Pregnancy after miscarriage -support thread- Part 2

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A new thread for us all to share our mutual anxieties, hopes and fears.

Petunia - hoping you're still around to read this....

Have been 3cm bigger than expected since 20 weeks (now 32 + 4). Then last week was suddenly 2 cm LESS than expected. MW put it down to position that baby was in (oblique i.e. not straight up and down). In terms of head down I was head down last Thursday but strongly suspect that little one has turned and is back to headup. If head up they will promptly start booking a cs for me (which will annoy me) but general advice is to go on all fours and give baby room to turn again. They were adament dd2 was head up but it turned out that she had a boney bum .

Are you putting your ankles up at night? It does help. Hows your bp doing?

Sorry - HK wishing you better soon honey. My dd1 was throwing up this morning and I'm not feeling my best at the moment so possibly.... Fingers crossed it just tiredness.

Thanks everyone for all your messages. I'm not feeling so emotional now! I remembered something earlier on, this is the first pg that I have been measured. So this might have happened with DDs. I don't think I'm that much bigger this time and I'm fairly sure that the baby is head down. So I'm just trying to look on the scan as something that is nice to have.

Wills- blood pressure is fine and I'm trying to put my feet up in the evenings.

Loads on telly tonight so I don't suppose many of you will be on here.
DH and others have gone to a concert tonight and I have to pick them up so have to stay up late. Anyhting past 10 is late for me.

Slink...I can jab myself in upper thigh area and abdomen but not near belly button. Did you get many bruises when you were doing it. i have been getting one a day. Not bad as I am jabbing myself twice a day.

oinker - you are doing really realy well, every day is a bonus, please don't worry about being too negative for us, we all know what you feel like. Yes you should see a heartbeat, very small, but it should be there, i saw my baby's at 7 wks too.

I am now 30 weeks!!!! woohoo.

HK - hope you're still taking it easy. i wouldn't be surprised if your bump has shrunk a bit after your sickness, baby is probably just resting now.

Think i might be having an emotional day, just watched "neighbours" repeat on UK Gold, and Libby is unconcious but has given birth to her baby, somehow. I was almost crying

Thanks all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Feeling loads better and guess what?
After a day of virtually no movement from babba she decided to make it up for it big time last night lol. I lay watching as my tum resembled something out of Alien, extending, bulging etc then got an almighty boot from her. She's been somersaulting all morning too so think she's making up for lost time.
Diddle- Congrats on 30 wks!!!!!!!!!!! Wahoooooo not long now!
I turned 16 wks yesterday. God it's going so quickly!
Hugs to all & hope everyone has a fab day.

Won't be on much over the w/end. It's ds2's 2nd birthday tomorrow and got dp's sister and neice coming to stay (thankfully just one night so I'll be able to catch up on bad night's sleep). Making his cake today and attempting to make a pidgeon to go on the top, yep a pidgeon!! He adores the things lol, squeals and shouts everytime he sees one so thought I'd indulge him and make one.

Morning,
HK glad all is well
Diddle -congrats on 30 weeks!

Morning all,
Sorry about yesterday. Feeling very about all my hormonal ranting. I'm normally a calm person but think the hormones are getting to me a bit!
It's kind of reassuring that other people have found that this measuring business isn't that accurate either.
kayzed- I've only just seen your message. It was the fundal height that the midwife was measuring and looking at my notes, I've been 2cms over all the way along. I think they only panic if you're 3+ cms over.

diddle and hellkat- well done on getting to 30 and 16wks.

Hope everyone else is well.

hello

excellent stuff diddle and hk - have a lovely weekend everyone else. Hellkat we definitely need a full report on the pigeon - what are you making it out of?! I'm off to that London, so hope it's not too exciting.

Hah Petunia, the midwives round here don't worry about 3+ cm over! Don't feel , well not on here anyway. I'm having a crap day too, someone I thought was a very dear friend has lied about something I did at work. It means that he's protected himself but left me seriously open to criticism for something I didn't do (it was his boss who did it and is renowed for slippery shoulders etc). I'm soooo hurt. I just want to walk out now and run away but suspect that's the hormonal side of me. Anyway HR are seeing me on Monday so am feeling crap crap crap.

Wills that's awful. Awful that you thought he was a friend and awful that it's affecting work. I've no advice sorry, I hate all that playground attitiude when you're supposed to be adult. I still ahd some friends like that til last year, glad I got away from them tbh. Hope all this goes well for you, and don't run anywhere you are not at fault.

wills- aw hun work sounds awful.

congrats diddle and hk for another week bites the dust:)

ive just come back from my antenatal appointment, i did my lucozade test, drinking all that lucozade has made me feel very strange and jittery, i have not had any caffine since conception and lucozade is full of it!
i asked dr about homebirth again and its a no way hosay situation! i also asked about waterbirth and she was really negative about that too- mostly due to my previous cs (9 years ago) so will have to fight that one at the time.
i asked will i go to term and she said well see. i was hoping for a more positve reaction but nevermind.
asked about starting yoga and that was a no no too.

oooh also good news swab result was pretty much clear:)

Slink, what's the lucozade test? Is it some kind of a glucose thing? I'd throw up if I had to drink it.

Wills- sorry you are having such a bad day! Childish behaviour espec at work drives me mental....

Slink, glad all is going well. I have my baby growth scan on Tues along with yet another cervical length. So if they have their way i will be on the Lucozade. (Actually looking forward to drinking it! I too haven't had caffeine so will be interesting....)

Will enquire about a waterbirth, hopefully they will agree as i really really want one. Seeing as after this i'm not having any more babies.

At dh's nans funeral on Tues a mum of a close friend of his (in fact its his best friend's mum!) came over to say sorry we are having another boy!!!! Obviously Mil has spread the word that she is soooo disappointed. But i'm not and its my third son so why can't she GET OVER IT????

