it with anyone except you

my sick notes stated hyperemeis gravidarum as the reason i was signed off

the first one said morning sickness but after that they all said HG... afterall that is what the condition is.

If they know anything about HG then you should expect nothing but sympathy. I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy, and i certainly wouldnt expect anyone suffereing with it to work, i would be amazed if they could even get dressed!

hmm, schools are a nightmare for gossip.

I've just being cheered up by dh composing the imaginary note to the midwife about why I no longer want a home birth (a written response to her letter is suggested)

'I would like to state I no longer wish to faff around organising a home birth and bloody shower curtains whilst looking after a toddler and throwing up all day. In fact my new birth plan to be communicated to all is:

I hereby state I no longer have the energy to care if I am upside down, the right way up, have a c-section or a birth like the one in the alien films. My only intention is to give birth, and promptly.

Furthermore I wish to absolve myself of any responsibility for my actions should people say the following:

Imagine your cervix is a flower opening (you know who you are)
Being sick in pregnancy is normal
Hee hee isn't it funny how this never affects the baby (no it isn't funny)
Aren't you glad there's no baby weight to lose?
Any sentence with 'ketones' in it.

Lol Ghoule. First thing that's made me smile in a week. Thanks for sharing