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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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Cosmogirl · 04/01/2012 12:24

Hi all, sorry not been around been feeling hideous and can hardly do anything but lie still in bed. Everything makes me feel even more nauseous. I'm only 8 +4. I wish I had never got pregnant I'm hating every single minute of this and planning my sterilisation already. Still on 16 mg zofran but puke morning and afternoon and am nauseated all day long so that I can't function. Why is my body so fecking useless at pregnancy ? Sorry for the depressive post I can't see the wood for the trees and this feels like torture.

Magnumwhite · 04/01/2012 14:04

Cosmo :(
wish i could take it away for you. At this early stage it just feels like an eternity. No need to apologise. It is torture. are you getting enough help?

MOH100 · 04/01/2012 14:38

cosmo oh you poor thing that is bad, will they not give you anything else in combination? Are you trying large doses of vitamin B6 + cyclizine or promethazine as well? You can get all of these things over the counter so you could just give it a go without asking for permission. Check the ondansetron leaflet for contra-indications and have a go if there aren't any. Are you managing to eat or drink at all? If not, you might have to ramp it up to steroids to avoid dehydration?

Cosmogirl · 04/01/2012 15:39

Thanks MOH. I have been prescribed cyclizine but haven't been taking it. When I tried the other day taking a cylizine & folic acid I vomited straight after. Haven't tried again to be honest. I know i probably should. I'm desperate to avoid hospital but feel so shit I wonder if my stubbornness is not such a good thing. I've been not to bad with eating and drinking until today when the nausea seems to have got much worse.

Cosmogirl · 04/01/2012 15:43

Thanks magnum. We have accessed Gp/ hospital etc but unless I get admitted I feel I'm on my own now. Thankfully my parents & DH are doing almost all DDs care as I can't.

Cosmogirl · 04/01/2012 16:11

Midwife just called to tell me I have a uti - just keeps getting better. Will need ab. Maybe might explain why I've been going down hill though?

MOH100 · 04/01/2012 16:35

cosmo that's good news in a funny way, it would explain why you feel so awful despite meds, you should improve after antibiotics. I had tonisilitis last year and I couldn't believe how bad I felt, it was just like HG again but two doses of penicillin later I was back to normal.

horseynewmum · 04/01/2012 17:10

Cosmo to you having a UTI may not make you feel better but as MOH says it will explain why meds aren't working and hopefully once the anti-biotics kick in and the UTI gone hopefully your prescribed meds for the sickness can do their job. big hugs and just remember you can't feel worse lol

LucindaE · 04/01/2012 19:14

Everyone Just back home from Bucks (mother doesn't trust me with her PC and I don't blame her!) after a delay because couldn't use motorway yesterday because of drastic weather conditions. I have just scanned through,but will catch up properly tommorow. Sorry to all suffering, and at least the Worst Christmas and New Year of Your Life (hopefully!) is over...Hugs to all, and mad waving too...
LucindaE
xx

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bakewelladdiction · 04/01/2012 19:45

Hi everyone. Lying in bed all day too. Everytime I move I start retching. Feel so guilty for my little boy, he is just watching massive amounts of tv. Why oh why did I think I could do this again. Am feeling so down, and like Cosmo planning my sterilisation!

seapie · 05/01/2012 09:49

I have 19 more days to go until the c-section, and only 14 more ondansetron tablets. I feel like a junkie deciding what days I shall have to go cold turkey on! I shall try today. Feel pukey but at least my daughter is at school so hopefully I wont have to do much.

Sorry to everyone in the first few awful months - I'm not trying to rub it in that I've almost got there. But I am literally counting down the days. It's awful but my mind seems more set on getting rid of the nausea than the fact that I will be having a baby. Very selfish of me. I can't believe I'm looking forward to sleepless nights, cracked nipples and recovering from surgery.

Cosmo I had a UTI during my first HG pregnancy that triggered such bad sickness I ended up really dehydrated and in hospital. The good thing was that the antibiotics actually worked so I was soon back home.

