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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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horseynewmum · 02/12/2011 19:45

Hi all hope you all coping as best as you can. I've had a few good days this week just been exhausted. I cant believe how tired i've been. I'm use to working 50 plus hr weeks and never been this tired. Its as doctor said the baby taking all it needs so leaves the mum with nothing.
Glad you all like my 'no shit sherlock' it is one of my favs along with as 'much use as a chocolate teapot'

how everyone else?

fluffywhitekittens · 02/12/2011 20:25

Evening all, sorry have only read last two posts. I also use No Shit Sherlock :)
Smk, not sure about governors, even if he is allowed to say it ould only have been courteous to inform you.
How many weeks are you? I had months of work with dd, I think it was around May that I went off and didn't go back until the September term :(
I think you'll just have to explain that hopefully twenty weeks could be the turning point but you don't know. Obviously you may have done this already, sorry haven't read all to catch up.
I think I also had to get a dr letter to say that I was fit to work when I went back due o having so long off.
Are you in a union do you have a rep you could contact?

Waves madly to everyone else. Xmas Smile

fluffywhitekittens · 02/12/2011 20:30

Just had very brief scan through.
Congratulations Diddygirl!
And Cosmogirl, fingers crossed everything goes well this time x

LucindaE · 03/12/2011 14:44

SM My goodness, the insensitivity of such a communication from your governers! I can only echo Fluffy's words, not sure of legal situation - but they shouldn't be putting pressure on you to say when you will be better - you don't know.
Horsey Symapthies about fatigue, so true about baby taking it all...You used to work a fifty hour week, some people are overworked...
Fluffy Lovely to hear from you (offers cushion in Pink Castle).
Oh dear, its awful for people have Hyperemesis at this time of year., cyber hyugs to all. People constantly talking abut food;Sad I remember Grumblin had to run down a side street after seeing a display of Christmas puddings. I remember I had started feeling increasingly sick round New Year, and my horror when some salesman outside an off licence tried to sell me alcohol; - 'Everyone drinks at this time of year.' A little later on and I would have been sick on him...
I hope Everyone is OK, no more sudden trips to hospital.
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 05/12/2011 15:19

Hey, it's gone very quiet on here all of a sudden. I do hope everyone is all right, not unable to raise head from loo/in hospital/arguing with unsymapthetic doctors/too fed up for words?Xmas Sad
Hugs to all.
Lucinda
xx

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seapie · 05/12/2011 18:24

OK but fed up with a cold/cough that is stopping me sleeping. This has the knock-on effect of triggering the nausea, so I'm back on the ondansetron nearly every day. Annoyed because this means I'm going to have to do the whole going to hospital for a repeat prescription thing (I was hoping to make my supplies last until the birth.

Plus I've had nearly a month of having to avoid pregnant women because I was exposed to parvovirus at my last obs. clinic (one of the other pregnant women in the waiting room had it). So no antenatal classes or swimming for me, just as I was hoping to make friends with some other women due at the same time. Just had my final blood test, so hopefully I'll get the all clear next week, just in time for all the classes to stop for the Christmas break.

Anyway, whinge over now

smk84 · 05/12/2011 21:18

Hi all !
Thanks fluffy. I am almost 13.5 weeks now, and have actually been feeling a little better the last couple of days. Not going to speak too soon though ! I replied to the letter stating very matter of factly that I do not know when I will be able to go back, but that I will keep them informed. When I feel better I am going to get in touch with my union.
lucinda hi. I have been ok thanks, not been on because of writing the reply to the "when are you coming back" letter and been trying to do some online shopping for Christmas as I don't think I am gonna be making it to the shops this year ! I have booked acupuncture for Wednesday - having it at home thank goodness ! How are you?
seapie that sounds rough, so many things have happened to you !

Was thinking maybe we could start a little sub-thread of how to survive Christmas ! i.e. avoiding food and the smell of it, alcohol....... , and any other ideas that people have. Xmas Grin

LucindaE · 06/12/2011 09:51

Seapie Parvovirus! You poor, poor thing, my goodness, I suppoes the immune system being hammered by Hyperemesis must have made you vulnerable. I know just what you mean about swimming (though Iwent in fear of puking in a pool) because my doctor wouldn't let me because I'd had a miscarriage (though he didn't care, it seems, if I died of dehydration!). The new thread idea is great. Do you want to set about it or do you want bumbling mother hen Lucinda to do it for you, y ou being unwell? Oh dear. 'Happy Hyperemesis Christmas' Xmas Sadis a title that comes to mind...I do hope the cough goes soon, that's awful, you need your sleep.

SMK I'm so glad you are a little better, it's around the time coming up when it starts easing in so many cases. Good luck with the work letter, I'm glad your union is involved, as it should be.

Lucinda

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belindarose · 06/12/2011 10:56

SMK, I'm a teacher too and have been a governor for years. They are definitely NOT allowed to hassle you over this, although are within their rights (only just, IMO) to ask you tactfully for their own planning purposes. Please do get in touch with your union the minute you feel able to pick up the phone. I've been thoroughly screwed over by my school, but, as a supply teacher, have no rights whatsoever!

