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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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spannermary · 07/11/2011 19:22

Hello all!! Hope you're all surviving...I've had 5 barf free days - amazing!
Now I just need to regain some of the weight I've lost. 18 weeks and still about half a stone lighter than pre-pregnancy. Could be worse.

Horseynewmum there are no words for how despicable your boss is being! (Well, there are a few, but I'm far too polite...) I know I'm really fortunate that so far my work have been nothing short of wonderful. Mind you, I've not been in for 2 months, and have 3 weeks left on my sicknote. Then when I go back in, there's 3 weeks before a 2 week christmas holiday and then only 6 weeks till mat leave!

They may go off me rapidly...

Lots of support to all of you - and wish me luck in continuing my sick-free streak. Maybe 18 weeks is the lucky one for me...or maybe I'm just being given a little holiday in the middle. Hope not.

feekerry · 07/11/2011 19:49

hello all!

finally back online. cheers BT. not.
haven't had time to flick back through the posts but sorry to see there are some new sufferers. Sad
spannermary i'm 21 weeks now and still 1st lighter than pre pregnancy. i was 1st7 lighter than pre pregnancy up until about 15 weeks but starting to gain some weight now. seem to be able to eat alot of chocolate without vom!

horseynewmum · 07/11/2011 20:00

spannermary well done on the sick free days. also my work went of me on first week of sickness and now starting my 5th so think your work have been very supportive.

feekerry would love some chocolate. bet you enjoying it.

terajola · 07/11/2011 22:17

All i can say is hyperemises is terrifying! I have had it 3 times. My last time had it for 4 months severe and in hospital on a drip for that time! I then started to be able to cope but still sick every day. Sick whilst giving berth but a very healthy 6lb baby girl arrived and it dissapeared like the click of your fingers! I have 2 gorgeous children, sadly was too poorly to go through with my middle pregnancy which made me determined on my third!

terajola · 07/11/2011 22:26

I was put on steroid drip but do warn this made me worse! I then spoke to a specialist and they tried me for the first time on a medication called Ondansatron an anti sickness drug used for cancer patients! I was the guinea pig as it was my last resort.... it helped by taking the edge right off and then i learnt that pickled beetroot took that awful metal taste out of my mouth, melons quenched my thirst (believe me i felt like i could drink a swimming pool) and tissue up each nostrel stopped the smell of car fumes a mile up the road!

LucindaE · 08/11/2011 11:31

Terjola Hello and my goodness Shock four months in hospital with the last?! That is the worst I have heard yet..That's interesting about melon, I knew of a woman on another site

Horsey I hope you feel a little better about things today? Work are being unmentionable, as others say.
Feekerry Wonderful news about weight gain Smile and chocolate, wow!
Spannermary I'm glad you have an understanding boss, anyway! Even one good day is a sign of turning the corner. I hope this continues.
Fuzzy Poor you, back in hospital? I hope you feel a little better today. It is so depressing for women when it goes on past fourteen weeks and the bump appearing.
Grandma Hello! I so agree about the 'beautiful'! I still haven't heard from Pregnancy Sickness Support, for sure they are taking a while to get it up and running, but I suppose it's a big endeavour. It's great anyway that it is on its way...
Apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
xx

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theonlyhb2 · 09/11/2011 16:04

just dropping in and sending good vibes to those of you suffering.

Horsey, your boss has made me so angry! what an absolute tit. I was on a small office so when I threw up at work, everyone heard and there was no doubt about it being real and worse than normal! Sod your boss, don't worry about money, you always end up being ok. it is a really stressful time. i ended up part time so lost quite a bit of wage at a time my OH wasnt really working either. it caused a lot of stress between us even though it wasn't a situation that could be helped and he spent all day looking after me as I needed it but still. Horrid. Can I suggest puking in a jiffy bag and sending it to his home ;)

horseynewmum · 09/11/2011 19:45

theonlyhb2 good idea but it mean sinking to their level and I really cant be arsed bothered but thanks anyway. This has shown everyones true colours and i'm best of without them in my life. At end of day they the ones that lost out. Metal note for next time to give 6 months notice before i fall pregnant so everyone in my life can be warned lol

