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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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LucindaE · 21/01/2012 12:50

Horsey Oh no, this is discouraging, I hope it's just a temporary setback.
Magnum I'm glad the puking has stopped, but nausea is miserable. I suppose it is some comfort to LOOK well...
Seapie Best wishes again.
MOH Hello, how is LO?
Quiet on here of late, I hope that means that people are coping rather than too ill to communicate!
Lucinda
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MotherofPearl · 22/01/2012 19:37

Just popping on briefly to say hello. Have been away for the last month and now feeling nicely restored to my former self! Little Abel is now 8 weeks old and getting plumper by the minute! He smiles and gurgles and is generally adorable. Hang in there those of you who are in the worst throes of sickness and nausea - it may not feel like it now but it is worth it in the end, as I'm sure you know.

Sorry to see there are newbies - hope you are all managing to find understanding GPs who are prescribing helpful medication. I see many of the stalwarts are still suffering. magnum, I found people telling me I looked well infuriating - I wanted to look as bad as I felt!

theonly, hope you're OK? I feel so for you - what a tough decision, but sounds like the right one for you under the circs. Thinking of you. x

smk84 · 22/01/2012 22:23

Hi everyone !
Horsey sorry to hear. Hope you are on the up again soon.
Seapie best wishes for the birth. So exciting ! Completely understand why you are going for CS !
Mother - that's lovely :)
Need how are you? Keep thinking of you.
And Bakewell how are you?
Things all good here, DS seems to have calmed down from his highly strung phase which is a relief. A couple of times he has said "there's a baby in my tummy" and lifted his top to show us ! Melts me ! Think I will be an emotional wreck when the baby is born !!

needinstructions · 23/01/2012 12:42

Hi everyone, sorry to hear of the struggles still ongoing, although very excited about Seapie's imminent arrival!

Unfortunately I've relapsed quite spectacularly over the last couple of days although I am wondering whether it's actually a sick bug rather than HG returning as it feels completely different - no warning on the vomiting is the worst bit... My immune system is clearly completely shot to shit though as I've had a bad cold that turned into an ear infection and sinusitis, followed immediately by this new phase of vomiting. I know you'll all understand when I say I am absolutely desperate to have a day of feeling well!

On the plus side, DH has been really sympathetic and has taken loads off me over the weekend so I could rest a bit. We really do seem to have turned a corner - I did raise the subject of him being less than supportive in a very tentative way, then burst into helpless sobbing when he took it as a lighthearted conversation and tried to do some gentle teasing. I think he now understands a bit more just how difficult I'm finding being ill all the time. Fingers crossed it lasts! (the understanding, rather than the illness Wink)

LucindaE · 23/01/2012 17:30

Instructions I'm glad OH is doing better, but sorry to hear that you are still in a bad way with the scourge. You know it will be worth it, but it's hard to remember, and any insensitivity feels like the last straw! Cyber hugs to you and to Horsey.
SMAGood news that you're feeling better.
Pearl Eight weeks already! It was so nice of you to come back to encourage people...
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 23/01/2012 17:30

SMK I keep on calling you, SMA, as in the formula milk! Freudian slip, or what?!
Lucinda
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horseynewmum · 23/01/2012 19:08

Hi all.

need glad things are getting better with your OH and he realising that your not acting/making it up.

Sorry not been on for few days been feeling crap. The sickness/tiredness and naursea has increased and I'm generally feeling shit again. The problem is this late on is I can't get comfy as sofa not big and bump kicking me left right and centre. Also being sick with a slightly full bladder now is intresting. Now going back for a lie down head is spinning.

smk84 · 23/01/2012 20:53

Lucinda hehe, I noticed but didn't say cos thought it sounded memorable, plus in real life I am actually SML, which sort of sounds like smell, so SMA is sure an improvement :P
Horsey sorry to hear that. Are you still on cyclizine?(if I remember correctly?). If so would it be worth seeking out other meds, perhaps the Onandestron (sorry I don't know how to spell it) as most people say that seems to make a huge difference.
Need sorry to hear you are so poorly and glad your DH is being more understanding.

LucindaE · 24/01/2012 09:28

SMK Grin!
Horsey Poor you, it doesn't sound like those meds are doing their job at all, can you stand another trip to the doctors (with carrier bag Shock to ask for others?
It is awful about the puking and peeing, isn't it? It's awful you are suffering so late on.
I never know whether to recommend Acupuncture or not. It really helped me as I have often said, I was in desperate straits when the practitioner skipped a lunch break to help me; but it varies so much, it seems to work for only a few days for others like Caramel and Grumblin and I found it horrifically expensive, and that was some time ago. I know it helped Fluffy too but not sure to what extent as she still had to be on meds.
Cyber hugs to all.
Lucinda
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horseynewmum · 24/01/2012 15:28

The thing is the cyclezine had been making it managable and now suddenly over night I feel like I've gone back so many steps. The other thing is I'm feeling more and more alone.
DH is becoming more and more distant. He carries on like nothing has happened and life was like it was before the pregnancy where he could do what he wanted but cause i've lost everything that kept me busy so to speak due to HG I feel so alone and lost. I just wish he'd help me get ready for this baby cause at this rate when it arrives it be sleeping in a car seat with towels for blankets. Soon I mentioned it he says it not his problem.

