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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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feekerry · 03/11/2011 14:41

Hi everyone. Just a very quick update from me as bt have done something to my internet and its almost not usable. . Had my 20 week scan this week. All is well. . . And i'm having a little girl! She's a little on the small side but there not too concerned at this stage as all is well. I wonder if its got something to do with me being so ill in the early days and not eating? Anyways, she's fine and i'm fine so thats what matters. X x

Emily271 · 03/11/2011 14:50

Hey I had really bad HG for 5 constant weeks, and lost so much weight I actually weighed less than before I got pregnant! I know it sounds odd but the ONLY thing that helped me stop being sick was lamb kebabs every night! I tried all sorts of medication and herbal stuff, but in the end kebabs was the only thing that stopped me vomiting! The doctor said it must have been a protein deficiency causing me to vomit so much. Just thought I'd share my own personal cure with others out there. hope you all get better xx

horseynewmum · 03/11/2011 14:56

feekerry glad your baby ok and I've been told the more ill you are the healthier your baby. Hmm

louby i understand how you feel re returning back to work before mat. I'm having same problem with work since I've been off with HG ringing me up to bully me to work even tho doctor note says i'm not fit to. Then when that didnt work asking me to come in for a formal chat about my sickness again while I had a sick note and now they want me in to discuss my position within the company again while i'm signed off. also my supervisor basically said good luck in the future cause i fucking need it and good luck when I want a reference. Angry

Lucinda I feel like the dog is my only friend at times. He wants to be rond me no matter what I'm doing and that includes toilet hugging Blush

theonlyhb2 · 03/11/2011 15:03

congratulations hefty! Lovely name. Grab a handful of chocolates, cuppa and throw away the sick bowl!

On my fone which is currently bane of my life so be short and sweet!

MoP so right when she said i totally changed after birth. Pregnancy and HG totally changed my personality. Was depressed couldn'tofork get out of bed be happy about it at all. Even now i can't believe that truly horrible time and the wiggling in my belly was Harper. It just doesn't correlate to me. Birth is the greatest relief ever. Even nearly dying didn't make me feel worse. Hospital staff thought i was taking the mick saying i had never felt so good all year as soon as i woke from anaesthetic (demanding food!)

really feel for all you newbies, hang in there! Will seem like a dream this time next year and you will never worry what you eat again!

horseynewmum · 03/11/2011 15:06

Emily I understand about weight thing. I weigh less now then b4 preg and I was on a diet and doing keep fit. I can fit in to my old size 10 jeans which I've not fitted in for 6 months plus before HG lol

Strange you mention lamb Kebabs as i've been craving them for a wk now and I dont eat meat lol Confused

theonlyhb2 · 03/11/2011 15:09

Emily, i went thru a stage of craving burgers and all i could eat was them once anti sickness tablets kicked in. OH said i was bound to be ill eating from the local kebab shop but it always stayed down! I lived on junk food with extra salt for most the time. Show me a vegetable and i was hugging the toilet again!

Lou yr boss makes me so angry and is deffo the C word! Stress makes everything so much worse. Hope he gets the book (or a brick?!) thrown at him in court!

marylou242 · 03/11/2011 17:09

Hi, just popping in to say I'm still on the waiting list. Despite feeling like I'm going to any minute, I have not yet gone pop. Hopefully one more week to go and no longer.

Sorry to hear about unsympathetic bosses etc. At least going to court should hopefully make him think twice about how he treats his staff in the future.

For anyone suffering, I just wanted to mention that first time I had HG until 8 months. This time, it seemed to mostly disappear about 5/6 months so there is hope! You never know when it's going to go away.

I agree about junk food. My top foods were crisps, Cadbury's boosts, chips and fishcakes/fishfingers with lots of salt. That is about all. Top drinks: clear, non-fizzy sports drinks and watery hot chocolate. The only remotely healthy thing I could keep down was strawberry yogurt drink. I hope this helps somebody.

I am not sure if the difference between the length of my HG was down to taking cyclizine this time, and very unhelpfully being prescribed nothing last time. They do say the earlier you treat it, the better effect the drugs have. I recommend taking every cyclizine tablet with a vitamin B6 pill. This is a tip which is on the Helpher website (an American site about HG). It really reduced the spinny, zombie feeling. Also I found that if you suffer from the dreaded 'bile run' it's best just to get it over with every morning before you take any pills. Nothing seemed to stop the bile run for me and if I had the cyclizine before the bile run's scheduled time, it just came straight back up.

