Please help, I'm bleeding AGAIN and need advice!!

[quackers]

Well, my worst fears have started to emerge. I had a very small amount of brown blood about the size of 2p pence. I have very mild twinges where it has implanted as this area was tender from my m/c 4/5 months ago. I am sseing the Doc at 9.40 but he is not very good. We have no EPU and I don't have a midwife. This is not the time my P was due either. I am so worried this will happen again. Any advice would be so appreciated. Mears, Leese etc.. are you around ?????

Can't offer you any advise Quackers but just to let you know i am thinking of you and have my fingers & toes crossed.
I hope everything is OK

Quackers - I am no expert but I experienced spotting with my last pregancy at 7wks and 12 wks. It was also brown blood which the doctor said was old blood and not to worry - bright red is a more worrying sign. I am sure you will be OK.

try not to worry as grommit said brown blood is old blood and hopefully nothing to worry about,can u not just phone up your local maternity unit/hospital and ask there if you could come in to be checked,i would try this is doctor is no help.

I too was told brown blood was old blood.

I'll be thinking of you this morning, best of luck {{{}}}

Thanks all, we'll just have to see. I've got to convince my Doc first that the hospital scans from 6 weeks , he thinks it's 8.

quackers, I too had bleeding at 6 weeks and 14 weeks and I now have a lovely healthy ds. I know it's worrying but if it's brown blood then the best thing you can do is rest.
Of course if you're worried then ask the doctor to refer you for a scan.
Hope everything goes OK.

can't advise quackers but I will be praying for positive news for you.

Sorry to hear this quackers. As it is a small amount of brown blood it is unlikely to be a misscarriage. Even though your hospital doesn't have an EPU, you should be able to be referrred for an urgent scan. Scans can be done at 6 weeks but I know that our EPU does not like doing them so early because often the fetal pole in the sack is not well identifiable and then you need to go back in a week for a rescan. It means that the reassurance of a scan turns out to be more worry! So don't be too upset if you have to wait for a scan - it may take a few days for the referral in your area - not sure how it works everywhere. Unless you begin to pass fresh red blood and develop more pain, it sounds as though your pregnancy is OK. I too had a lot of brown satining with ds no.2 and all was well. I did have a misscarriage at 7 weeks and the bleeding was completely different. Good luck with the GP.

Quackers I expect you are at the docs by now so I hope it is going OK for you. I had brown blood when I had my first two mc but I was much further on than you and I would think that a mc so early would produce red blood. Of course this pg I had bleeding of all shades right from the day my period was due to 12 weeks and am 39 weeks today so its impossible to say.

You know all this anything though and nothing will make you feel better other than seeing your flicker on the screen. I hope they can scan you - if not just plug into mumsnet and keep talking for the next few days. Hard as it is you will get through it. Big hugs.

Quakers - I am thinking of you and hope all turns out well. BIG HUGS {{{{{{{}}}}}}}

Quackers thinking of you
During my m/c at 7 and half weeks, I started with bright pink and then fresh red blood. Not old/brown blood, if that is any reassurance to you

THanks all. Unfortunatley they could not yet see a beat or a fetal pole for that matter. The placenta is lying low too, so another aginst. The sac is there but nothing as yet. They get me at 5 weeks 6 days, so would expect a pole today or tommorow. I have to be rescanned next Friday but it doesn't look good. The odds are against. They say if a pole appears as the dates could be ever so slightly out and there is a heartbeat next week then it will give 95% chance. But I have pretty much given up hope. It's just too much against. He said if I was six weeks then he would defo see the pole so as I say wants to leave it a little longer to be sure.
Thanks all for your support.

Just read your message Mears. I didn't go all the way down the thread! Thankyou for that as I obviously is the case for me. Don't know if you;re there at all? Just would appreciate your thoughts. I had LMP 21.06.03, had an implantation bleed exactly 3 weeks later, which was exactly 3 weeks ago today. So today 5 weeks 6 days. Had internal scan too but no sign, sac looked good but as I say, lower than they would like. I am beside myself, really am. I have had such bad luck - sorry feeling sorry for myself - just so sad. Doc just summarised, bleeding, low lying, no pole (well maybe a tiny bit early). My HCG was 3500 if I remeber rightly. Thanks so much, any thoughts appreciated.

