Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Yeh you're right...the staff room is full of gossiping teachers! I can imagine what they're saying now as I've been off sick a lot lately. Last time they did same and it got back to me through a friend at work. They ended up feeling like twats when I miscarried though!

Glad you smiled. Shame I could have made you smile too with the look on the doctors face who though taking blood pressure mi-vomit would be accurate! (the midwife was sensible and re-took it when I'd finished)

Hi Lucinda and current sufferers

Nitnatnaboo here (in disguise)

Thought I'd come and say "Hi" as all the HG in the news (poor Kate) has brought back memories of Xmas 2010 and the vomiting-blood A&E dash through that snow.

Am keeping away from the TV and print news as I know their inaccurate reporting of HG will make me rant.

Hope you are keeping well Lucinda and MOH Can see you are doing an amazing job here.

Hi sorry to hear lots of people suffering. I'm just popping back on for advice as I feel awful. Got anti sickness stuff but have still been sick once a day and the nausea is constant. So much so I have been drinking enough to keep me ticking over. Only I am thirsty but can't drink without it coming back up and sipping with a toddler isn't easy! I haven't had a wee in 12 hours but don't have a headache or fast pulse and bp is fine. Shall I just ask for a drip- I know it's not pleasant but I feel awful

Has anyone else had this? I know I am very lucky compared to some people

First Oh, poor you, I'm sure you've got kestosticks to check for (ahem, I'll try not to use that word beginning with k) dehydration?Even without excessive puking if you are feeling too sick to drink enough liquids you can get dehydrated, if you feel so terrible it seems likely, even without headache, etc. Sounds a good idea to go for drip. You tend to know. There's lots of meds they can try if the current ones aren't helping enough.
Ghoule Hugs, that crying in the loo sounds awful, to hell with gossip, if a dr signs you off as too ill to work that should be good enough for the management. Sorry it's come back with the vengance.
Melange I well remember you were bringing up brown fluid (a sign of old blood from the stomach, and a medical emergency) and all of us on this thread were pleading with you to go to A and E. I also remember that was because the dir wouldn't prescribe meds, though you'd had Hyperemesis before. Lovely to hear from you with a supportive message, and I hope baby (toddler, now) is fine?
Reebok Nannyl and everyone, hugs, really feel for you, remember this is the worst stage, things will get better, as you know intellectually but it doesn't feel like that.
Back soon.
Lucnda
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First Just seen you had a migraine aura and that is a sign!
Lucinda
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Well doctor was massively patronising. I am 'lucky' that nowadays they can sign people off for a break, she didn't have time off when she was sick, or I'd be walking around work with a bowl...etc.

But she signed me off for 2 weeks. My ketones were 4+ (surprise) and my bp had yo-yoed back down to 95/56 from 130/80.

Can I be nosey and inquire about starting bmi/ weight of others. She said HG was more common in obese mothers so I was unlikely to have it??? (though she agreed I did. I've never heard this.
I started pregnancy at 8st 10lb and 5ft 9, I gained a lot in the middle of pregnancy (like last time) to 11st 4lb but I'm back down to 10st 5lb at 34 weeks. So my bmi now is only 21.4, and it peaked at 23. Is this nonsense? Kate Middleton is hardly huge!

Ghoule It's meant to be more common in obese or overweight women, but it isn't just confined to them - and while not medically qualified myself, I have never heard another doctor argue that you can't have it if you're slim - and lots of women on this thread have been very slim. I think it makes sense it wouldn't be just weight determined, if it's a hormonal thing, as I believe many argue. I was eight stone eleven, and lost eleven pounds in the time I suffered myself (the GP's surgery refused to believe me through the semantics of their weighing machine, etc lol). Kali On here was about the same weight, or lighter, and Melangue (once NitNat) who posted just now was slightly built, too, to name just two others.
I'm glad she gave you a sicknote anyway, you need it. I so felt for you over your description of crying with your head in the wash basin. Hugs. How annoying though, were you meant to teach holding that bowl? It's awful how unsympathetic women dr's can be.
Lucinda
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Reebok Just seen that the puking was bad again, how are you now, poor you? I think you need different meds. I'm sending you gentle cyber pats.
Lucinda
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LucindaE- I felt so uncharitable sitting there feeling ill, but she's a size where she needs to pull back a roll of flesh to see her watch. And she informed me that she managed to gain weight by eating sensibly. I just got the funny feeling she had MS...not HG....

Don't laugh but I'm now getting worried about saying about my sick note!!!

Ghoule, she sounds like a right cow!

Thanks Lucinda. Doc wont give me new meds yet. Wants to see of my body will adjust as it reacted well to cyclizine through iv. Got midwife app on monday so if doc doesnt help me soon, will cry my eyes out to her!

Feeling pretty nauseous today but have noticed I can stomach banana again! Yay! Still drinking in sips and defi not enough but trying to build up each day. Has anyone tried esure drink? It's meant to be good for building up on nutrients apparently. A friend recommended a high protein diet. I laughed as I can't stomach pretty much everything and the thought of meat and chicken makes my stomach want to hurl! She said her friend suffered from hG and it worked for her. Been reading up on it and lots of Obs recommend it and other women who have suffered from hG. Going to ask hubby to get me some ready made chicken soup or broth and see if I can handle it. Can't take another night of basically sleeping with my head in a bucket!

Reebok- I have found that broth is something I can stomach when I am feeling ok. It's not so rich as other soup and more watery.