I'm going back to bed now

fleurelise · 05/01/2012 11:14

Hi everyone, hope you all managed to enjoy some of the Christmas/New Year fun. I was feeling pretty miserable myself and spent it visiting family but recently (this week) have noticed some improvements. I'm back to work next week so hopefully I'll be able to cope.

Cosmo I had a uti as well a couple of months ago which definitely made my HG worse... Hopefully clearing that up will help significantly.

Hugs to everyone else. Counting the weeks..

horseynewmum · 05/01/2012 11:21

I'm quickly popping on mainly to have a moan and get something of my chest before I loose the plot or worse still do something stupid. Me and DH had the biggest and almightest of rows last night. End result was me spending most the night sitting in what is going to be the nursery in tears being sick thinking why the hell am I doing this to myself. I sat there thinking how can I love something that has/is causing me so much upset, hurt and making my life miserable.

The row started over the dishwasher. Its broken and I said lets get someone in to fix it to which DH said if I was working and not signed off it wouldn't be a question but as that wasn't the case the dishwasher have to be left. To which I said maybe you shouldn't got me pregnant then and we wouldn't be in this mess to which my DH said he starting to regret it. All I need really I have enough doubts myself don't need him saying the same.

Sorry for moan now going for a lay down and get some sleep and maybe i'll feel better after

seapie · 05/01/2012 14:54

horsey Really sorry you are having a horrible time. I've had massive rows with my partner during this pregnancy, and I feel even worse because they've upset my 3 year old daughter. They start over the most trivial of things (mainly housework - his inability to do it) and can fester for days. You just don't have the energy to deal with them.

We are still together ( I didn't think we would be a few months ago), and I'm hoping that things will be easier one this baby is born. In fact, I'm seriously considering not breastfeeding this one, so that he has to do a bit more of the work..........

Hang in there if you can

Cosmogirl · 05/01/2012 15:39

Hi all, thanks for all the comments re uti. Really helpful. I managed to get some liquid amoxicillin today and having taken two doses have had a better day. Afternoon been ropes but I usually get worse as the day progresses. Nights have been crap with the wind and rain and endless visits to the toilet for a wee. Hopefully when this uti clears I will get some better rest as nighttime is my only break from HG normally.

Lucinda - definitely glad to see the back of Xmas and new year. Time cannot go quick enough.

Horsey - sorry for rough patch. I hate how HG seems to want to destroy everything it touches, including our relationships with partners. I hope you can talk things through and work it out. It is really hard though I know. I remember first preg wondering if I would blame dd when she was born for the horrible time I'd had. But alas I did not at all and had nothing but love for her when the miserable preg was just a bad memory.

I'm pleased for those ladies nearing the end of this journey. You are all heroes for getting through a preg like this.

horseynewmum · 05/01/2012 16:49

Cosmo and Seapie I'm glad its not just me but yes it does feel like everything I touch is melting away from me.What worries me is that when my DC is born i'll hate it, not want it and generally not give two hoots about the baby. I'd feel better if my DH was a bit more excited about the baby. Whenever I mention baby he changes convesation or leaves the room. Think I might need to see a shrink Confused

LucindaE · 05/01/2012 19:07

Oh dear, people have been suffering horribly. Horsey Cybers hugs to poor you, don't despair, it puts such a strain on a relationship, this foul condition, hold on, it can only get easier as time goes on.
Men don't know how to empathise, do they, but their anger is often concern but it's annoying.
Seapie All good luck for that op - and I am so sorry that you have suffered throughout. I hope it hasn't ogne back to being anything like as bad as it was at one time?
Cosmo How awful to have a UTI and Hyperemesis - you can't treat either easily because of the other. I do so hope those tablets start working soon, how miserable.
Bakewell Poor you, don't despair, you did the right thing though it may not appear like that at the moment,I really regret not going for it a second time, LO willl soon get over all that television watching and it's great for a child to have a sibling to gang up on the adults with. You were very brave to go for it.
Spannermary Thank goodness no teaching, do take it easy.
Waves to MOH TheOnly and Magnum.
Cyber hugs to Everyone suffering. It will pass. It seems that time is standing still, but it's still ticking away.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 05/01/2012 19:11

