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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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horseynewmum · 10/02/2012 12:40

HI all. Oh dont get me started on ginger. I mean tbh if it really worked for sickness it be more expensive and plus I would never off been so sick. I cant stand ginger now and the smell (like most things) makes me sick. Oh and it finishes at 12 weeks is another one that gets to me. Do people really think people like us are enjoying it? Oh the narrow minded people of the world.

I've been told by my employer not entitled to SMP so going to have to fill out for MA but do it when brain is functioning correctly. Its annoyed me a bit as its like I'm being penilised for being ill while pregnant which I can ensure you i've not been enjoying which all you ladies understand. Bloody goverment award the idle and penilise the ill, elderly and carers (which I included mums in). enough of my rant better collect the 32 pages from printer then lay on the floor for bit of back relief.

Hope everyone else is ploughing through ok?

theonlyhb2 · 10/02/2012 18:38

sound like you have a banging Friday night planned, Horsey! ;)

fluffywhitekittens · 11/02/2012 08:57

Haven't read everything as marking my place, realised I haven't been over here for a while.
Hope everyone's doing ok

LucindaE · 11/02/2012 10:04

Horsey These forms seem to have been designed to be as difficult to fill in as possible, even when one is in normal health Angry. Quite so about the ginger, if only things were so simple, and if one suffered horribly it was only because one had never thought of a ginger biscuit first thing!
Fluffy still Blush about sending you three Christmas messages!
I must get round to reading MOH's survey, I wonder if I am correct in suspecting that while there is a huge way to go in Hyperemesis being generally understood to be a severe illness, now GP's seem less inclined to let women suffer without medication until they are hospitalised, as was still happening a year ago? NitNat at Christmas 2010 last was vomiting 'coffee grounds' and we were all horrified on this thread and advised her to go to emergency, before she was finally prescribed meds. What's people's experience? That was a second Hyperemesis pregnancy, too...
I hope everyone is coping, at least warm if nauseated or worse.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 13/02/2012 09:29

All Quiet on the Hyperemesis Front? Hmm
Lucinda
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NeedlesCuties · 13/02/2012 10:30

Hi, don't think I've posted here, but have been lurking.

I'm suffering with HG this pregnancy (DC2) am 13 weeks now. Was admitted to hospital for 2 days back at around 9+5 weeks and had all the usual faffing with fluid drips, anti-sickness injections etc.

Have been taking Cyclizine (an anti-emetic) since I came out of hospital and they have helped me to not throw up, although I still get constant nausea. But, in the past few days the Cyclizine has seemed to be less effective and I've been sick the past two days :( Am really scared of it stopping working as I sort of relying on the meds to make me feel 'normal'!

I didn't have any sickness at all when pregnant with DS (he's now 2 years old) and I'm still reeling with how I'm feeling this time round and how different it is!

Just wanted a moan and knew you ladies would understand!

LucindaE · 13/02/2012 18:28

Needles Welcome. Sorry meds are stopping working, if it isn't that horrible virus that's been going the rounds then it might unfortunatly mean that you will have to summon up the strength to go to the GP and ask for different meds. The meds expert is MOH but I know there's a variety, and many women press for Ondansetron as the best (I was on alternative meds myself). It must be a shock if you had such a different pregnancy last time, sympathies. Perhaps with luck you might be one of the ones it tails off for round the fourteen week mark. Do keep checking with Kesosticks to make sure you aren't getting dehydrated, but I expect you know all about that, and sipping liquids or sucking ice cubes or ice lollies even though it seems that its all coming straight back up because some gets through.
Lucinda
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NeedlesCuties · 13/02/2012 19:01

Ice-lollies have helped a lot :) In the early days of my pregnancy when sickness was around 4 times a day the biggest culprit was actually plain water! I found that really strange. If I put some dilute juice in it or drank fruit juice I wasn't sick nearly as quickly or as often as if I drank plain water.

