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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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Cosmogirl · 27/10/2011 17:37

Hi all,

Vampire - yay for 3 meals a day. Must feel good to be able to get food down and keep it there.

Magnum - so sorry to hear of your Uncle's death. But as the others have said, try not to feel bad about not visiting him. You are fighting an illness too - although many people don't think it. It is always easy to criticise ourselves with the benefit of hindsight. Sorry things haven't been good recently with the other symptoms you've had. Big hugs x

MOP - woop for end being in sight! Really pleased your HG is soon to be a distant memory. Try not to overdo it though!

Laynie - you are very welcome here! We all know what you are going through so feel free to vent away.

Caramello - I had my consultant appt today and sad to report it didn't go very well. I was kept waiting for over an hour only to find that the consultant I was booked in to see wasn't even there. I ended up seeing a male consultant, who quite frankly, seemed devoid of emotion and didn't fill me with confidence. After trying for weeks and speaking to this lady's secretary I was well peeved when it turned out I wasn't even seeing her. My friend who used to be a mw at the hospital had recommended her as someone who had vast experience with treating HG patients. I ended up in floods of tears by the time I got into the appt with a male student Dr watching too, so felt like a right tit! Anyway, the long of short of it was that he said there's nothing he would do until I was pregnant. Come back to the clinic then and we can start treating any symptoms etc.. Wouldn't write me a protocol or anything. I asked about outpatient fluids and he said they didn't do them and I would have to be admitted for two days! As for anti emetics, he didn't rule out ondansetron but it sounds like they work up from the weak ones to that.

Feel very deflated and quite tired as I got very upset and emotional and it all, especially having to wait so long and we had DD 2.6 with us. I thought it would be good to have her with me to show them what I'd have to contend with while ill but instead she just shouted over everything so the appt was difficult and DH had to take her outside so missed most of it.

Not sure where we go from here. Part of me thinks we should just start trying, because if I don't do it now, I worry that the fear will just increase the longer I leave it and I may never do it.

Like you said Caramello, it might not be so bad next time, but I've always felt I wanted to prepare for the worst case scenario.

LucindaE · 27/10/2011 18:48

Hello, back from Buckinghamshire and mothers, distributing cyber hugs to any who want them...Fluffy and Caramel and MOHFeekerry theOnlyand other survivers have been wonderful, as always...
Helibee [hsad] this is awful, poor, poor you, nine litres of fluids, still being sickand expecting to go in last weekend, I suppose you are in hospital now, it is too bad, and a bleed scare on top of everything else. I do so feel for you.
You mustn't feel remotely guilty, you are suffering horribly and LO will soon forget all about this. It is interesting what Feekerry says about cyclizine and ondansetron, and Fluffy says about metroclopramide (sp) and ondensetorn.
I do so hope they find something that stops the sickness this time.
Laynie A belated welcome from me. This sounds awful, I so admire women who go for it despite the scourge, did it ease off at all after sixteen weeks in your previous pregnancies?
Cosmogirl Shock What a disappointment after you were hoping to get a plan in advance. I know some women have been lucky there, what bad luck the expert doctor was away, and I wonder what is the best thing to do from here? The blase specialist sounded annoying...
Magnum The paracetomol suppositories sound really interesting, I hadn't even heard of them...
Vampire Lovely to hear that you are eating properly...TheOnly A baby who sleeps eight hours at a stretch, how wonderful...Enjoy her!
Anyone I've rudely ignored Sorry, just got back, I hope all are coping.
Lucinda
xx

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feekerry · 27/10/2011 21:31

hello everyone. hows everyone doing??

i'm going to post a bit of non hg news... i have my 20 week scan on tuesday. is it a girl or is it a boy?? AGHH the wait is killing me. so nice to be mildly excited about something with this pregnancy!! i'll post on tues with the outcome!!!
xxx

oh- 20 weeks today and still sick. joy.

fluffywhitekittens · 27/10/2011 21:41

Cosmogirl sorry the meeting didn't go well. On the other hand if you do decide to try again you will at least be more prepared mentally and physically and can get yourself to a dr or hospital as soon as you start being I'll. Although obviously I have everything crossed for you that you don't get it again.
Welcome back Lucinda, your pm about not being allowed on the computer gave me a little chuckle :)

caramellokoalalover · 28/10/2011 09:55

Welcome back Lucinda, hope you had a lovely time away!

theonly, so glad to hear you're getting some longer stretches of sleep. Hooray to that. And try not to feel guilt for the formula. It's not poison afterall. I know it's hard not to beat yourself up over it though, I'm guilty of the same. Hope the lottery ticket is a winning one Grin.