LucindaE · 10/11/2011 13:55

TheOnly Lovely to hear from you, welcome back to the Pink Castle Smile what an idea about a bag of vomit. How are things? I hope what a MW called my 'Ahem, Underneath' is OK now? I'm glad everyone was sympathetic at work - that more than makes up for the embarrasement of everyone hearing you with your head downthe loo...
Horsey More cyber hugs to you. So agree that they have been foul at your workplace Angry.
I hope everyone is coping today?Smile - smiles about anxiously. Any more scans coming up?
Lucinda
xx

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smk84 · 10/11/2011 14:50

Hi all, not long to post, but just wanted to send some encouragement out to everyone suffering - at least we are not in it alone, and there is always the pink castle to look forward to ! I am almost 10 weeks now, so with being so early I have to keep thinking about the pink castle (and hoping I get to sit on the drawbridge sooner rather than later, cos I hate the thought of being in the moat for the next 30 weeks !!! Again big respect to all of you for whom it has continued the whole way through). Hugs to you Horsey.
I have been signed off work for 2 more weeks, luckily they are supportive.
Lots of Thanks to you all

MOH100 · 10/11/2011 15:52

just checking in to say hello, have been on holiday. Greetings and commiserations to newbies. Plus a quick plug for the website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. There is information and tips provided by users of this forum plus some research and info/tips on getting medication.

There is also a survey which you can fill in (if you're able to) to relate your experience of HG. This information will be used by Pregnancy Sickness Support to make a case that hyperemesis treatment in this country is patchy, often inadequate and needs attention brought to it.

On the other hand, if you have had good treatment, could you let me know via the Your Comments page as we would like to build up a list of doctors who will treat HG with sympathy and a serious attitude.

If anyone wants more info about anything on the site, feel free to pm me via mumsnet or via the your comments page.

hugs to all, even if the hyperemesis grinds you down don't let the b***ds.

caramellokoalalover · 10/11/2011 16:09

Hello everyone, sorry I've been away for a bit and not posted. Wanted to pop on while I have a sec with 2 monkeys sleeping at the same time (the holy grail) and see if Marylou has entered the pink castle? Good luck if you're still waiting!
feekery - a little girl, how lovely. Glad all was well with the scan. My DD was on the small side too at the 20wk scan but was 2.9kg when born so small, but not teenytiny small.
Welcome to the new people and sorry you're suffering. HG is a b**ch...and that's not beach Grin. Sorry, poor joke, I'm tired, forgive me!
theonly, am laughing at your jiffy bag suggestion! How's things?
cosmo good luck with the ttc, will be thinking of you.
Sorry to those I haven't mentioned, DS is awake...he must have sensed I was posting MN Smile xxx

Magnumwhite · 10/11/2011 19:25

Hi all,
just to say that i made it to the funeral and so glad that I did. also survived 2 2 1/2 hr car journeys which i wouldn't have been able to do 2 weeks ago.

Had 20 week scan last friday and all is ok :-)

Struggling with sleep though. DS had his 2nd MMR at 20months (recommended early in our area) 8 days ago and since then his sleep has just gone awol.

He fights going down for daytime naps and bedtime and wakes alot at night. Its like his brain won't shut off. But otherwise he's very well.
His great sleep and lunchtime nap had been the saving grace of this pukey pregnancy so far and now things are so much harder. I'm exhausted

I posted on a vaccinations thread about this problem but haven't had much response.......

love to everyone

horseynewmum · 10/11/2011 19:36

Magnumwhite Glad you managed to get to funeral and manage car journey. sorry to hear your not getting much sleep Brew

Been back to doctors blood pressure a little low. May explain the passing out on the toilet yeaterday. Blush

how is everyone else?

fleurelise · 11/11/2011 05:24

Hi All,

This is my first pregnancy (EDD 11.06.12) and I have been suffering with HG since week 6. I went to my GP at the start of week 7. By this point I was severely dehydrated and unable to keep water down. Thankfully he was sympathetic and prescribed cyclizine. I still vomit on the cyclizine, but it's an improvement ie. can now keep down at least one meal a day! Lost about a stone in total, but hoping to have stabilised a bit now. Dh is a godsend, although he didn't really get it at first - his sister-in-law has had 5 kids(!) with no complaints. Haven't told work yet - have luckily been able to work from home past three weeks but may have a new assignment soon.