Great news from me - tentatively. I think I'm going to be one of the lucky ones who gets relief at 10 weeks. 10.4 today and haven't taken the meds for two days. I've eaten normal meals and haven't felt sick. I am staying at my mum's for a few days so haven't had to cook (lucky me!) but think I've turned the corner. I'm even beginning to get excited about the baby. Couldn't even think about it before!

However, well aware that it might come back, so fingers crossed. In the meantime, thanks for your support everyone.

smk84 · 06/12/2011 11:40

Thanks Lucinda
Belinda that's great that you are starting to feel better! Normal meals is a huge step forward !! Thank you for the advice about school.

smk84 · 06/12/2011 11:42

Oh and meant to say Belinda that is so rubbish that you don't get any rights as a supply teacher ! How can that be allowed ? Especially as these days human rights have gone mad !

horseynewmum · 06/12/2011 19:54

Hi all sorry not been on for while been at my mums for a few days as having some building work done. Why my DH chooses this time of year is beyond me Xmas Confused was nice as mum looked after me so well. think she likes having me around again. also get lovely home cooked food as my DH range of cooking is limited.

My downs sydrome test came back low and no sign of spina bifda too (runs in the family) so thats good. however I found out i'm d negative. does anyone else have this?

Recieved a letter from work after being signed off for a month, asking for my maternity certificate so they can work out when they start paying my SMP. love being told what do NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyway how is everyone else?

LucindaE · 07/12/2011 09:11

Belinda Relief at ten weeks? That's wonderful, I personally knew one other women who had it terribly between six and ten weeks, but then was OK - it can happen, how wonderful! It's awful supply teachers have no rights.
Horsey Hope you are feeling not too bad? This red tape is painful.
SMK Hope you are OK today.
Re: Seapie's excellent suggestion - a seperate Hyperemesis Christmas thread - I would say - aagh, but it's so obvious - avoid the smell of cooking fowl. First puked after smelling that.
Off to Welsh. Look after yourselves, Everyone.
Lucinda
xx

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theonlyhb2 · 07/12/2011 13:28

its been ages since i turned on the lappy! this is part 1 reply......

diddygirl congrats, what a beautiful name. plenty of doughnuts from Greggs in the pink castle today

Fleurlise what a brilliant idea, ooooo there are a few people I would like to puke on ha ha ha

spannermary great news re. Dr! what a sweetie indeed but it is right! everything is taken out of you to grow a child, you need to keep some back for yourself

MoP wooooo finally!!! lovely name, grab a donut, prop yrself on a cushion, and relax :) what a massive baby!!! maybe grab an extra cushion ring ;)

dinosaur re. the phernagan and about food, thats how I felt too, which is why i ended up smoking weed so I wanted to eat and it stayed down. it worked although obv not recommended by NHS ;) i was never a fussy eater and it was the strangest thing to be so SO fussy. Like only Greggs sausage rolls, only plain ham, no honey roast or crumbed edge, summer fruits capri sun (strawberry ribena was a no no). glad to say I am not so fussy now! at least you will love hospital food after birth ;)

cosmogirl congrats on the BFP!

theonlyhb2 · 07/12/2011 13:45

smk84 i dont think they are allowed to tell anyone if you have asked to keep it private but as with most things at wor this never happens! i would be highly pissed off and write to HR and say its a breech of confidentiality (which it is) and for a lot of reasons you don't want people knowing.

horsey i can see you now, post birth, nesting instinct kicking in, sod all this sleeping when they sleep, you can clean and cook and eat and dance and not sleep for days and still feel better than you did pregnant :) and they can't tell you when they are going to start paying your smp!!! how many weeks are you now as you don't have to even tell them you are officially pregnant til 15 weeks before your due date. they want you to do that so they can then stop paying you sick pay etc and just start yr smp cos yr off early but you don't have to be in agreement to that.

seapie you poor thing

belinda yay for not being as sick but boo about job. they can't discriminate from giving you the job even if you are pregnant (easier said than done i know!)

waves to Lucinda, sympathy with migraines today! possible start of one :( waves to fluffy too

Hmmm, well, Harper is now 17 weeks, 12lb 3oz (6lb 1oz at birth so doing pretty good!) she doesn't stop trying to talk! I still can't believe this beautiful child is mine, and this beautiful child made me SO ill! Dentist yesterday said all the puking taken the top layer off the back of my top teeth and now been fitted for mouth guard so can wear at night with stuff in the help them get better. Not BFing as much now, maybe twice a day, it takes SO much out of you! You have to eat so much and drink so much and my body didn't have too much left in it. Did well for 12 weeks but she actually happier on formula now, hungry monkey that she is! I am the lightest I have been for 4 years as well so deffo time to stop! So when you all have the babies, make sure you eat a lot and then some extra, and who cares if its takeaways on top of 3 meals a day! and on that note I should take my own advice and make some lunch :)

xxx

Clandy · 07/12/2011 21:07

Oh no I have been doing ok on meds for a few days now and only being sick once or twice even no times a day! Then I fancy a spaghetti bolognese for tea and throwing it up was one of the worst experiences of my entire life Sad think I have cut inside my throat!!! Currently sat having a cry about it all!