My god magnum, you poor thing, sounds awful all round, illness and bereavement to deal with as well as HG. Big hugs.

MOP the end is def in sight now. The pink castle awaits, we will make sure the larder is fully stocked for your arrival Smile

cosmo try not to get too disheartened by the awful appt with the cons. Sad You can find another who will be more sympathetic. Maybe try and get together a list of GPs in your area and when you've got your BFP you can start visiting them all until you find one willing to take HG seriously? Oh and, at the risk of sounding very repititious and boring, can you afford acupuncture? Early and aggressive treatments helped me massively. That, combined with the ondansetron, meant no hospital stays for me at all for preg no 2. A massive relief when you have another DC to think of.

Have to run, potty training DS1...eek, but back soon, much gentle back rubbing for you all, and those in the pink castle, time to think about getting the Wine and Brew in for friday night drinks, no? Grin

horseynewmum · 28/10/2011 15:30

Want to say thank you for this thread. I'm now 10 weeks into my first pregnancy and I have been suffering badly with sickness. To date I've had two hospital admisions due to dehydration due to unable to rehydrate myself. This thread and the information has been a god send and made me feel like I'm not on my own and suffering. I'm now reducing to vomiting 3-5 times a day now but still unable to perform normal task. Getting a drink knocks me out for 30min or so.
Thank you again

MotherofPearl · 28/10/2011 17:10

Just popping on quickly to say welcome back to Lucinda :)
Sorry Cosmo to hear about the feeble response from the consultant re planning for an HG pregnancy. I guess even if they're not prepared to put a plan in place, you are very well-informed and prepared yourself, which is something at least.
Feekerry, good luck for the scan and let us know the outcome asap!
Thanks Caramel, I can't wait to tuck into pink castle goodies!
And finally, before I dash off to get DD from nursery, welcome to horsey. Really sorry to hear you've been suffering so badly but glad to hear that the thread has been a help. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that the thread is probably the only thing that has kept me even halfway sane these last 8 months. Everyone is so kind and it does really help to know that there are other people who understand. So do stick around :)

horseynewmum · 28/10/2011 17:41

Thank you mother for the welcome. Its nice to hear that everyone is supportive here and that i'm not in words of my boss at work making a mountain out of a mole hill. I will stick around and looking at other threads:)

LucindaE · 28/10/2011 19:12

Horseynewmum Welcome, nice to meet you, though not in the happiest circumstances. I am so glad the thread has helped, two admissions already, oh dear. That boss sounds awful! [anger] I do hope things start to ease with you after fourteen weeks as they do for lucky people. Feel free to moan all you like, that is what this thread is for.
Cosmo Good advice from Caramel and Fluffy about the unsympathetic consultant situation.
Feekerry Good luck for scan, I'm sure you won't need it, how exciting!
I do so agree withCaramel about acupunture, it certainly helped me,but I am loath to recommend it because it seems to vary so in its affect (always forget if its affect or effect) on different women.
Magnum I somehow missed that bit about your uncle, poor you, and you mustn't in any way feel guilty, how could you help being too ill to visit?
Pearl Waves madly. Not long now...Are you still suffering from bile runs, I do hope not?
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 28/10/2011 19:14

Second half of post. Laynee How are things and Helibee thinking of you, hoping you're not stuck in hospital this minute.
Lucinda
xx

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smk84 · 28/10/2011 20:57

Hi all, I was recommended to this thread by someone on a post I made. Not sure I belong here as don't think have HG, but have had awful N&V for the last 2.5 weeks and it's really been getting me down. Experimenting with meds at the moment so hoping to lurk here from time to time for encouragement and tips. Am 8 weeks PG with DC2. Big respect to all of you (have only had time to read some of your stories), and thank you to OP.

HeftyMutha · 28/10/2011 21:20

HeftyMutha reporting from the Pink Castle. Theo Samuel was born on the 25th after a mercifully brief and straightforward labour. The sicky feeling took a couple of hours to disappear, but when it went away I felt sane and normal for the first time in 9 months.