So great to find you all, and it's refreshing how open and honest everyone is about this. I've not been feeling as positive as I'd hoped about being pregnant, and the idea of going through this again... Well. By the way I think I'm certain evidence that HG is genetic, mum had it (although only to 6 wks) and my sister had it all the way through her pregnancy.

Good Luck Everyone, you're an inspiring bunch of ladies.

LucindaE · 11/11/2011 11:48

Fleurlise Welcome, poor you, does the doctor know that you are still vomiting and losing weight on the cyclazine, might he consider changing the meds if so? One meal a day is a lot better than not even being able to keep down water, but it is so exhausting. I'm glad he was sympathetic, that makes all the difference; and having female relatives who know you're not making a fuss about nothing, as unfortunately so many still believe...Everyone's great on here for support and there's no such thing as TMI and feel free to moan if you wish. My own experience was years ago, but I haven't forgotten Shock.
Magnum Aagh! Re; such a long journey, and upsetting too. Just the sort of thing to make make the symptoms awful again. It must have been a comfort to you to attend and I'mglad you could. Hugs.
HorseyOh dear, about fainting on loo. How alarming. A lot of people seem to get low blood pressure with this, I suppose it makes sense.
SM Are things any better? I'm glad you got signed off for two more weeks, so you should...
Someone had good news about twenty week scan, and I can't read my dreadful handwriting about who it was, again. Congratulations, anyway, sorry about this...
Caramel Lovely to hear from y ou, does DS think; - 'Ah, I remember causing all that trouble, when I was inside?!'
MOH For sure that is a great website.
Wanders out of Pink Castle to look over moat, looking anxious. I hope everyone's doing OK today.
Lucinda
xx

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fleurelise · 11/11/2011 15:55

Thanks LucindaE - hubby thinks the same so am going back to the doc's on Monday - running a bit low on the cyclizine anyway. While it helps to have female relatives who've been through this - still feel quite alone. I live in Manchester and they live in London - not close enough to anyone up here to talk to about it so just me and him so far. Think that's been one of the worst parts about this so isolating. Can't do any of the usual activities that make me feel better like go to the gym or our somewhere nice in the evenings. And really not looking forward to the next seven months of this (if that's what's in store).

Anyway hopefully I'll get something stronger on Monday and be a bit more positive - should've gone today really but was up half the night! Hope everyone else is having an ok day.

horseynewmum · 11/11/2011 18:03

Welcome fleurelise. You will never been on your own here and everyone who is on here understands what your going thro and no your not making it up. Isolation is very much a part of HG and it is depressing. Welcome to moan all you like. (make a change from me)

Lucinda was quite scary thankfully bathroom is so small and compact that sink is practically on top of toilet so didnt go far. I think when you lay down all day and dont move often it would reduce your blood pressure.

Thinking about how many women on here that have suffered/suffering HG, and these are the ones that have spoken out. Yet HG is is not understood/expect by some 'outsider/non-suffers' is quite unbelievable, cause we all having a party aren't we LOL Shock

smk84 · 11/11/2011 18:46

Hi All, big hugs out to you all again.
Fleurelise welcome. You have been through so much already. I really hope your appointment with the doc helps. My due date is 080612, so really close to yours :)
Lucinda I have had a rough day today, but thankfully MIL has had DS so have been able to lie in bed all day. How are you now?
Horsey sorry to hear about your fainting. I wonder if anyone can do anything to help low blood pressure? My DH seems to think me being sick is linked to low BP (as I seem to be sick when I stand up). He is an engineer so not sure if that helps in analysing me Wink
MOH thanks for the link to the website I had a look at the meds info earlier which was really interesting (no-one has mentioned to me the first treatment we should be offered, but I have been prescribed cyclizine and stemetil).
Magnum that's great about your 20 week scan. I do hope your DC starts sleeping better.

horseynewmum · 11/11/2011 18:58

Smk84 sorry to hear you had a rough day. Hope you feeling bit better tonight? I do think if laying down alot then standing up does affect blood pressure but thats my view.