On the bright side she has just offered to go out with dh today to buy me a dishwasher!! Yay! About time.....

Sorry. Feel more relaxed now

arabica- they give you a lucozade drink and tell you to down it within 5 mins and then have a blood test an hour later to check you have coped well processing the glucose. it did taste yuk. i think they might do it to everyone at 28 weeks.

snowboo, im sure they'll be fine with you having waterbirth:)
your MIL sounds a nightmare! what a thing to say, especially after losing a baby too, my MIL is on another planet too.
do you know what type of stitch you had? i was wondering whether i would need a spinal to have it out. i had the shirodkar stitch and read on the internet that i would need a spinal for removal although you can't trust the internet, but i forgot to ask.

Hi snowboo at least she's only your MIL. I'm estranged from my mum as she's bonkers. I started to tell you why but trust me it would take too long. Its a shame cos basically she's a lovely lady but at the moment she's screwing my kids up and we're heading towards her only being allowed to see them when either dh or I are around to supervise. My eldest comes home with the world on her shoulders and enormous guilt trips from my mother and at just six I really don't think this is on. So anyway - completely relate to weird mothers somewhere.

Well done Diddle and HK.
It's great to see you both getting on.

I have been slaving away in the kitchen today in preparation for DH's party tom.

I feel sick at the sight and thought of how many sausauge rolls, vol au vents, quiches,chilli, cheese and vegetable puffs I've baked.
I will not be eating any.. Trust me!!
I have every window in the house open to try and get rid of that awful pastry smell!!

I hope he appreciates it!

Hi ladies,
Have just returned from my nuchal scan and I don't know what to think. Everything on the scan was fine and the NT measurement was 1.7 which I know is a good measurement....however, because of my age (42) my risk factor is 1 in 88. I know this is a reduced risk considering my age but I somehow feel disappointed that it's less than 1 in 100 iykwim. Of course, they've offered an amnio (just like last time) but my gut feeling is not to have the amnio -it caused me so much anxiety last year although everything was fine in the end. Had a quick chat with my dh who feels the amnio is a risk that I shouldn't take and to take things as they come...What do you all think - I know everybody has different views on amnio but I would be interested to hear your opinions.

I had this exactly!!!! Went through hell and back as was adament that an amnio for me would result in m/c (not that I'm pessimissitic at all! ). Was advised to contact a clinic in Harley Street where they also look at the bridge of the nose. Also have they put your bloods into the equation? My consultant was adament that wouldn't make a difference but it did! Took it from 1: 115 to 1: 1112. I couldn't go through with an amnio and in the end didn't have to but honestly wouldn't have thought that that would have been my decision pre falling pregnant with this little one.

The clinic charge something like 150.00. Not a small amount but for me I'd have remortgaged the house etc. Trying to find the website now.

Wools, this is such a difficult decision for you to make and I really feel for you--hence the following v long post!

As you may know, I am 44 and last week had to have an amnio, at 21wks, because 'soft markers' of a fatal chromosone problem called Edwards Syndrome appeared on the 20wk scan.

I'd turned down the opportunity of CVS or amnio at my 12wk scan partly because my nuchal measurement was only 1.6 and my consultant did not push me to have any further tests, saying all the statistics were basically just invented in an office somewhere. With hindsight, however, I wish I had had the tests done at 12 weeks, for three main reasons.

One, that at 12 weeks, if you find that there is a problem so serious that you want to terminate the pregnancy (or heaven forbid, if the procedure causes a m/c), you won't have to deliver the baby. Later on that isn't an option.

Two, that had I gone ahead with the procedure and learned that the baby did not have Edwards, then when the soft markers appeared I would have immediately known there was nothing to be worried about.

Three, that by 20wks I'd felt the baby kick and was more attached to it than I had been 8 wks before. Losing a baby is devastating at any stage of pregnancy but I know it would have been far worse the further I was into it.

Obviously I could have waited, knowing that the chances of Edwards were very slim (most Edwards babies will show other symptoms) but I couldn't live with the anxiety once the prospect of a possible problem had been raised. You should bear in mind that very few 20wk scans show up any kind of problem and of those even fewer indicate a problem like Edwards which isn't compatible with life.

Slink- I've got to had a glucose test at 26 weeks for diabetes (all because my dad developed it late in lafe), is it the same thing? I've got to fast apparently for a few hours, have bloods, drink sugery stuff and have more bloods a couple of hours later.

Cake done!!!!!!!!!!!
But...............no pidgeon. Could'nt find any hard white icing to mix with my black so improvised and made his next fav thing. A dog!!!
It's a vanilla sponge with buttercream icing. Massive dog face on the front, choccy letters saying Happy 2 Birthday Damian, covered in chocolate curls (for fur lol) and lined around the outside with choccy buttons (3 different types dontcha know! ). I must say looks rather good.

Hope everyone has a great night & weekend (I'll try & get on, need my MN fix lol).
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pic of cake please!

have a good weekend everyone
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Wills, unfortunately my hospital only offer the nuchal and not bloods. So I need to make a decision based on that alone. I looked up the arhive threads on nuchals this afternoon and read yours - I'm so glad it turned out well for you.

Arabica, thanks for your thoughts. I really appreciate it as I know you went through this so recently yourself. I'm waiting for DH to come home from work to have a long chat with him. I'll use the weekend to think things over.

I'm so fed up at being in this position again...somehow I'd convinced myself that this nuchal result would be so much better than last time and I wouldn't have to make this horrible decision. I guess I'm lucky that the scan was a good one but in some ways that annoys me even more because what's the point of a good nt measurement if all they do is use age against it.