Sorry to post a me me me message after not being on for a while but promise to catch up and see how you all are when I feel better

LucindaE · 08/12/2011 12:17

Clandy Poor you, and I wasn't on Pc yesterday evening to symapathise - pasta is horrific to throw up, and with boulognaise - [green] [green]. I couldn't look a pasta bake in the face for years after a dreadful episode, in which a wardrobe was compromised Shock I hope yuo are feeling a little better this monring? It is odd the way something can really set the puking off, but hopefully, it doesn't seem to last. I'm glad things have been a lot better up unitl that.
TheOnly So nice of you to come on with an encouraging message, how time flies, Harper seventeen weeks already, did you say? How can this be? It's great to hear how she's thriving, and how Hyperemesis is a distant memory for you...
I hope people aren't overdoing things...

Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 08/12/2011 18:33

Thanks for the support theOnly spoke to midwife and they cant issue MAT1 till i'm 25 weeks and only 17 now. she has said if work keep asking for it till them to give her a ring. Work knew I was preg at 7 wks due to my work hours working 50 plus hrs some wks and being in the caring enviroment I wanted them to start understanding I cant be there to pick up the pieces all the time. In way i'm glad I told them or i'd been dismissed by now for amount of time off i've had, but on the other hand its given me nothing but shit. Oh why can't life be easy.
Glad your little one is doing well. 17wks bet thats flowen by.

Clandy I understand how you feel totally. you won't want to eat spag bol again in a hurry. As for the cut throat I did that on chips coming back up and i was only able to have soup, lollies and fluid for a few days as it hurt.

Lucinda hope your well.

Hope everyone else is struggling along safely

belindarose · 08/12/2011 19:36

Spoke too soon. Just a weird four day break from it as now it's back as 'good' as ever. At least I got a break and remembered what it's like to feel normal! I even did some housework yesterday!

LucindaE · 09/12/2011 11:20

Belindarose Poor you Xmas Sad. But once good days start happening, so often that is the turning point and they start becoming more and more frequent until they are the norm, so don't lose heart.
Clandy Re cut throat, it's the violence of the retching that does it, I used to get that and still get it with the violent puking with migraines, its awful, but the throat does seem to mend quickly. As Horsey says, ice lollies or ice cubes are the thing to soothe it. Really sypathise with you about how disgusting pasta is one the way back up again Shock.
Of course, I am sure everyone knows that brown blood is something that needs to be investigated...I remember NItNat who was very ill about a year ago, had that.
Lucinda
xx

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smk84 · 09/12/2011 14:41

Hi all, just wanted to say a quick 'hope you're all doing as well as possible'.
Belinda I sympathise - was bit better at weekend but nausea back with a vengeance now !
Horsey do you mean rhesus d-negative? I am so if that's what you mean I will explain as went through the whole thing when having DS (it's no problem).
clandy sorry to hear :(

horseynewmum · 09/12/2011 14:54

Smk84 yes i mean rhesus negative. sorry to much info being chucked at me the last few days brain cant cope.

sorry to hear that Belinda i understand what you mean. i was starting to improve till last night. trying to work out if it was the stress of doing the famiily xmas cards and telling them of our good news, doing an online shop or the fact the smell of tuna started it. could be all three LOL :o

knacked today

hope every1 else ok

Clandy · 09/12/2011 18:52

Sorry to hear it's back I seem to have better days get my hopes up then it makes it all seem worse than before cos you thought it was going!! Well fibrin the housework though think I've forgotten what that is Smile not sure if I feel tired now through sickness or sheer laziness!!

Sorry to hear work are being a pain ESP at a time when you don't need it! Hope it gets sorted and at least if they know you can't get it yet they might give you a break!
Surprised about the chips I have found them one of the better things to throw up....

Thanks once again for the support I shall not eat that again for a while! Really fancied a Chinese tonight but know there is no way Smile haha will have to settle for toast.

horseynewmum · 09/12/2011 20:01

Clandy I understand about the exhaust thing, vomiting really does take it out of you. My GP says that the baby is taking it out of me to grow so i'll keep to that excuse then I can put some blame on my DH as it is partly his fault LOL :o

Its amazing how quick vomiting can make you go off food

Magnumwhite · 10/12/2011 08:47

Hi all,
just a weekly check in. Usually it would seem less frequent posting means either:

things have got much better :)
things have got much worse :(
a baby has made its entrance:)

happy to report that in my case its the first answer. Since about 21 weeks there has been a big positive shift in the nausea - really only just a morning thing now and if I don't eat frequently enough. no vomiting for a good month now :) :) :)

Ds is also sleeping again at night and even manages a 45min nap in his cot at lunchtime most days again. its less than before but I am elated!

am actually looking forward to Christmas dinner now! would love to be of support to all still suffering - its such a miserable condition and i speak cautiously as I know i could rear its head again in the next 16 weeks.....but here's hoping not!

lots of love

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