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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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horseynewmum · 30/10/2011 19:07

How is everyone today?
I unfortunatly woke up at 6am this morning just to be sick. Not done that for a week :( thankfully not been sick too many times after that. Been asleep most the day.
Having a very low day today with lots of tears. Since my pregnancy and HG my work has basically wished me good luck in the future as I need it. They wont dismiss me but not making it easy for me when i do go back. on the other side I've had to tell the owner of the 2 horses i've had on share fpr 3 plus years that I cant look after them at the current moment to be told that i'm letting her down and she cant cope with them on her own making me feel guilty that they wont get cared for like they did.
All this is making me having I hate being pregnant day and i'm feeling so hopeless being unable to do anything simple like get up and let dog out without being exhausted.
Is feeling this low normal with HG?

MotherofPearl · 31/10/2011 08:58

Horsey, that low feeling is pretty typical with HG as far as I know, and certainly in my experience. It is very hard to feel excited or happy about being pregnant when you are ground down with feeling and being sick on a daily basis, day after day, week after week! In many ways I have found it the most difficult part of the condition, and I know my relationship with DP has suffered as a result of it. But, the good news that we all know it will eventually end, even if it feels like forever. All the women on the thread who come back on after having their babies say how they go back to feeling sane and normal! I noticed in theonly for example, a complete change in her tone after the birth of her DD - she always sounds so cheerful and breezy nowadays! So hang in there.
Lucinda, hope that migraine has gone away?
I had a nasty puke yesterday afternoon after lunch at the PILs - they made pasta which I know I can never keep down but felt bad refusing it. Sadly the moment we got home I had to rush up to the bathroom and it was all out! Gross.

LucindaE · 31/10/2011 10:11

Horsey Oh dear, I do sympathise, but things will get better, for sure. It is very hard to glow with happy anticipation when feeling ubelievably terrible. Is there no chance of your horse partner and bosses reading up on MOHs information at the start of the thread?
Pearl Thanks, it has gone today, hurray! Pasta? Poor you, I had a dreadful experience with pasta bake that left a wardrobe spattered high up as I dashed by...It is horrible on the way up again...
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 31/10/2011 11:19

LucindaE re the horsey partner I told her my condition name and it was oh its only a form of morning sickness so that went tits up. My bosses haven't responded to any of my letters re: my condition and hospital admissions to them they losing money as lost a member of staff. What the pregnancy has taught me is that where I felt that people vauled me as person isn't true they only vauled what I could do for them and now I can't do anything I'm no vaule. Glad migraine has gone.
Pearl sorry to here that. I found if it don't make a nice trip back up I don't eat it again.[henvy]

fluffywhitekittens · 31/10/2011 11:48

Horsey, one of the most difficult things to deal with is dealing with the fact that you are not going to have a marvellous, glowing pregnancy. We're so used to the whole "pregnancy isn't an illness" attitude and the idea that you can just breeze through it and carry on as normal. When you have HG it's ok to " mourn" the pregnancy that you expected iyswim.
If your work partners aren't prepared to evn make the effort to begin to understand your illness then they are the worthless ones.
I was so lucky when I did work that staff were understanding. One of them looked up HG on the Internet and printed stuff off, on her own bless her.
SpannerMary, hopefully you will start to feel a bit better around week 18-20. You've had a busy and stressful time, even if you had a good time the travelling will have taken it out of you.
Lucinda I'm so pleased I've found someone more technologically inept than me :) although many years ago my dad brought the school computer home one holiday and I somehow managed to loose most of the children's work, oops.

Happy Halloween to everyone, hope you're not feeling too bad today, we're going trick or treating for the first time tonight as ds was only a couple of weeks old last year. Dd is very much looking forward to getting lots of sweeties [hgrin]

allias · 31/10/2011 18:43

Helllooooo!! Just popping in shamelessly asthough I haven't been AWOL for months!!
I have been so ill and down and felt like a boring skipped record moaning at you all and promising to catch up with you all and then failling miserably.

I have had a rough time with Dh, I found out some stuff that has left me quite broken, and on top of HG it has been a nightmare few months and I feel robbed that my pregnancy will not be a happy, glowing time. I am quite angry and depressed to be honest.

I'm sorry I haven't been here to support you all as you have always helped me but I'm gonna do my best to be around more.

I haven't been back to work since I last posted and I must admit my manager has been great. My maternity leave will start soon so I don't have to worry work wise although money wise it's horrid.