I spoke to the dr- I don't have ketone sticks as they don't sell them in my local shop. Dr said seeing as I did a wee ( sorry tmi), albeit 11 hours after the last one. I am not that dehydrated. I've more or less slept since 10 am to now as well - feel exhausted. Dr also said even if I had a drip I'd be back to square one in a week so there is no point!

I'd cry if I could- just feel so rotten now. I want to go and get some toast but don't even have the energy to try.

Ghoule- I am 9 st6. Not sure what now tho!! I know someone who has had hg and she was very slim.

First that's ridiculous!! I had managed one pee and they still admitted me to hosp as keytones were 3+ and I had vomited blood. They should have admitted you or you will become more dehydrated. Go to a n e rather than gp. They will have to put you on IV even if it's just as an outpatient. Granted yes I still feel crap and am vomiting pretty much everything up since my a n e admission (and I only came home on Monday) but I'm sure I would have been worse by now if I hadn't gone.

I am tempted and feeling very sorry for myself. Just cried and had years so not that bad!
I've asked mum who is in the city centre for ketone sticks. They tested on Monday and I had no keytones.
DH thinks everyone is panicking now because of Kate in the news so they are taking a tough line!

Tears not years!!

Sorry for recent missing in action, it's been a bit mad what with going back to work and now HRH-HG.

First of all Kali congratulations, I'm beyond happy for you, you have had such a crap time and on this board that is really saying something.

Sorry haven't had time to catch up with everyone else, just wanted to say I've been on Sky News live with Roger Gadsby of Pregnancy Sickness Support and been in the Birmingham Mail. Can I just say that they managed to put a much better picture of my daughter in the print version if anyone is in Birmingham and can buy the paper. Not that I'm vain, but you know. www.birminghammail.co.uk/lifestyle/health/birmingham-mum-describes-pregnancy-morning-355409
I know this blows my alias but hey ho. Needless to say the phone is ringing off the hook at PSS and there are HG survivors all over the press giving their side of the story and debunking the it'll all be over by Christmas bollocks. Lets hope this leads us to a better place and doesn't end up backfiring, I feel bad saying it, but I hope she doesn't bounce back really quickly and get back to Royal public duties in the next few weeks. I've got a really bad case of schadenfreude, I might have to go to confession. Waves to all.

Hello, I'm off of the June thread. I had hg during my last pregnancy, but just of the level of bad morning sickness this time. Really just came to see if Nannyl is on here and ok? Only managed to skim a couple of posts.

Hello

Yes I'm back here again and thank Lucinda and everyone else for the support in both pregnancin

I'm having a good day today and have left the house for the first time in a month for a short walk around the park that is almost next door. Haven't left the house excerpt for drs / hospital etc in over a mono

Sorry to hound you ladies. Tracked down some ketone sticks and it has changed to the darker colour. There are 4 ++++. Does that mean its 4+ keytones?

First Yes, 4+ and that's a serious level. Oh dear, do go to A and E, you need rehydrating. Poor you, y ou must be feeling terrible.
Back in a minute.

Lucinda
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I just called the dr and she said its difficult to admit me now because its half five! I have to go back in the morning at ten. I feel very rough but clearly that isn't enough for the dr

First I misread your post, 4++++ that's even stronger and definitely needs seeing to asap.
Nannyl Congratulations on walk and I'm so glad this thread can help a little.
Reebok Kali on here had Ensure, and found it helpful, even if she brought a fair bit of it up. The smell of my OH boiling chicken bones was the first thing that made me puke, but avoiding that, chicken broth might be a great idea!
Ghoule Don't be nervous about the note - you have every right to be off sick. I don't blame you being angry about that smug doctor.
MOH You're famous! I must go over and see. It's not schadenfreude not to want a quick recovery of the D of C make people think that this is something easily treated - besides, money is no object in her case, so there will be no offering of cyclezine rather than ondansetron because it's cheaper, etc etc and maybe even home IV available as it is in the US. My goodness, it hadn't occured to me, how awful if dr's get even more unsymapathetic about women with incontrollable vomiting because of the publicity!
Apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
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First Can you by pass the surgery and go straight there and while it may be difficult to admit you, they should for sure! Feel very [angry ] with that doctor.
I'm surprised they are not taking that level more seriously!
Lucinda
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Hello

sorry about above post.... was on my tablet and it crashed mid post but i never pressed post so didnt expect a half message.

the long and the short of it was im having a slightly better day today and did a short walk with my baby girl to the swings.
Think i absolutely exhausted myself though but i havent left the house for anything other than drs etc etc in over a month so it was nice to be out of these walls doing something nice.

I think im having a boy this time...

i know i still have HG but it hasnt been nearly as bad as last time, when i didnt get out of bed (except for drs etc) for 2 months, and for that whole entire time I actually thought i was dieing with no let up at all.

This time is definitely different

also these last few days i have felt a little better.... i have continued to vomit 5+ times a day (mostly all morning) but i have decided i dont mind actually being sick, if i dont feel horrendous.

Id sooner vomit a few times and feel semi human in between

First i agree with lucinder insist on immediate admission, and if its difficult go to A&E. 4+ is serious, ours admit at 3+..... I think its completely unprofessional for a Dr to refuse to see someone who is clearly extreamly poorly. (even if there are no appointments mine always tag me onto the end.... even when im there daily, as i have been a lot over the past few weeks, they have given me an appt without question. often my receptionist has to speak personally with a dr to ask for me to be added on, and they always insist that i come)

hope everyone else (inc Kate, i wonder if she will find us!) feel better soon xxx