Horsey I wanted to add, I'm sure you won't feel like you dread you will, as you start to feel a tiny bit better and the movements get stronger it's so exciting. I think it's not real to a lot of men until the birth even, my OH said in astonishment 'I can see the head!' What did he expect to see? A bottle of Gaviscon (I'd swallowed enough?!)
Lucinda
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Magnumwhite · 06/01/2012 08:28

Lucinda thanks for looking after us all! This is the only antenatal thread I belong to as everyone just gets what our pregnancies are like and it means alot.
Not that I am doing too badly at all now. 28 weeks now. Have just been through massive growth spurt over Christmas (well baby has!) which always makes nausea worse, esp when staying with PILS where i basically didn't sleep much at all.
But now just plugging along day by day and able to manage the nausea well by eating alot and would you believe it - Ginger Beer - I never thought i'd be able to tolerate ginger!
Seapie don't feel guilty about being more excited about HG finishing than baby arriving - you have afterall been more intimately connected with the HG than the human life inside you for the past 8 months!
Horsey please don't worry about whether you will love the baby now. I didn't feel love for DS til after he popped out and I love him to bits now. I don't really what i would call tangible love for this one now, neither does DH but it doesn't worry me because of what happened last time.

LucindaE · 06/01/2012 12:44

Magnum I'm so glad that you are feeling better and have found this thread useful. Ginger beer, just fancy! Lol about baby's growth spurt in there.
I hope Everyone is managing today.
Lucinda
xx

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MOH100 · 06/01/2012 15:49

horsey there was someone on the facebook thread who said she was suffering from anxiety and stress from hyperemesis after the birth and a psychologist from pregnancy sickness support advised her to ask her GP for a referral for psychological counselling. I'm sure you could do the same. I think it's quite common with hyperemesis to feel resentful towards the baby but it's such a taboo nowadays in our society for any mother or pregnant women to express any feelings that aren't gushingly maternal that we're afraid to say anything. It's especially hard when everyone around you keeps saying oh it'll be worth it, I really hated that with a passion, I found it so patronising and just showed how little people understood - BTW it's ok from someone else who's had HG, but nobody else!! Your doctor should understand, it's well known that HG is mentally tough as well as physically.

horseynewmum · 06/01/2012 17:48

Thank you MOH my doctor is fully aware of my depression as I've suffered it before and to quite a degree. They have been quiet supportive and my midwife has offered me 'someone to talk to after birth'. Also I've seen my hospital notes (long story how that happen) and i've got it on them then im at risk of post-natal depression. So I think I'm not able to slip through the radar. I'm feeling a bit better today after some alone time and thinking. One day I'm up and one day I'm down. Pregnancy can do so much bad things LOL

seapie good luck with c-section.

Magnum ginger beer. The thought of ginger egh!!!!!!!!!!! glad it works for you.

theonlyhb2 · 07/01/2012 10:23

well, who is a stupid girl? I am pregnant again. already. no idea how far, when it happened, as we hadn't had sex for a month! and we had been careful! at least 6 weeks judging from last period. Dr monday and not going thru with it. i cant take HG again or losing 3.5litres of blood after birth again. not so soon! argh! now terrified the sickness is going to start. had the hounds following me around, metallic taste, puked brushing my teeth, weird wee, weird poo ARGH! need to get this out!

what makes it hard is I know you get something amazing at the end but we can't take it as a family. maybe i need to get my tubes tied?! had sex maybe 10 times in 5 months! we had sex 1000 times in 5 months before and nothing happened!!!!

theonlyhb2 · 07/01/2012 10:26

oh and horsey, i cant even associate Harper with HG. it doesn't seem possible the thing I hated so much because it was making me so sick is her. All of a sudden yr love just grows and grows every day they are out. The best thing about her popping out was I could leave her with the Daddy (with expressed boob milk) and bugger off to Tesco on my own. Did that every day from 5 days old. so nice to reclaim the old me! kept feeling guilty I was away from her for a few hours every day but I just needed time by myself to remind me who I was and then jump into the motherhood thing properly.

fluffywhitekittens · 07/01/2012 12:08

Theonly, so sorry x
You have to do what is right for you all but do take some time to think over all your options.