I am sorry to sound negative to the newer posters who are in the earlier months as at week 32 myself and doctor have resigned ourselves that my HG will be here to birth. I don't want it to seem hopeless to you and want to stress that everyone is different and you may well find that you start to feel better and I really hope you do as I wouldn't even wish HG on my enemy

Well...... I've gone on for ages there, oh forgot to say congrats to all the pink castle residents :)

smk84 · 31/10/2011 19:57

Hi all , big hugs to everyone. You are all so inspirational and honest.
Lucinda - I am trying to buy some ketostix online - is that right? All of the reviews of the product talk about low carb diets and the atkins diet. I am pretty sure they are what the MW used though. I have hardly kept anything down today and have been for one measley wee all day so am trying to rehydrate tonight. I went to the doc again on Fri and told him cyclizine wasn't working , and he prescribed stemetil and when I got home I read the info inside and I felt I couldn't take it. Have been on no meds for 3 days now and think it's getting worse that it was on them, so might go back on the cyclizine. Wondering if anyone knows the sort of progression of anti-emetics as I am wondering if my doc has moved straight on to a harder strength one missing out some 'lighter' ones?
Horsey - awful how your employers are treating you, they obviously don't deserve you. I so sympathise with not enjoying things.
Another quick question - with my DS, I had mildish nausea, no vomiting and it passed after first trimester. This time has been a complete nightmare and am just wondering if there's a glimmer of hope that it might ease off like last time?
I am intrigued about the pink castle !! Have worked out you go there when your baby is born, but is there more to it???
So thankful for this thread. My sanity is waning !!! Have scan tomorrow (early one at 8.5 weeks as I just need to know all is well) so praying for good news.

smk84 · 31/10/2011 19:58

Allias - big hugs xx

horseynewmum · 31/10/2011 20:31

Allias sorry to hear your having a rough time and not all going well. Don't worry about sounding negative least your being honest about HG. I can understand about the feeling depressed as I feel like this pregnancy has ruined alot for me. It is amazing how our minds control us.
I feel I'm pushing my Husband away at moment. He is being a star and doing so much to help me but as my nearest person I'm taking all my fustration out on him. Not cause I don't appreaciate him but cause I feel helpless with all this.
smk84 thank you for the sympathy.

spannermary · 31/10/2011 23:46

horseynewmum I could transcribe your last message word for word. DH and I definitely feeling the strain of HG.

He's amazing - he's looking after me fantastically (for example tonight he made cottage pie from scratch after I mentioned it a couple of days ago) and is sorting the house for our new arrival.

But he doesn't quite get how depressing and stressful and dehabilitating this is: he keeps saying I'm reverting to the depression I had 5 years ago. I'm not - I'm suffering from HG. The reasons I'm feeling down are completely rational and will disappear with the sickness!

Awww - love him to bits...

LucindaE · 01/11/2011 12:28

Oh dear, things sound bad for several of you... Cyber hugs on offer, if anyone wants them.
Alias You should have come on to moan, that is what this thread is for. I am so sorry it is still around at 32 weeks, that is bad luck, it was the same for Grumblin on the old thread, it is very hard. I am so sorry you have found out things that have hurt you, what a time for that to happen, I hope you start to feel less upset about whatever it is soon. What people do to you, shouldn't affect your sense of self worth, only if you let yourself down, and for sure, you haven't, tobe coming on encouraging others...
Horsey That is so mean of your horse partner: - 'It's only a form of M/S...' about as much as a migraine is a form of headache, very annoying. People don't truly understand at all. The bosses really should have responded, this makes me Angry. Don't think that their aren't people out there who do appreciate you as a person, but this profit oriented, consumerist society does make people exploitative sometimes, and insensitive, too.
Spannermary Who wouldn't be depressed with Hyperemesis? Should you remove your head from the loo to crack jokes?!
SMA I wish I could advise you about meds, but as I only had funny little pills from Acupunturist I don't know the order they prescribe them in in pregnancy- seems as though they avoid Ondensetron because its expensive, though I think it's become less so of late. Cyclazine and Stemetil seem common ones, and another one the name of which I've forgotten. I think as in ordinary M/S the first tri is still by far the worst usually in Hyperemesis, that's the time people really seem to get dehydrated. For most it eases sometime between 14 and 20 weeks, sometimes later. Some unlucky women suffer throughout, but I don't think they usually suffer quite as badly as at the beginning. The Pink Castle came about because I was remembering an old Snakes and Ladders game I had when little that had a picture of a pink castle in the clouds at the winning place, and I think NitNat said this thread was like a horrible board game, with people for instances going back two places, bile run, forward one place, ate some crisps and they stayed down Shock. A virtual Pink Castle with many babies in it. I think Fluffy has baby proofed it already...
Fluffy IT and myself are incompatable, usually...
I hope everyone is coping today.
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 01/11/2011 19:01

Hi how is everyone today? I've taken a few steps baack and have spent quite a bit of toilet hugging time this afternoon. Was feeling very low today and got little bit stressed this pm and I think thats what set me off. just wanna curl up and hope it all goes away.