My husband is a GP, not actually my GP, but he's great for advice and for having kesosticks in the house that I can use. He was really great at spotting when I had to go into hospital as it happened late at night and it meant I didn't have to faff around ringing the on-call doctor out of hours.

At the end of the day I'm just glad this isn't my first pregnancy, feel that emotionally I wouldn't have coped as well first time round.

LucindaE · 14/02/2012 08:02

Needles It's wonderful that you have an in house GP! Smile I expect he can get you the necessary if required.
Lucinda
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0FrillyKnickers0 · 14/02/2012 09:42

Wow. I cried when I saw this group. Thank you so much to whoever started it, I hug you.

I am 12 weeks today and was diagnosed with hyperemesis 2 weeks ago and it is horrendous. I am on anti-sickness pills and have been signed off work for 4 weeks (I'm 2 weeks in). The slightest thing can set me off (this morning it's my husband's night old garlic breath) and even though I take my tablets I still find I'm being sick each day.

This is the most miserable thing I've been through and I just wanted to know I'm not the only one!

I have my scan a week on Thursday and I am so keen to know the baby is ok!

meebles · 14/02/2012 11:27

Hello 0FrillyKnickers0, welcome to the group - it is lovely to think we're not alone in this, even when everyone else around is having perfect pregnancies with 'just a little heartburn' and so on. It's miserable but I am just hanging onto the fact that it will go away eventually (I know this as it is my second pregnancy). Being signed off work really helps. I struggle with this at the start as I felt like such a wuss, but it's the only way that I have coped - I also had to give up on housework, childcare etc for a bit.

Needles I have tried stemetil, cyclizine, domperidone, metoclopromide and ondansetron at various times - the latter is the best (especially IV in hospital!) and now I just feel nauseus all the time, but not vomiting, and can keep hydrated ok. I love icelollies too, my in-laws have a stack in their freezer for when I come over!

0FrillyKnickers0 · 14/02/2012 11:34

Hi Meebles! I know what you mean about feeling like a wuss!! I felt the same. Went back to draft yesterday and she signed me off for another 2 weeks.

One positive, at least I've not gained loads of weight! Actually, I've lost a stone so far. I think I'll be gaining soon though.

I'm on metaclopromide at the moment but the hospital prescribed me two others. I'm waiting to see if this one keeps working or not before I take them. To be honest, I am scared for the baby because the others are stronger...but, if this stops working I'll take them.

Mental note: must get ice lollies.

NeedlesCuties · 14/02/2012 14:32

Frilly I remember you from the August 2012 thread! Am sending you a Brew hope it doesn't make you sick!
You say you haven't gained weight and I am Envy. Despite boaking my stomach up a lot during this pregnancy I have put on more weight than I had by this stage during DS's pregnancy :( I think it's because the only thing I can stomach is croissants and cereal! Carbs city!

meebles thanks for the list of meds, must mention it to my midwife or GP next time I see them. When I was in hospital with hyperemesis the only thing I got was 4 fluid drips to rehydrate me and one filled with vitamins. I got an injection of cyclizine, which is when they decided I should get a script of cyclizine when I was discharged. I haven't been sick today! Woo!

MOH100 · 14/02/2012 14:33

needles welcome and as lucinda says, how fantastic to have a doctor in the house. I don't know if you've already found the PSS site www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk. There's a section for healthcare professionals that your husband might find interesting. I agree with meebles too, ondansetron is the best. It didn't remove the nausea but it made it a lot better, it really got on top of the vomiting and I could eat and drink.

