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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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ArtyJennie · 15/02/2012 12:40

Hi all, I'm new here but have been lurking for a while.
I'm 13weeks preg with my 2nd DC. Im sat on the sofa with dd (who's 4) watching peppa Pig. My doc signed me off work today for 2weeks with HG. I'd already been off work (on and off) for several weeks. I feel a bit less guilty now it's official- its hard to explain to people that u are off for 'mere morning sickness'- their words.

I'm on stemitil though tbh I'm not sure if it works. I'm too scared to stop taking it in case I get worse! I'm vomiting approx twice a day now-I find I spew more when I'm due to take the next pill.

I'm so fed up with my bland diet but I can't face much. Bread/toast/porridge/crisps/bagels are about all I can take. I'm also v bored as I can't really go out without fear of spew- besides which I have no energy.

Sorry to moan on my 1st post. I was vomiting for 20 weeks with dd1 so possibly another 7 weeks of this :( it feels like a v long time when each day is nausea hell.

People often say 'just u wait till the baby comes- its really tough' Well I think that's the easy bit! :)

NeedlesCuties · 15/02/2012 15:43

Jennie you're also on the same August thread as Frilly and I! 3 of us all suffering from HG :(

I'm sitting here typing one handed eating an ice-lolly :) is keeping the sick feeling at bay.

Lucinda I'm ok, haven't vomited since Monday but have some sort of UTI which is sore.

Hope everyone else is ok as can be.

ArtyJennie · 15/02/2012 21:25

Hiya needles, sorry to hear u are here but good to see a familiar name,

Just had a real projectile moment, caught it in my hand/mouth and ran to the loo- all splashing back at me and in my hair- yuk yuk yuk!!

The monster munch where not- as it turns out- a good idea. I can't get the taste out if my mouth now :(

Just off to bed (late for me) but sleep is always hard as the nausea drives me insane! Being asleep is the best but of my day at the mo though as I'm escaping from it all!

Sleep well all- if you can. Night night. X

FlirtyThirty · 16/02/2012 10:43

Hello ladies...can i join...
I am so utterly depressed...
I'm 7+4 with my second child.
I have a lovely 2.7yr old son and am suffering chronic nausea/vomiting/headaches all day, everyday.
I am utterly exhausted and depressed and cannot imaging this lasting another 9 weeks.
I want to hibernate.
I can't eat anything really and even drinking makes me sick...I am very conscious of dehydration and not sure how to make things better. Nothing works.
I haven't told anyone I'm pregnant yet and so have no support, bar my Dh but he's out at work all day til late.
I am barely coping.
I can't even face leaving the house to go to GP.

I know noone can do anything...I just wanted to write it all down.

God this is awful...

Flirty x

ArtyJennie · 16/02/2012 11:10

Hi flirty, sorry to hear u are having such a hard time. It's just poo isn't it! I know how u feel about not wanting to face another X weeks- I feel like that each morning when I wake "oh no, not again" is my 1st thought when I feel that nauseous wave.

Have u considered phoning your GP- perhaps explaining that coming in to the surgery isnt an easy option for you. Medication has helped me a little bit- taken the edge off and allowed me to keep down some food.

I struggle with drinking too. Water makes me heave- though oddly I can gulp it when I wake in the night.

My dd is 4 and has a bad tummy bug at the mo. dh has got it now, I'm really hoping I don't get it too- I'm not sure I'll cope!

X

LucindaE · 16/02/2012 12:13

Flirty Welcome, so sorry things are so dismal now. I don't know if the mantra 'This Too Shall Pass' which the wise man in the Eastern story said to the King as a thing to keep in mind during the worst (and also the best!) times is of any help? It will pass, it has to,and only very unlucky women have it as badly throughout as they do in the beginning, for most it becomes a lot more bearable sometime between weeks fourteen-twenty (week twelve for the very lucky people), but time is so slow. Any number of women come back on this thread to say how it was worth it, though when things were at their worst they felt like hitting anyone who said that!
Are sips of flat coke any good (full sugar)? Or iced lollies or iced cubes of flat coke? Some find much diluted apple juice or orange squash good. It is a nightmarish thing and terribly isolating.
I honestly don't know how women with a toddler cope.
Jenny This is certainly the last place you expected to meet up! Oh, dear...
How are things today?
There is a nasty stomach bug going about, Needles might have had it.
How are things today, Needles? A UTI feels like just about the last straw, unfortunately difficult to avoid when you are just about keeping hydrated.
Frilly I wish I knew more about sick pay and so on. Try not to make yourself feel stressed about being off too much, as that seems to make the symptoms worse. Easy for me to say, I know, with my jolly experience years ago.
Back shortly.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 16/02/2012 12:18