MotherofPearl · 01/11/2011 20:04

Hello everyone,
Horsey, so sorry to hear you're still feeling rubbish. And like others have said, I totally related to your post about pushing away your DH/DP even if they're being kind and helpful. HG seems to turn you in on yourself I find.
And Alias, how dreadful for you to have these problems with DH on top of feeling ill. Hope things work themselves out. 32 weeks and still sick is no picnic is it? I am 37+5 and still stuck on 1 vom a day!
smk84, as Lucinda says, for many HG sufferers (like me, Alias and others), the sickness and nausea persists all the way through, but some people do get completely better, and I think pretty much everyone improves somewhat over time. Even though I'm still sick, I'm nothing like as bad as I was in the early weeks (weeks 7-16 were the worst, that's when I had my hospital admission, started on meds etc). I can eat a reasonable amount if I stick to 'safe' foods, and I have a good routine going where I know what to expect. RE medication, MOH is the expert on that. All I will say is how long did you try the cyclizine for? It's worth keeping going for a few weeks, and it seems to work best if you take the exact dose prescribed at the same times every day. I think it was NitNat or maybe Grumblin on the old thread who always advised taking the first cyclizine of the day while still in bed, and then try to doze and keep still for about an hour. Then get up and eat whatever is tolerable to you for breakfast. Keeping on a strict routine with cyclizine and getting lots of sleep helped me enormously in the beginning.
Phew, what a long post! To finish it off, here's an updated EDD list:

Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012

Some of those at the top we've not heard from for a while - any news? Horsey, Spanner and any other newbies, please feel free to add yourselves to the list, copy and repost. :)

MotherofPearl · 01/11/2011 20:05

PS. How did scan go smk84?

horseynewmum · 01/11/2011 20:11

my EDD is 24/5/12

allias · 01/11/2011 21:05

smk84 I found that Cyclizine tablets has to work their way into your system for you to really get the best from them.
Once you take them for a few days they work better, I know that when I ran out of them the first day wasn't as bad as the third without them.
I was given metrocloprymide(sp) first and they werent too great on their own and I still ended up having to have drips etc, When I went back to my Gp she perscribed cyclizine to take aswell and told me to take them alternative days. She sent me to hospital and I needed lots of hydration bags and vitamins and had lots of ketones, I think they thought I was starving myself cos they sent someone in to ask when the last time I'd eaten was. I'm a very large woman and I suppose they were shocked that I had so many ketones. I was refered to gyno lady and she came and told me about the "HG Bay" where you can go in without being reffered and get treatment. She also told me to take Metrocloprmide(sp) and cyclizine together one 2 hrs after each other so that my body always has some med working, so I take 3 of each daily.
Maybe you can ask to try the metrocloprmide(sp)? I do find cyclizine makes me very spacey and when I have the injections they work much better but also more potent and leave me dizzy. I still feel dizzy and spaced out on them but it's not such a shock anymore as I have gotten used to the feeling.
I still have N&V but can keep bread down on good days so have been living on sandwiches, There's times when I cant eat anything and I have a HUGE list of foods I cannot eat at all, eating out is nearly impossible and I always end up voming when we do. Without the two meds nothing at all stays down and even drinks find their way back up.

Horsey - I am amazed at just how low HG has gotten me and I feel so tired and have days where I just cry. I'm glad your DH is being so understanding and helpful.
Sorry you are having a rough day - sending hugs

Hi spannermary, You are sooo right, HG is dehabilitating in the early non medicated days I just couldnt get out of bed and still get days like that now.
I cant do much to be honest and need to rest alot and if I push myself I get shaky and feel like i'll pass out. The other thing is I cant plan days in advance cos I dont know how I'll feel one day to the next.

Lucinda!! Thanks so much for your kindness and such wise words.

Ah MotherofPearl you're a "longtimer" too, 37weeks, It's such a shame that we haven't had it taper off but I just keep saying "not long now" it feels so trite at times but thats the only way I can get through the real down times. You will soon be in the Pink Castle yourself :)

I see I forgot to update my EDD added it in thge list with horsey's

Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD 23/12/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
horseynewmum: EDD 24/5/12