Last pregnancy, I was so down my DH was really quite worried and thought I would 'reject' the baby as I'd feel it was the cause of me being so ill. This time around I've not been so down, I think this is because I was given some treatment early on but HG is a pretty good reason to get depressed in my opinion.

theonlyhb2 · 03/11/2011 20:12

one of the main "side effects" of HG is depression. My Dr did seem to be very worried about this for me and also PND, i was on the brink of depression i think but finding this place was a god send cos i realise i wasn't alone.

my aunt recently had a really nasty virus where she was constantly sick, nauseous and couldn't keep anything down. she is a tough old bird but it really scared her and her husband ended up calling an ambulance. she said to me she has no idea how I did that every day, she couldn't cope after 2 days.

Cosmogirl · 03/11/2011 20:27

Evening ladies,

Feekerry - congratulations on a girl & glad all is well. I'm sure she'll make up the weight in the remaining weeks.

Louby/Horseynewmum - sorry about issues with work. I think it is one of the worst things about this illness - the ignorance among people and lack of awareness. I remember my boss would say stuff like 'I've never seen someone as ill as you when pregnant', whilst also making me feel I was putting it on. Way to make me feel like a freak and a liar. It really screwed with my already exhausted and drained HG head.

Marylou - your experience gives me hope re a better experience second time around. One more week! Bet you are so relieved.

So, just waiting for AF, due any moment...then, this will be the first cycle we give it a go! Feeling surprisingly ok about it and interested to see how things go. We fell very quickly first time with DD, so not sure if the same will happen or it will take longer this time. I guess if it does take longer, in a weird way it won't be dreadful as it will be another month of no HG possibility! However, ask me again if we get to 6 months trying & I may have changed my mind on that!

Waves to everyone else & hope all suffering are managing ok. x

Magnumwhite · 03/11/2011 20:53

Will be thinking of you Cosmo

Things a bit better here since finished antibiotics. Still have a nasty productive cough but am more functional again so hoping to be at funeral next week. its on the day of my 20wk scan - hospital were great and moved it to....tomorrow!

Pretty resigned here to feeling nauseaus til the end again now, though at least the retching is under control if i eat really regularly. only want to eat rice based things now - Rice Crispies, Salt and Vinegar Rice snack a jacks, teriaki rice cakes, curry, stir fry. anything indo asian. As this is not exactly my cooking forte I am spending a fortune on these wonderful pot meals that Innocent and most supermarkets do. HG is also not great for my carbon footprint...lots of packaging and ready meals that i would normally never buy!

love to you all

Daisy1986 · 03/11/2011 21:24

My DD is now 2 but I suffered with this in my pregnancy I lost a 1.5 stone in 6 days was admitted into hospital by week 6 what little urine there was looked the colour of golden syrup. I was at Uni at the time so took a month off to recover and went home to be looked after by parents. At full term I only weighed 2lbs more then I did before I was pregnant (which was the only plus side was back in normal clothes in 3 days in fact my pre pregnancy clothes were too big and I weighed nearly a stone less after having DD then I did before.)

All I really want to say is yes its awful and quite frankly there was a point when I wished I wasn't pregnant and just wanted to curl up and stay there. However, for all the worrying about her not getting enough nutrients etc she was a healthy 7lb 14ozs and now she is head and shoulders taller then those the same age. My pregnancy condition has made no difference to her whatso ever. So please for those of you suffering now, drink little and often I was put on motilium which worked quite well and get the help you need.

ElliottsMummy · 04/11/2011 10:48

Hi all, sorry haven't been on for a while but have had a slow and painful recovery from Chloe's forcep birth including an extremly painful infection in my stitches :(

But all is now well - she will be 4 weeks old tomorrow (can't believe how fast time has flown by!!) and is sleeping and feeding well. Have posted a couple pictures of her and her very proud big brother on my profile! :)

Can't believe how many newbies have joined since I last posted - sorry you are all here. If it makes you feel any better, HG already seems like a distant memory to me after only a few short weeks, and hopefully the good days will outweigh the bad for you all very soon.