Childbirth, sleep deprivation and shredded nipples are a piece of piss compared to having N&V or HG in pregnancy, so anyone on this thread feeling guilty about having a moan -DON'T. You are all heroes!

Thank you LucindaE and others for all the support. I hope that I can find the time to post supportive messages from the pink castle. Xx

fluffywhitekittens · 28/10/2011 21:33

HeftyMutha hurrah for you! Have a fluffy cushion and some chocolate cake :)
I love hearing when all these lovely babies arrive after having made life so miserable for months.

Welcome Smk84 and horseynewmum, sorry you have to join us. Is there any chance you could point your boss in the direction of some of the websites linked here or just the first post on this thread?

I was at a birthday/halloween party today and was chatting to someone I hadn't seen for a while who as asking about ds as she'd seen me pushing the pram around. When I said there was a big age gap due to being so sick with dd she said "did you have hyperemesis? " she suffered with her third dc but not the previous two and that was partly her deduction not to have another. So nice to meet someone in RL who gets it :)

Cosmogirl · 29/10/2011 09:38

Hefty - huge congrats! I completely agree with you - I would have taken childbirth over my first pregnancy any day. Hope you continue to enjoy feeling amazing.

Thanks for everyone for the advice re my appt. We've decided to feel the fear and do it anyway. After all, it might take a long time to conceive this time - there's just no way of knowing, so here goes, best or most idiotic decision I'll ever make I suppose! I'm so grateful to have found you all though, so I will have some support here if it all goes HG shaped again.

Magnumwhite · 29/10/2011 10:09

HeftyMutha congratulations and well done! Beautiful names. Must be such a relief to have got to the end. is this DC1?

Cosmo I'm so sorry about your appointment - I was really hoping it would have gone as well as mine did. Is there anyway you can write directly to the consultant you were recommended to? I would echo recommendation for being a kind to yourself as possible before/while ttc - get lots of rest and exercise, eat and hydrate well. I second acupuncture - even though life is tough at the moment, the first 8 weeks were so much better this time than with DS

Thanks for all your support this week - you are all so lovely and understanding. I've felt so grim and really like I'm taking steps backwards. Ds has had diarrhoea there have been some horrible moments doing nappies whilst I crawl around the floor retching. Ds is such a sensitive little boy - he gets so upset when i retch and on thurs when I was crying after the news about Uncle. We have spent the last 3 days cuddled up together watching a Winnie the Pooh on repeat!
Chest pain and infection is improving but I'm not coping well taking Augmentin - there's no way I'll manage to do it for a week. I'd been feeling so much better 2 weeks ago and was even wondering if I might manage to get to a place of not feeling nauseaus at all but now I'm 18+5 I fear that its here again for the duration of the pregnancy.....
Really really want to be well enough to make the funeral.

LucindaE · 29/10/2011 10:24

Firstly, HeftyMutha hugs, congratulations, so glad it was an easy delivery, it's the least you deserve [grinGrinThanksWine. As Fluffy says, this is the bit I love, when the women come on with the happy news.
SMWelcome to the thread. At least there's no tmi here and everyone knows you're not whining about nothing. Poor you, don't assume it isn't Hyperemesis,it seems to vary in severity. Are you retaining enough liquids? Have you got kesosticks to make sure you aren't dehydrated (available from chemists)? It's always well to check. It is dismal when it is early, I hope you are lucky and it goes off at the end of the first tri. How are you doing with regard to keeping any solids down at all?
Horseynewmum and Laynee how are you today?
Feekerry I do hope you are one of those who still get some relief after the twenty weeks...
Fluffy Apropos pc, I don't blame anyone being scared of letting me near one with my track record Shock I once spilled a drink on one at my old work, didn't admit to it, it made a squeaking noise for about ten minutes, then seemed to recover...
Caramel I am so sorry about the recipe (don't want to make people sick so wn't go into details) mother said, 'Here we are' and gave me a book which I only found out when I got home had only general information about 'country recipies' (that doesn't look right, my dyslexia is bad today!)as distinct from 'country matters'!
Magnum How are things? Pearl Everyone? Butterfly Helibee
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 29/10/2011 10:36

Second part of post! Magnum Things sound awful, I am so sorry, I do hope you can make the funeral, but as I believe that people we have cared for are always with us, if you don't manage that formal goodbye, you'll sense his being around you anyway. It's awful that the medication makes you feel so bad - crawling around retching sounds dreadful. Can only send you gentle cyber pats.
It's too bad.
Lucinda
xx

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misdee · 29/10/2011 12:28

well done on keeping these threads going.

i am expecting #6 and so far so good. just normal orning sickness, and thats it! the last three weeks have been bliss, am now 15weeks+ and am hopeful the worst has past!