smk84 · 02/11/2011 09:55

Hi all , big hugs out to you all again. I know I keep going on about it, but I am so encouraged by this thread - I was explaining to my husband how lonely and isolated I have been feeling, and this thread helps no end. I find that all this has taken over life, not really been out for 3 weeks and find it hard to even get in the shower, so having you guys to talk to is really uplifting.
People who are still suffering towards the end - so much respect for you, and love the idea of the pink castle !!
Allias, Mother and Lucinda - thank you for info on meds. I took 3 doses yesterday as I couldn't face thought of throwing up on 2 hour round trip to scan (had to drive myself) and it seemed to help, but I had the most awful stomach ache last night I didn't know what to do with myself and wondered if it was the tabs.
Scan went well, saw heartbeat and was relieved to find only 1 baby (several people had said maybe it's twins with being so sick!). Seeing the baby has really helped me to feel more positive. Now if I feel like death I am gonna imagine the picture (I will actually be able to look AT the picture at some point when DH goes back to collect it from MIL where he left it last night !!)
mother I tried cyclizine for a week.
Allias I know what you mean about eating out ! For me just the smell of cooking is enough to make me run to the loo! I have been hiding in the lounge at meal times.
*SpannerMary" it's interesting what you say about depression, I had really bad PND for months after DS was born, and I have been feeling quite similar emotionally with all this sickness (little/no pleasure, fighting through each day and feeling like wanting to give up at times), but like you say it is very different knowing exactly what the cause is, that it's physical not mental, and that it will go when the sickness goes.

Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD 23/12/11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
horseynewmum: EDD 24/5/12
smk84: EDD 8/6/12

LucindaE · 02/11/2011 11:14

Everyone I have to rush off to catch a train to Newtown for my Welsh but am hoping everyone has as good a day as they can. Hugs to all, sorry about relapses, those are so discouraging, but after you have had one good day, they seem to start happening more often, thank goodness.Smile
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 02/11/2011 19:48

Back again from Newtown 'in the wind and rain' (I love that second verse of 'Round and Round the garden')...
SMK Lovely news about scan! I am so glad that this thread is helping you, too. It is horrible suffering from something as you say, so isolating.Driving with Hyperemesis, I don't know how people do it!
AliasI am so glad it's a bit better than the first tri, but still sounds bad enough...Lots of women say how Cyclazine makes them feel 'spaced out'; it must be awful, as one feels weird enough, anyway. That 'drop in' bay for Hyperemesis sounds just the thing.
I'll start fluffing up cushions for Pearl at the Pink Castle in readiness.
Horsey I hope you are having a non loo hugging day, today? Really, one wants a nice picture painted on it, staring down it as one does.
I hope people have had better days today...
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 02/11/2011 19:51

Spannermary Sorry, I rudely forgot you, how are things with you and Everyone else?
Lucinda
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horseynewmum · 02/11/2011 20:46

Lucinda had a rough nignt last night so spent most the morning asleeep with the dog. He won't leave me unless its walk time and he always checks I'm ok before he has food. Completly different dog since i fell pregnant. (think someone swapped him LOL). Been to doctor today and they happy how brighter I look. He did say I still look pale but nothing compared to what I have. On cyclezine for another 2 wks then take it from there he said.
Re toilet hugging sometimes I wish it could hug you back
How is everyone else today?

LucindaE · 03/11/2011 08:16

Horseymum Animals are strange like that! I remember when I was upset about something, and a horse at the stables where my daughter had lessons kept nuzzling me. Cyber hugs from me, if not from the loo! I think that dr will probably have to keep you on the meds a while by the sound of things.
Everyone Lol I remember saying to Louby that her boss deserved to have his trousers come down in a supermarket, that nearly happened to OH, he's been overdoing the weights...

Lucinda
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louby86 · 03/11/2011 11:05

Hello everyone!

So sorry it's been so long! I went to catch up and the thread had disappeared off my phone list Sad so I've hunted you all back down and am going to spend the rest of the morning reading up on everyone so I can come back and do personals later/tomorrow with the laptop!

Not posted for ages due to work issues, looks like it's going to court for sex discrimination which is what I wanted to avoid but hey ho!

I'm 25 weeks pregnant now and sick about once a week at the minute, looking back when I first started being ill I struggled to see how I'd make it this far but not only does time fly when you're having fun, it also flies when you've got your head over the toilet Grin

Anyways, hope you're all ok as can be, I'm off to catch up now! Grin

LucindaE · 03/11/2011 12:58

Louby Welcome back, talk about synchronicity, I mentioned you in the post below and here you are...It's bad you have to go to court, you don't need stress as it always seems to make things worse, but it sounds like they deserve it. I'm glad being sick has eased off to once a week, but at twenty-five weeks that is far from ideal...How is the nausea now?
Lucinda
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louby86 · 03/11/2011 14:14

Hello Lucinda I think we've got some sort of telepathic powers Grin

Hope your OH managed to keep his trousers up too Grin

I'm just having to be really sensible now, not really sick if I don't have a late night, I'm still off work too, not 100% sure if I'll go back before I start maternity or not but we'll see. My sickness usually comes at the weekend when I try to be sociable with DH so I suppose it's a bit self inflicted, I'm just wary I don't want to waste what time we've got while it's just me and him.

I've got a whole list of personals to type up when I get my computer back!!!

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