Right now i've poured my heart out i'm going for a lie down and hope it looks better when I wake up

LucindaE · 24/01/2012 19:26

Horsey Tut, tut, this is naughty of him. Perhaps he's making the most of the last of his freedom before the disturbed nights? Don't worry too much about a cot and so on, everyone seems to get one and the baby ends up in bed with you anyway. Really sorry that it's been such a sudden relapse, that is dismal.
Can you face plodding back to the Doctor?
Lucinda
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horseynewmum · 24/01/2012 19:36

lucindia i can understand what you mean re enjoying freedom before distubed nights but the way he talks makes me think different. he says things like 'once baby here you'll be better so you can start doing your share of stuff again so I have more time to do what I want.' or 'once baby born you can get a job at supermarket round my shifts or get my mum to babysit.' HELLO aint that easy.
Trying to get to doctors but trying to get there is a problem as I cant drive when feeling this ill and DH is not exactly being helpful. I'll get there some how even if means takes me an hour to get there.
Men they are weaker of the 2 sexes

LucindaE · 25/01/2012 08:32

Horsey Poor old you, DH for sure isn't being helpful, I suppose there isn't any chance of his reading the info so that he sees that it's a serious illness? but no, men don't seem to go in for that much. I have to agree about men being the weaker sex, I'm a real matriarch, I'm afraid! The supposedly fearless heroes of legend would be suicidal after three days of Hyperemesis, I always think. Staggering to the doctors is awful, but I suppose more bearable than taking a taxi and being sick on the way. He might drive you if you said getting some meds that work will make things easier for him? Of course, it is the worst time to get a job when baby is tiny, and would be a shame, too, to miss out on lots of those precious first times together with the new arrival, which make up for being so ill during pregnancy.
Cyber hugs.
Lucinda
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seapie · 26/01/2012 18:20

Iona was born by c-section on the 24th, after a frustrating 24 hour wait for a midwife to be available so that I could go to theatre. I was in early labour since 21st so i think they were hoping the baby might pop out and save them the trouble.

At 7lb13 the HG doesn't seem to have affected her weight. Spectacular puking in the recovery room and for 24 hours afterwards, but I hope this is down to the spinal and the lack of sleep for 3 nights.

Good luck everyone and thanks for your support

champs · 26/01/2012 19:05

Hi everyone!!!! Just wanted to pop in from the Pink Castle and let you know Baby arrived 19th December, another Boy!!
The odd thing is that although I am not vomition anymore, I feel ill at times and some of the foods that really had me heaving are still off limits now. I have a dislike for rice still although I am trying to eat it when I can to get used to it. It really tastes so odd. I can just about manage pasta in tube variety but spagetti is a big NO and tagetelli(sp) not too good either.

I had a funny tummy the other day and was sick in the morning , as I cleaned my face, I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror - bloodshot eyes, pale face....and had flashback of HG OMGosh got cold sweat and such a horrid feeling just remembering the bad days!!

I am still on PE monitering post birth and am feeling sorry for myself as I was thinking all the HG and PE probs would be finally gone when I gave birth and gah!!! it seems like I'm in limbo..... so sorry to be a moaney whiner!! Has anyone had experience of not going back to normal straight away?

A HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to all the Pink Castle members and to those still suffering I hope you are having as good a day as possible

LucindaE · 27/01/2012 10:15

Seapie Champs Wonderful, two new Pink Castle arrivals. GrinGrinWineWine. Congratulations on getting through what must have been one of the worst periods of your life. Sleepless nights are as nothing to that...Champs Sorry about stomach bug, a horrible reminder. Seapie It does take longer to go in some than others, but go it does. That was a prolonged early stage, nasty...Thanks to both for coming on to encourage others with this happy final result. Flowers
Lucinda
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MotherofPearl · 27/01/2012 11:48

Seapie, many congratulations and welcome to the Pink Castle! Iona is a lovely name, and she was a good weight too. Hope you'll feel recovered soon and able to tuck into all the previously avoided foods!
Poor you champs, that's really rubbish that you're still haunted by HG. 8 weeks on I find there are still some foods I was sick on that I can't face - doritos cool original flavour, anyone? I binge ate them at one point in my PG, thinking they were the magic food that would cure HG, but I was spectacularly ill on them one memorable afternoon and will never touch them again!

needinstructions · 27/01/2012 12:29

Congratulations to Seapie and champs!! It must be wonderful to have your babies after all the horrible sickness (although SO sorry you've not got rid of the sick feeling yet, champs). I've been compulsively watching One Born Every Minute to remind myself that I'm not just ill, there is a point to all this, and weeping happily and emotionally at all those lovely babies being born.