quackers, why are you convinced it's all over? at 5+6 they would not be able to see a heartbeat anyway. what is your estimate of pregnancy? did they do a blood test to check your hcg levels? a small amount of brown blood is not necessarily reason to worry. has the bleeding increased? i really hope you get good news at next week's scan. best wishes, bk.

sorry quackers, your second post had not appeared when i started doing mine.

dear quackers, so sorry you are going through this uncertainty. please please try to stay positive - you know that people experience bleeding in pregnancy and brown blood does not mean the end of it all. rest, and hopefully all will be well. we are all thinking of you

Quackers - I'm so sorry, this is going to be a bloody tough week. Each day forward though is good. My suggestion is to find as much as possible to keep you busy, books, films, mumsnet etc. I'm not medically orientated but reading what you've written it doesn't look all doom and gloom, more that a SCAN simply can't tell you one way or another. Mind you I would have made the same conclusions as you if only to protect myself from hoping. When I had my mc at 8 weeks they took a blood test to measure the hcg levels and then another 48 hours later. The levels had halved and from this they concluded that I had miscarried. Has this been offered to you? Its a much shorter timescale at least.

Take care of yourself.

quackers thinking of you too..i know its not easy but try not to worry.i am currently pregnant with no2(19wks)and in 1st trimester bled 3-4 times from about 6 weeks onwards.first couple of times it was brown spotting but the lsat time i bled quite heavy with bright red blood and clots.i too thought that was it(i also had bad backache)went to the epu and everything was fine.didnt give me an explanation for it but the first 3 times (spotting)they were about a month apart so im presuming it was like a period.
i hope evrything goes ok with you and guess what im tyring to say is you can bleed and it be ok.

Quackers - i too had brown blood quite frequently with one of my pregnancies but this didn't result in a miscarriage. I was however referred to the hospital straight away as brown blood can be linked to ectopic pregnancy and i had a scan the next day to check (it wasn't). If you are in pain then i would get some medical advice, don't feel like you're over-reacting at least this will put your mind at rest. I appreciate that if you're going to miscarry then there really is nothing you can do and no amount of resting will stop it but do try to take things easy, have a rest and try not to worry.

Thanks all. The first Doc wanted to recheck hormone levels 48 hrs later but the second who saw me after the scan said it won't make a diff, especially as my last one I carried for another 7 weeks with fairly normal hormone levels until m/c came about. The thing is I know I conceived on or about day13, which is fairly early, got LH day 11 and bd'd then. So I know my dates are correct, it's the only time we did it. I'll just have to stick it out. It;s desparate. So down and feel is so unfair to be put through all this uncertainty again. It's not quite the end I know but the outlook is fairly bleak from what they said.

Oh, Quackers, I'm so sorry to hear of the worrying time you are having. I'm another brown-blooder and I was told too that this is a less negative sign than "fresh" pink or red blood. I have no words to add to the others apart from that I'll really be thinking and praying for you over the next week and hoping that your doctor was being pessimistic with the best of intentions from his point of view.
Cyberhugs and fingers crossed. So understand the feeling of wondering why so much heartache and anxiety is being inflicted on you. How I wish it were different.

Oh Quackers .... I am so sorry to read that you are having this worry. I am sending lots of hugs all the way from NZ through cyber space {{{{{{}}}}}
I know how hard it is to stay positive but do try and be good to yourself over the next few days .....
Thinking of you ....
Love Ghosty xxxxx

Thankyou Marina, you said such lovely words, I'm crying. It's not the blleding now, it;s the plain and simple fact that there's no fetal pole. There was a beutifully formed sac but I could see clearly there was nothing in it. Surley even the 2mm that it probably is would be visble. I can't help but thinking I'm SO unlucky. I feel it is over and will have to try again at some point. My dad name's each baby after a golfer, the first was Sevi and this time Ernie. Funnily enough my DD was just caled Rosie. She was ok. God I agve her such a hug this evening. DH is gardening, yes it's late, but it's his escape. I feel so alone and don't know how to handle this immense stress I'm under.

Dear quackers, I'm so sorry to hear you're having such a worrying time. I can't think of anything else to say. Thinking of you.

quackers, i'm afraid i don't much about the fetal pole and when it's supposed to show up etc. i really hope that you know soon what's going on - and that everything will be all right!