Flirty I wanted to add, make sure you get some Kesosticks in (available in chemists) to check for dehydration. I had violent headaches, too, which I now know were dehydration
headaches though no doubt the hormonal changes made them worse.
Cyber hugs to Everyone who feels in need of one.
Lucinda
xx

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FlirtyThirty · 16/02/2012 12:45

Thanks you Lucinda and Jennie for replying...really kind.

I have not tried coke yet...or ice lollies...will see if I can face a trip to the shop by the weekend...just not up to it today. I will see about the kesosticks too.

Isolating is a very good description...but then if I were completely isolated that would be better in some ways....I just want to disappear. I am so miserable.

I have no energy and am being a pretty crap mother...we haven't left the house in days and I have the Tv on all the time to try and distract my lovely 2 year old from the fact that we aren't actually doing anything. I keep reassuring him that when I feel better, we'll do lots of fun stuff again, and I know it's only a few months and won't kill him...but I still feel pretty sh!t about it.

Flirty x

meebles · 16/02/2012 12:45

Welcome Flirty and Jennie.
It's really hard with having other DC isn't it? As well as feeling crap, I feel guilty for leaving DD to DH's struggles...They do seem to be remarkably resilient though, DD comes and pats me on the back when I'm throwing up and is delighting in watching far too much tv while I nap on the sofa. Grandparents and friends have really helped - I hope you have some similar support to allow you to get some rest?

Flirty, do try to see/talk to the GP - our surgery offers phone calls with the duty doctor once you've talked with the triage nurse. Or, have you got a good friend that could give you a lift? Telling someone gives you someone to moan to as well! Ice lollies are good, but not really sufficient. Being dehydrated makes it worse, it's possible some meds may help to control it all sufficiently to get some more fluids into you, and then it seems a little easier to cope with. I definitely had a few weepy days. If you have headaches you may be quite dehydrated - are you peeing okay? If your urine output is less than normal, concentrated/darker in colour, then that is quite significant as a late indicator of dehydration, and hospital admission may be indicated. I do hope you feel better!

Jennie There are so many things that I can't face eating now having vomited them in this pregnancy or the last one...

Knickers I'm not sure about sick pay - I'm NHS and have been signed off for almost 2 months now. I have had my normal salary for Jan. I should find out really if I'm going to stay off any longer. I'm not sure I could go back though, even if any sick pay vanishes.

Lucinda Feeling better thanks, very nauseus especially if I do too much, but the meds are (touch wood) keeping the vomiting at bay. I tend to go to sleep in the afternoons when it's worse. This pregnancy does seem endless though! I had a cuddle with my friend's youngest DC yesterday to remind me what this is all about and that's keeping me going today.

horseynewmum · 16/02/2012 12:56

Hi to all new people sorry to meet you here but god this page has been my life line and I mean my life line.

Nursery slowly getting there. just been sorting out mine and DH old teddies to have in there. Nearly got all clothes and bedding so getting there. My DH wants things ready incase I go into labour early so he don't have to worry about it. (I still got 13 weeks to go LOL)

I'm having trouble sleeping. Once I'm asleep I'm okay but to sleep is hard as I just feel so sick and uncomfortable but not surprising really as not alot of room in there.

Right better go for wee and see what else happens while in there lol

0FrillyKnickers0 · 16/02/2012 14:01

Flirty, try ordering your shop online. I did that the other week cause it had to be done and I couldn't face going out. The girls are right, ice-lollies and fizzy sweet stuff does help. But you must go and see your GP. They will hopefully prescribe you something to help.

I had a pants night sleep last night so am feeling extra tender and sorry for myself today :( DH and i had got a bit mardy at each other too. All sorted now but because i am so tired it feels 100x worse!!

Right, I am off for a sleep. So frigging tired.

Until later lovely ladies x

NeedlesCuties · 16/02/2012 15:49

Hi!

Just quickly posting to say I have read what you all have said in the past day or two and I send my warmest best wishes to you all.