Good luck Marylou and MotherofPearl as your due dates approach and you prepare to join us in the pink castle :) Brew

MotherofPearl · 04/11/2011 13:25

ElliotsMummy, those are lovely pics - Chloe is gorgeous and your DS looks very pleased with himself indeed, being the big brother!
Feekerry, congratulations on the girl! It's exciting to see them at 20 weeks - I remember it giving me a bit of a boost at the time.
Cosmo, really good luck with the TTC and really hope that you have better luck this time round and no HG.
Marylou, the waiting is a pain isn't it, but as you say, not long now.
I had my 38 week check-up yesterday. The consultant has booked me for a membrane sweep on my EDD as he doesn't want me to go much beyond that otherwise baby's going to get bigger and I have some scar tissue problems from the first time around (like ElliotsMummy I had a forceps delivery with DD, and then infected stitches, which leds to all sorts of problems which hopefully you'll avoid). Really hoping for natural delivery with no tearing, which is my greatest fear!

horseynewmum · 04/11/2011 14:48

All bestmarylou and Pearl with your arrivals.
ElliotsMummy sorry to hear you had infection but glad all well now.

LucindaE · 04/11/2011 20:11

MaryLou Thanks Oh goodness, you suffered for eight months last time and had no medication?! Barbaric, Sad truly barbaric...Good luck for popping! Great advice, too, and encouragement. I bet you and Pearl are a splendid size now!
Emily Thanks That is fascinating about kebabs. Thank you so much for posting!
Daisy ThanksThanks for posting and that sounded truly awful, I'm glad your parents looked after you.
Feekerry Congratulations on scan and girl! Grin That twenty week scan is so exciting...
Magnum Hugs to you about nausea, that is so horrible that it hangs on for you, it may not be as bad as vomiting uncontrollably, but it is still awful enough. I always say those who have suffered throughout deserve a medal Bravery Beyond the Call of Maternity Hmm.
Cosmo All luck with ttc
Louby Hear hear to TheOnly's words...
Elliot's Mummy and Pearl Poor poor things about those infected stiches. I had them too, due to blood loss and being ill, and they are excrutiating...I do have scar tissue, too, I remember I mentioned it to the MW. Lol. 'Who's going to look?' she said. Did she really not know who???!!!
Horsey Thank goodness for dog, they're not squeamish. But I am sure he isn't your only friend, though I'm not surprised you feel down with the recent treatment you've had. Hugs.
Spannermary Alias SM and Everyone I have rudely ignored, how are you?
LucindaE
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fuzzymummytoemma · 05/11/2011 22:31

Hiya, I am new here :) I have a 2 and a half year old girl and suffered Hyperemesis up until she was born 7 weeks early, I was admitted 3 times to hospital that time, I am now 15 weeks pregnant and unfortunately suffering again, I have already been admitted 4 times, I am also a type 1 diabetic which makes the Hyperemesis that bit harder to manage. Well that a little bit about me lol x

LucindaE · 06/11/2011 09:48

FuzzyMumma Welcome. Poor you, four admissions already, I hope things get a lot better soon. You are brave to go through it again after three admissions last time. You are the expert, now, so I am sure you are a dab hand at knowing what helps...I hope the medical people have been working at prescribing...Everyone is very supportive on here. Feel free to moan all you like if you wish Sad.
Lucinda
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smk84 · 06/11/2011 13:40

Hi all, and welcome Fuzzy (I am new too). I really hope things get better for you soon too. I hope you have good support as I know what it's like having a 2.5 DC !
Lucinda I am ok thanks. Had rough few days of not keeping anything down, but took meds yesterday and it gave me a break. I am learning that all I can eat is toast ! How are you?
Horsey I cannot believe your work situ, it's disgraceful and I wish you all the best in getting justice. And of course I hope you are feeling better soon.

horseynewmum · 06/11/2011 16:52

smk84 I know and the worst bit is im gaining my evidence for a meeting with my union and with my mutual friend on fb printing of screen shots has made it very hard with my supervisor saying 'sick note for .............. is fair enough but the other sick note i've never herd such bullshit.' and 'I better go to ths doctor as he hands out sick notes like candy.' really upsetting me.

All i'm getting now is either how you have let me down, or hope you looking after that baby. What about how am I feeling.

Me and DH had a big fall out last night after a row about money. how i'm not earning and things are getting tight.Unfortuantly with me being of sick I only get SSP and its not alot but I don't feel like having it rubbed in my face when I feel so low about the whole thing.

My mum tried to cheer me up today by bringing pictures of me as a new born saying this is why you going through it, unfortuantly to me it made me feel worse. I've hit a low that I've not hit in last 5/6 years when I was diagnosed with depression.