MOH100 · 11/11/2011 20:00

smk84 in this country, cyclizine is considered to be a first line drug and stemetil is not far behind so your medication regime is pretty standard. Ondansetron is not usually tried in the first instance, but it should be offered if cyclizine or stemetil don't control the vomiting.

Sometimes you find that something works for a while then stops being effective. My advice to anyone whose medication isn't working, or is becoming less effective, is to push for ondansetron. Sometimes it's difficult to tell if meds are really working, you might improve but still be struggling to eat and drink much and still be vomiting though not as much. I suppose it's up to you to decide how much you can suffer, but ondansetron can be so effective that it is actually possible to eat and drink almost normally and reduce the vomiting to little or nothing even in the first trimester. That's if it works for you, some women find that even ondansetron is not effective and may have to move up a notch to steroid therapy.

fleurelise · 11/11/2011 20:31

Thanks ladies - you are all going through it, yet managed to help me so much today despite feeling so grim I could barely answer the husband when he asked the usual 'how are you'. The sea bands I ordered arrived today so have put them on recently - anyone tried them? Evenings are usually the worst for me, so we'll see how tonight goes! Managed to keep some noodles down so far!

MOH I've been reading a lot about ordansetron online or Zofran, so many women seem to have found it was the answer for them, although did notice a lot of these seemed to be from the US? Will ask my doctor about it, although he was reluctant to prescribe the cyclizine, so not sure how this will go.

smk84 It's great to know someone else due so close! So glad your work are being supportive too, this is always a big concern particularly as so many people just don't seem to 'get' what it is.

Horsey I saw your post about feeling faint and can totally relate - I struggled to walk to the post box recently - literally felt I was going to pass out, although lack of food probs didn't help.

MOH100 · 11/11/2011 20:59

fleurelise if you look at the documents page of www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk there are some published treatment protocols from Canada and America which mention ondansetron. You could take them to your doctor, show you're serious and informed and it may help him to realise that it's not some scary drug but something that is used quite often. If your GP is unsure and wants to speak to someone who is more expert, refer him to Dr Roger Gadsby of Pregnancy Sickness Support www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk phone number 024 7638 2020. If he still won't prescribe you should ask for a referral to a consultant obstetrician. It's not acceptable for GPs to just block effective treatment because they're unsure about prescribing, they must refer you up if your case is out of the range of their expertise.

fleurelise · 12/11/2011 13:36

Thanks MOH I'm going to do exactly that. I'm sick of this - feels like I've been lying here forever just trying to keep the contents of my stomach down. If Ordansetron can help, at least that's hope.

I think sea bands have helped a little, not sure though.

marylou242 · 12/11/2011 16:34

Just a quick update to say I had Holly on 8 November. She weighed 8 pounds 9, so pretty big! I was induced as my waters went but there were no contractions. It was all fine though and with help of gas and air and tens, 7 hours later, she popped out. Fortunately quite an easy birth which I was hoping for. I'm struggling with feeding and massive boobs at the moment and lack of sleep of course but we're both doing well.

Thanks to everyone for helping me when HG arrived again and I got myself into a terrified state before getting my cyclizine prescribed. I really feel for anyone suffering at the moment and hope it will somehow have its profile raised soon, it's a shame a celebrity can't get it, not that I'd wish it on anyone...

Pearl I hope it happens for you soon! Does the pink castle supply Galaxy chocolate? I can't get enough of it at the moment.