Got anti-biotics yesterday for the UTI and starting to feel better already. Haven't felt too sick today, but can only cope with being in the kitchen for a minute or two before I start to feel that familiar nausea. I swear that sometimes I think I can smell things in my fridge through the fridge door!

DS (almost 2) still has long naps in the afternoon which really are my lifeline as it means I can sit on sofa and veg for a while, it does help re-charge my batteries.... then sometimes I look around and think I could have been doing X Y Z bits of housework in that time but just have no motivation or energy.

Oh, he's just woken up and is calling me. Must dash!

smk84 · 16/02/2012 16:03

HI everyone, and welcome to new ladies. Sending lots of love and strength to you all. So sorry to hear so many of you are suffering, days with this terrible sickness can be awfully dark and depressing, but there is hope and it will end.

ArtyJennie · 16/02/2012 18:43

Needles I know what u mean about the fridge. I was convinced something was off in mine- I got dh to completely empty it and clean it out but it still smells awful to me! I hold my breath every time I go to open it. Everyone thinks I'm mad!

I agree with the online food shop- its the only way I can do it now as I'm not leaving the house much. Even seeing some food online makes me wheezy though :(

Does anyone else's sickness get worse as the day goes on?

horseynewmum · 16/02/2012 19:47

Arty In my first triemester I couldnt tell the difference in levels of sickness through the day but now at 27 weeks I find I'm getting worse as the day goes on. By this time of day getting up to go to loo is hard work. I find I'm out of breath quickly and feeling sick alot more then first thing in the morning

0FrillyKnickers0 · 16/02/2012 22:21

Yeah, mine seems to get worse as the day goes on Arty. I am on tablets but am usually sick in the evenings. It's grim. I took my tablet an hour and a half late tonight but it was too late :( All that precious fluid I had got down decided it wanted to come back up! Sorry if TMI. Bleugh. I am just so fed up of this!

MotherofPearl · 17/02/2012 10:21

Horsey, 27 weeks already! It may not feel like it but you're not that far off now - just think, in 3 weeks time you'll be 3/4 of the way there! :)

Interesting that so many of us report feeling worse in the afternoon - that was certainly my experience. Between 4pm and about 7pm was always horrendous, which unfortunately coincided with DD coming home from nursery and the whole bath- and bed-time routine. Argh. Those of you struggling to look after DC while battling HG, try not to feel too guilty about using TV etc to cope - just do what you have to do to survive. DC are very resilient. Meebles, my DD also used to pat my back while I was being sick, and also liked to give a running commentary on what was coming out ('mummy, that was just spit, oh no, that was a bit of sick, more spit' etc etc!) Blush

Hope everyone feeling as OK as possible today. Flirty, how are you feeling? Are you taking any meds? It sounds like you need them. If you've not taken a look at MOH's brilliant website yet then do: sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
There's lots of good info on the website about meds and you could try printing it off and taking to the GP to back you up. Can you get your DH to go with you to the GP and offer you some moral support? Keep us posted on how you get on.

LucindaE · 17/02/2012 17:40

Flirty So agree with others, you do need meds to cope and watch out for urine turning dark, those headaches, etc. Don't be guilty about LO, they are so resiliant, as others say, having a sibling will far more than make up for it.

Jenny How are things today?
MOP Lol about your LO's running commentary!
Meebles How old is your friend's LO, that sounds so sweet? For sure, that prize will be priceless.
Horsey How is the nausea now? You are, as MOP says, getting there, though I am sure it seems forever to you!
Frilly There can never be TMI on here, everyone is free to discuss such things as the contents of sick bowls and a strange foam I once managed to produce, lots and lots of it, though I was dehydrated. Where did it come from?
I hope you are a bit less tired today.
SMK How are things with you?
Needles It does affect the sense of smell, even people can smell weird Shock.
I hope I haven't rudely ignored anyone, if so apologiies...
Lucinda
xx

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theonlyhb2 · 18/02/2012 12:00

Horsey, 27 weeks, not long now! remember being 8 weeks and thinking ahhhh I would give ANYTHING to be further along.....and now you are :)

I was off work for a few months and was on full pay but that was at company discretion. Our standard procedure is SSP after 3 days. When I went back, however, I was paid for the hours I worked and had to use a lot of holiday so I could have every wednesday off as could cope with 2 days in a row but more than that, the tiredness got me then the puking.