I'm swinging back and forth between good days when I come into work and just have low level nausea (heaven) and bad days which always seem to fall on the weekend or my day off, which involve much throwing up. Steps forward though, and generally I'm able to feel quite positive.

Question for you all: does anyone else find it almost impossible to clean their teeth? It's the one thing that's still guaranteed to make me heave and I'm getting quite worried as I now have toothache in my back molars. How do you decide if it's better just to leave it, or to risk brushing and potentially giving your teeth a lovely wash with stomach acid?

horseynewmum · 27/01/2012 13:40

Hi all. Well done on your new arrivals. seapie glad of the good weight just proves our body's are wonderful things and produce our little mircles with very little nutrition but then so does half the women in africa and places like that. Champs sorry to hear your still ill hope it passes soon.

meebles · 27/01/2012 16:15

Congrats to everyone with new arrivals!

needinstructions - I find it hard to brush my teeth. DH keeps nagging me about it as he has to have something to worry about. I try to brush my teeth after I've vomited, since I'm unlikely to do it again so soon. Have you seen your dentist? Free remember....

LucindaE · 29/01/2012 10:17

Instructions Sorry things are not as good as they could be, though I'm so glad that they are looking up.
Meebles and Everyone I so agree about teeth. Don't be too frightened though, I believe rinsing the acid frrom bile off with water is the main thing.
Pearl To this day I can't endure those biscuits which I foolishly ate - what are they called, 'iced gems'. I retch if I so much as smell them! Less dramatically, I had a tantrum when someone offered me grilled fish and boiled potatoes because I practically lived on that at one time.

Horsey I have managed to write my message to you in such bad handwriting even I can't read it! Back soon...
Lucinda
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LucindaE · 29/01/2012 10:19

Horsey That's it, I meant to say I hope OH is being a little more sensitive?
Lucinda
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Magnumwhite · 29/01/2012 17:09

I found the only toothpaste I can tolerate when pregnant is Euthymol - hate the taste of normal mint toothpaste but I'm guessing this may be an individual thing!
Back in bed today. had the most horrendous D and V bug last night - seriously the cramps were so bad I though I was in labour. Baby was kicking like mad as well so what with that plus heartburn, nausea and severe cramps I have never had so much going on in my abdomen at once!
feel completely beaten up today . 32 weeks tomorrow - next 8 weeks cannot go fast enough for me.
love to everyone else

LucindaE · 30/01/2012 17:17

Magnum Sympathy and cyber hugs, that sounds truly awful. I do hope you are feeling a bit better today?
Lucinda
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theonlyhb2 · 30/01/2012 19:24

CONGRATULATIONS SEAPIE! lovely news, although no fun having to wait so long for a midwife! And Congrats to Champs too (I get the food thing, can't eat ham or mini eggs anymore!)

needinstruction feel for you, its horrible getting some time to rest and being sick the whole time! The brushing teeth was a massive no no for me (and one of the reasons I knew I was pregnant again). As a result I now have a tooth guard to wear at night with sensitive toothpaste in to help repair my teeth. Still weird about toothpaste though so havent even used it yet! Useless. Magnum my mum uses that, crazy tasting!!

MoP thanks for the kind words. I had it done just over a week ago (after a week laid up in bed with HG starting. It was horrific. I couldn't do anything and I was so depressed. How did we survive 9 months of it?!) Woke up on the Saturday like my old self again! Still feeling a bit sick on occasion but I think this is more in my head? It was horrible not to be able to cope with Harper for a week and my poor OH had to look after both of us. Had 2 anti-sick jabs in hospital too during that week, they are crazy!!

An HG related story.......There were 6 people on the ward the day I was in and 2 of us had HG. Other lady was admitted for fluids and they couldn't organise termination for her cos she had been too sick. She then had to discharge herself cos her child was being sent home from school and she had no one to look after them, and she had to be booked back in for fluids over the next week before they could do it. Poor lady. Again, really brought it home to me that I didn't really suffer at all compared to her, and I am traumatised by HG! They were fantastic on the ward and totally understood and supported (and even encouraged) my decision based on the history. Its a shame that same knowledge isn't passed onto Dr's or most of the midwives! They were chasing me about trying to give me another anti-sick jab cos they heard me puking!

Horsey hope you are doing OK

gentle hugs to all and thanks again for the support!