LucindaE · 29/10/2011 12:31

Caramel

Thanks so much for doing yet more support on thread while I was away!
I am so sorry about jam, my mother said 'Here you are' when I asked, and when I opened it, the book she had given me was one of general country recipes and mentioned only, say, the proportions of jam making,etc, no detailed recipes or instructions...
Hope LO's will enjoy Haloween? Babies can be frightened by the masks, of course.

Lucidna/Jessica

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LucindaE · 29/10/2011 12:33

You can see why my mother feared my approaching her pc, that was meant to be a private message!
MissDee Congratualtions! How brave of you. I remember you well. I do hope you escape the scourge, but if not, feel free to moan ad infinitum...
Lucinda
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smk84 · 29/10/2011 17:49

Thank you for welcoming me. I haven't been doing too bad with fluids but I have been vomiting much larger volumes the last couple of days. My MW checked my urine on Thu and was ok then, but will def get some. Need to try to find a prenancy vitamin with no iron too, as i reckon it's adding to evening misery (only discovered it could yesterday, just after I had taken it !!).

spannermary · 29/10/2011 18:47

Evening, all. Sorry I've been quiet for a while. Good to hear some happy news - but also sorry to hear the tough times people have been going through.

Well, as for me, we made it to our friends in the Netherlands. I was very sick after the drive to the airport, but the train and plane were ok, and my DH spoke to the air crew and I was given special treatment both ways. Seeing my friends did give me a great boost and the change of scenery back here was a tonic.

Back home I was feeling ok but after a tyre blew on the way to my parents on Wednesday, I've nose dived. The petrol fumes from standing by the hard shoulder made me very sick - and I've been sick like before ever since. Today I've been feeling very depressed about the whole thing and couldn't stop crying. DH doesn't understand tears so, even though he's trying his best, and is wonderful, I feel very alone.

17 weeks tomorrow - will it ever end?
Sorry to be so blue. Tough day.

MotherofPearl · 29/10/2011 19:04

Oh dear spannermary, so sorry to hear that you're feeling so low but quite understandable. Really hope that you start to have some betters days again. It's awful how isolating this condition is.
On a more cheerful note, congrats to Hefty, so glad to hear you had a quick and uncomplicated labour, and are already feeling normal! Enjoy every second of the pink castle!
I'm feeling a bit grumpy I'm afraid. Took DD to the park with a friend of mine who doesn't have children (although that shouldn't really make a difference to this story!). She was telling me about her mother being ill with flu, described how miserable and housebound her mother's feeling. When I said how much I sympathised she said, 'Well, and you're not even ill, you're just pregnant.' Angry I had to strongly resist the urge to sock her one I'm afraid to say!
Hope everyone having OK weekend. :)

horseynewmum · 29/10/2011 19:35

Hi all not too bad today more tired then anything. Got a thing for wheetabix at the moment so living of that. Its been a week since my last hospital trip and i'm managing to keep most things down and all fluids which is good.
hefty congrats and I bet labour was a breeze compared to months of HG.

LucindaE · 30/10/2011 17:46

Spannermary Sorry you had such an awful time, I know just what you mean about petrol fumes when you feel sick. It could have been the stress, too, hopefully it will recede a bit soon. I do hope you get some relief soon - some people suffer well after fourteen weeks, right up until twenty weeks or more, and then it gets better, so here's hoping. Hugs to you, who wouldn't feel discouraged? But it will be worth it, and more...
Horsey Glad about the Wheetabix!
SM Sounds nasty, so do keep testing yourself and do keep posting. It is so horrible. Do you find flat coke any good or jelly or ice lollies? I know everything reappears, but some take longer, which gives your body time to take in some...
[hsad]
Pearl You are always so lovely and encouraging to everyone else, how are you today?
I hope everyone is coping today. I have to totter back to bed with a migraine, but that is as nothing to what you sufferers are going through. It'll be gone tommorow.
Lucinda
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