frillyknickers welcome too. I had my sisters to moan to when I was pregnant, we all had HG, but I can imagine how miserable it would be to feel alone on top of having this bloody awful illness. It's really fantastic that you've been given prescriptions for meds, some women have to really struggle to get treatment. It is worrying to have to take drugs in pregnancy but all the evidence that's available suggests that there are no adverse effects on the baby from taking any of the antiemetics that are prescribed for HG and that it's better for the baby to take the meds than to lose too much weight and become dehydrated. I think everyone feels like a total slacker taking time off work, but when you think about it, you have this totally devastating illness that makes it hard to even get out of bed, you wouldn't expect your colleague to come in if they were that ill. Sometimes you get the 'you're not ill you're pregnant' bulls**t' but you have to just ignore these idiots, hard though it is when you already feel so low. You can always moan to us even when nobody else understands. Smile

NeedlesCuties · 14/02/2012 14:48

MOH I will point DH in the direction of that site. I think me having HG will be good as he can be more sympathetic to his patients having seen me be so ill at home.

Wow, it's amazing that you and also your sisters all had HG :( My sister hasn't been pregnant, but my mum suffered HG when pregnant with me.

0FrillyKnickers0 · 14/02/2012 16:09

Thanks everyone :) MOH, it must be nice that your sisters understand. My family are really sympathetic and they seem to understand which is nice.

Needles, I recognise your name from the August group too! I stopped coming on MN because I was freaking out in the early days and was convinced something was going to go wrong. People's horror stories weren't helping!!

I have felt really down today. Just want to cry really. I am feeling particularly sick and I am fed up of my bed and my house. I feel tired but can't sleep because nextdoor's dogs are being noisy. Grumble grumble. I just can't see an end to this bloody thing today. I know there is but it seems too far off to make a difference. Still, 12 weeks today, so I'm a third of the way there! Grin

MOH100 · 14/02/2012 20:37

needles my mum had it too, with all of us, 4 girls and one boy, I've no idea how she did it so often. My extended family all understand too because they saw my mum go through it and my aunts looked after her - and the children when she was pregnant with the next one. Funnily enough my mum's two sisters didn't get it, one had normal morning sickness and the other had nothing at all!! Now me and my two older sisters have had it with every single pregnancy, my little sister hasn't been pregnant but I really don't like her odds of not getting it too and my brother counts his lucky stars he's a boy!

knickers sympathies with the low thoughts, it is so depressing being reduced to lying in bed looking at the same four walls. It's good that your family are sympathetic but sometimes there's nothing like being able to talk to people that know exactly how it feels, my sisters were a real comfort in that regard - not that you'd wish it on your sister just to have someone to empathise with you, but it was good to have someone to moan to on the phone.

Magnumwhite · 14/02/2012 22:12

hello Needles and Knickers and welcome. sorry you are going through this grimness....I can remember how bleak things seemed in the early weeks.

34 weeks here now and i finally feel the best i have since the start of this pregnancy.

My mum also had HG with me though not so bad with my bro. I feel bad knowing that this time I'm having a girl and that one day she might have to go through it too :(

DH is also a GP and has been great through both pregnancies. Both of us absolutely definite about there not being a 3rd DC!

love to everyone

0FrillyKnickers0 · 15/02/2012 08:45

Thanks MOH and hi Magnum.

Tell me, do you ever get used to feeling sick all the time? I had one mouthful of dinner last night and had to run to the loo to be sick. I know what you mean about not wanting a DC3 Magnum, this is my first and I can't face the thought of going through this again! But, like my mum said, it will be worth it in the end.

Sorry to moan....again!

MOH100 · 15/02/2012 09:39

magnum Glad to hear you're feeling better, tho it was a long time coming. know what you mean about feeling bad about daughter having to go through it too. Between me and my sisters we have 4 girls and only one boy - it's so frustrating I keep thinking why couldn't we have had boys and knock this HG gene on the head. That's partly why I'm trying to do awareness raising stuff online and with PSS, in the desperate hope that by the time they're having babies there will be decent treatments that you don't have to get on your knees and beg for. Maybe by then you'll be able to grow babies in incubators, wouldn't that be great! Or the men can have them ha ha! then we'd get proper treatments if they got hyperemesis!