Lucinda, thank you for your lovely msg, just seen it. Am doing OK thank you. I have to say, HG has pretty much ruined me for the 2 weeks I had it! Whereas after birth you get that new rush of hormones, I have been left feeling wiped out, miserable, and with severe aversion to food. any food. Apart from chocolate brownies and KFC. I can cook lovely meals that I eat 2 bites of then leave. I cannot eat in the morning, no matter how hard I try. Ovaltine is my new diet staple! Yesterday I ate a slice of toast and half a plate of stir fry. Its ridiculous. Going out to eat is better, but if I eat out thats normally my only meal of the day. So its a bit of a struggle!

Harper is now 6 months! I go back to work on 1st May, full time. Dreading it.

Can I suggest jelly for breakfast? Once that was kept down I could attempt to drink water. Dr Pepper is a saviour. And jalapeño peppers on everything ;) oh and who could forget the Great Crumpet Fetish of Spring 2011....

horseynewmum · 18/02/2012 12:17

Hi all. Thanks for the message. I know 27 weeks I still cant believe I've got this far. It only seems like yesterday I was thinking of getting rid as the sickness had affected my life so much but I'm glad I didn't cause Its going to be worth it and I know I'm better off without all these people in my life. I actual smile now and DH said its the first time since I found out I was pregnant I've smiled.
Nausea has improved lots compared to first trimester but I still feel shit in evenings and some mornings I feel shit so I have a don't do anything day to manage it.

Only Can't believe its been six months since you had harper. Bet its felt like a dream unlike the 9months before that

Hope everyone is coping ok

LucindaE · 19/02/2012 16:08

TheOnlySad It's awful the symptoms have lingered. I do hope you start feeling better soon. I so agree about jelly, dare I suggest tinned fruit in it sometimes? I used to drink the juice of tinned fruit, well, things that are purely unhealthy seem to stay down better.
Horsey Poor old you about nausea, but so glad that you are smiling.
Hope Everyone is coping.
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 20/02/2012 12:01

Oh no the spewing with no warning has made a return. I haven't been sick for 2 weeks but still had alot of nausea especially in evenings and at night when trying to sleep until last night when I woke up being sick. No warning. Then again when I got up and another one mid morning. Poor dog nearly sick over him it came on with so little warning. He just looked at me as if to say. OH no not again but he sat next to me nudging me resuarringly.
Off to see midwive this afternoon for a check up. I was hoping to go and tell her the sickness had reduced.
I'll let you all know how it goes later

Magnumwhite · 20/02/2012 20:25

Hi all,
35 weeks today and yet another stinking cold. can't believe how rubbish my immune system is. For so many reasons can't wait for the baby to arrive. Oh to feel like me again and enjoy food again!
welcome to all the Newbies :) sorry you're having to go through this

Cosmogirl · 21/02/2012 10:55

Hello ladies, remember me? Sorry I have been AWOL for ages. I went through some very dark weeks and wasn't really feeling able to go on my laptop and post. Pleased to say though that things really picked up at 13/14 weeks. I started steriod therapy at 10 weeks because I was at the end of my tether. I hadn't been able to get out of bed for almost 6 weeks and was just so depressed and low. I just felt I had no quality of life and couldn't see that things were going to improve. I started the prednisone in conjuction with the ondansetron and I think it helped to kickstart the improvement. I was able within a few days of starting steriods to sit up in a chair and watch TV (a massive feat having been bed bound all day). From there things got better.

I am now 16 weeks and have slowly weaned off the steriods. I've also stopped the ondansetron. I haven't vomited in about 16 days but unfortunately I still have bad nausea, but eating helps to ease it and I hope it will get better as the weeks go on. I have put back on the 11 pounds I lost during the first trimester.

The nausea still gets me down and I find it hard to be as patient with my DD (aged 3) as I would like. I know I can't be the mum I want to be or the real me until this baby is born and the HG is gone for good.

Thinking of all those in the worst stages of HG. I hope that I can give some of you some hope that things can improve. It is so good to be functional now and not stuck in bed. HG when it has you in its grip can make you so hopeless and you feel things will never improve - but trust me, they will. xx

Cosmogirl · 21/02/2012 11:15

Magnum - 35 weeks! That's brilliant - the end is really in sight for you. Sorry about cold. I had one the other week - not fun with HG... My next milestone is 20 week scan. Hoping to find out the sex of the baby too, which I hope will help with bonding etc. I've felt movements early this time which is nice but looking forward to some strong kicks soon, although it probably won't help the nausea!