Sorry about the moan

How is everyone else feeling

MotherofPearl · 06/11/2011 21:17

Oh dear Horsey, it sounds like you're having an awful time. The situation with your employer sounds terrible. Angry I thought pregnant women (regardless of whether they are HG sufferers or not) were protected under sections of the equalities legislation? Surely they can't get away with treating you like this. People don't seem to realise that with HG it can be hard enough to drag yourself out of bed and into the shower, let alone go to work. Really hope things improve for you.
Yes welcome Fuzzy - sorry to hear you're going through it for the second time.
Smk, mmm, toast! I have found it a godsend at times, especially white toast which I would never normally eat.
Yes indeed Lucinda, splendid size now. Feel like a whale and have got to the stage when even walking up the stairs at home seems like a major ordeal and leaves me panting for breath! Feeling a bit sorry for DD as I'm not doing much with her at the moment because I have zero energy, not much of a fun mummy. DP takes her to the park and she's had a friend to play this weekend, so not too bad for her I guess.
Right, I should stop wittering on and get some sleep.
Wishing everyone a good and vom-free (or at least minimal voms) week! :)

LucindaE · 06/11/2011 21:37

Horsey I am shocked, and can only second Pearl. Surely this is sex discrimination because it's a pregnancy caused illness? I wasn't sure what you meant about the messages, I must be being obtuse tonight, but it all sounds outrageous, and surely the union must follow it through. I am sure money worries are bad, but OH must see that you are not doing it on purpose, who'd choose to have Hyperemesis? Poor you, cyber hugs, this is a tough time, but I am sure things will get better soon. Sending you some virtual Thanks. Try not to feel too bad, remember This Too Will Pass'. It did for Grumblin who asked for a suitable mantra, and it will for you, too...Smile
SMA Toast is nice and comforting, I am glad something stays down. How are meds now? I hope you aren't having to ration them, that wouldnot do at all?
Pearl I am sure you are a very nice whale lol, Grin that sounded like a nice weekend for DD anyway. Is the nausea any better?
Fuffy How are you today/this evening?
I hope everyone is managing...
Lucinda
xx

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fuzzymummytoemma · 07/11/2011 08:49

It is hard to be going through it again although I did no wat to expect, doesn't make it any easier though, my doctors and nurses are great, HG is understood here and when I am in hospital some of the nurses looking after me have actually went through it themselves which helps as they really understand what it's like and give me advice, hope u are all well, when ur at ur worst it feels like it is never going to end, I have been here and had all the bad thoughts that been so I'll make you think, believe me it does get better, mine has eased at the min although it could flare up at any time and put me back in hospital, I have keto sticks which tell me wen I need to go to hospital. This will be my last pregnancy as I wouldn't put my hubby, children or my self through it again. Keep well and positive :o need any advice just ask x

horseynewmum · 07/11/2011 14:10

Hi fuzzy sorry to hear you going thro HG again. When i was in hospital the midwives and nurses were so nice saying they understand how i'm feeling and it is worth it in the end which you understand. (i'm only 12 wks with first). Did yours go after first trimester with your first?

Lucinda and pearl thank you sorry I went a bit overboard on here with last message but i was in such a state i need to let it all out. Going back to doctor this week to talk about how depressed i'm becoming as my mum is concerned due to my past depression. Lucinda basically the fb status are stating i'm making it up and that cetain people dont believe how ill I am. My union is taking it seriously but its having to compile the evendince is very upsetting for me. Surely doctor notes and the fact i've been in hospital twice is proof enough how ill someone is but some people are so blind.

smk84 how are you today?

How everyone else feeling?

grandmaagain · 07/11/2011 15:44

I lurk here as the Mum of an ex sufferer to support your mums. It is hard watching you beautiful girls suffer (and I mean beautiful you are all doing a miraculous thing) so to all Grans- to- be out there a big hug from me Thanks

fuzzymummytoemma · 07/11/2011 18:16

Hi horseynewmum sry ur having to go through as well, with my 1st the severity lasted until 12 weeks by that I mean needing hospital admittance, however I was sick now and again stil but it was slot easier to deal with and I was able to eat loads, with this pregnancy I am now just over 15 weeks and I was in hospital at week and felt sick today so it seems to be lasting longer this time, I'm hoping for relief soon, fingers crossed. I found with my first that as soon as my bump appeared the sickness eased, dont no it it had anything t do with it or it was just coincidence .

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