knickers the nausea just wears you down doesn't it. I'm afraid I never got used to it, but I was lucky enough that ondansetron worked well for me so it took the edge off it and helped me to eat - and having a slightly full stomach can help keep the nausea down. It's such a weird condition isn't it, you feel sick so you can't eat but not eating makes you feel even more sick. Mother nature played a cruel trick inventing this illness. and don't worry about moaning, that's what this thread's for. Smile

0FrillyKnickers0 · 15/02/2012 09:48

That's totally it MOH! It's a bugger. All I can eat is white toast with butter and honey and all I can drink is fizzy water with juice. I can't even drink plain water! It's mad!

Well, not long till my scan (week tomorrow) and today is the first day I am really excited about it! Hoorah!

One thing i am nervous about is this: Like I may have said, the Dr signed me off work for 2 weeks, I went back for a follow up appointment on Monday as was due back at work yesterday and got signed off for another 2 weeks. Does anyone know how long you can be signed off until statutory sick pay kicks in? I have a feeling that it can't be that long and that Stat Sick Pay is rather shite. I am worried that if this thing hangs around and I get signed off again, I will suffer a bit financially!

What's the longest you all have been signed off and did you get Stat Sick Pay?

MOH100 · 15/02/2012 10:01

I'm not an expert on sick pay, I was signed off for about two months, but not continuously, I kept trying to go back so I'd make it for a few days then go off sick again. My employers were great though, I was working in NHS at the time and they just kept paying me my normal salary throughout. DH was in the same department so there was no nonsense about not being believed that I was really ill, and the departmental secretary was brilliant, she made sure finance kept paying me. I'm sure there are others out there who've got sick pay stories, I don't really know the rules, sorry.

0FrillyKnickers0 · 15/02/2012 10:35

No worries. I am fortunate that I work for my dad (it's far from easy but he has been so sympathetic and understanding)...he will be able to explain it all to me. I just hope i will be well enough to go back after this 2 weeks is up. Hey ho. Like people keep saying, my health and the baby's health is most important.

MotherofPearl · 15/02/2012 11:23

Just checking in quickly to say hi and welcome to Needles and Knickers. Sorry to hear you're suffering but glad that you have access to meds.

Knickers, try not to worry about the effect of the meds on the baby. As MOH says, it's better than getting yourself totally dehydrated and malnourished. I took cyclizine from week 7 right through until week 41 (yup, I went 10 days overdue and was still throwing up once a day right up until the day before DS was born!), and in spite of all that I gave birth to a very healthy 9lb 4oz boy, who has had no health problems and seems very contented. I think knowing what I know now, I should have pushed for ondansetron because I was still sick once or twice every day on cyclizine.

It is really the most debilitating and depressing condition there is, so you have all my sympathy. Try not to be hard on yourself about work - as you'll have already discovered, apart from the meds the only thing that helps at all is lots of rest. Hang in there and remember that it will be over eventually, and you will go back to normal :) Meanwhile, stick around here on this thread - it was pretty much the only thing that kept my will to live going while I was PG!

LucindaE · 15/02/2012 12:08

Hello, Everyone some trouble getting on PC so I've missed a few posts yesterday.
Frilly Knickers Welcome. It's awful that you were feeling so isolated with this dreadful illness. Poor you, that grinding nausea is very hard to bear. Oh dear, I have made many jokes about wetting my own (non frilly) knickers when puking when I was suffering. It is odd how what you can stomach - after a fashion - is so individual. With me it was sips of full sugar coke and nibbles of plain crisps. Plain water as ice cubes or sips of water was sometimes OK, though.
Needles hugs, how are things today?
MOH great advice as always,
MOP lovely to hear from you, I hope you are feeling fine in the famous Pink Castle.
Meebles How are you doing, now!
MagnumI am so glad that you are a bit better, though that is relative! How is the - dare I say it - eating- and weight?
Sorry to anyone I rudely have ignored.
Lucinda
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